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Ready4Action 27 Nov 2007 21:24:24 522 posts
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+1

I would have come on here and swore at you, but i think it is quite a valid question.

No, currently the wii has not lived up to my expectations, 3 games that i have thoroughly enjoyed so far, zelda, mario and metroid (havent played many others, this is my experience). All arent truly new, but i think the wii is all based on promise, just take a peek at next years games and you'll see what i mean.
Games like: BWii, Medal of honor 2, trauma center nb, brawl, kart, wiifit, z&w, no more heroes, de blob, nights, ghost squad, okami, cooking mama (dont judge me). all these games i would consider buying, and its a collection of games like these and the few that are out already, that got me to buy a wii.
Also, what are the competition doing to revolutionize games?

Telepathic.Geometry 27 Nov 2007 21:26:11 12,422 posts
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One other thing I think the Wii kinda promised was the notion that the exact coordinates and orientation of the wiimote were being recorded in 3D space, which lends itself to a lot of very interesting game ideas. Still, maybe the next Wii will address that issue.

Carlo 27 Nov 2007 21:26:53 21,801 posts
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Ready4Action wrote:
currently the wii has not lived up to my expectations

Great, YOU are disapointed. Lovely.

joeking 27 Nov 2007 21:29:41 1,808 posts
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Why do you have a such bee in your bonnet about this? He said "my expectations" didn't he?

Do you feel this indignant when somebody gives a poor mark to a film in the rate-a-film thread?

Or perhaps it's just that nobody's been critical of your favourite film just yet?

You seem completely dismissive of the concept of personal opinion.

Telepathic.Geometry 27 Nov 2007 21:31:20 12,422 posts
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Stop fighting and get on topic you cunts! /menaces with plank with a nail in it

famous_roy 27 Nov 2007 21:32:06 4,126 posts
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So far I'd say it has marginally lived upto it. TP is great imo despite what anyone says, but I've played far more VC and GC games than Wii so thats not so good. I'm getting both SMG and MP3 on Xmas day however. Ask me again then!

Telepathic.Geometry 27 Nov 2007 21:34:30 12,422 posts
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famous_roy wrote: I'm getting both SMG and MP3 on Xmas day however.

You lucky bastard, I'd love to not have played those games. ^_^

Khanivor 27 Nov 2007 21:40:01 44,800 posts
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joeking wrote:
You seem completely dismissive of the concept of personal opinion.

IRONOMAN WONDERS HOW MUCH LONGER THE CHARADE CAN LAST

Ready4Action 27 Nov 2007 21:40:16 522 posts
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if your honest, the games havent been so revolutionary, the best is yet to come thats all im saying. The games are still great. Mario, Metroid and Zelda are all fantastic.

Oh, and:

Great, YOU are disapointed. Lovely.

can i not have my own opinion or do i have to conform to everyone elses?

freaxgamer 27 Nov 2007 21:45:29 1,604 posts
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Well, I work at comet, and we had a delivery (last friday) of 150 Wii Consoles. We where sold out by saturday afternoon....

They are the hottest thing this xmas

Derblington 27 Nov 2007 21:46:24 35,161 posts
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Telepathic.Geometry wrote:
There have been sword games, but I think it's fair to say that none of them has delivered yet. There's so much potential there for a great sword game...

Not with the current hardware, as far as I understand it. There will be more sword games, I'm sure, but to make accurate movements, effortlessly, you need the pointer to be on screen, as the motion sensing gubbins aren't accurate enough. Basically with the pointer they can replicate all sorts of good things that the sensing stuff can't manage on it's own. Which is why games like Mario and Zelda are almost flawless, control wise - you have a little blue mark whizzing around the screen at all times that is helping to send data... Gamers dont' see that though, caught up with just waving the 'mote about.

Maybe someone who has actually coded something for the wii could elaborate but that's how it was explained to me. It may be total shite...

Deleted user 27 November 2007 21:48:12

It's certainly not lived up to my expectations. I think it still has a chance given it's not all pathetic shovelware coming out now.

BanjoMan 27 Nov 2007 21:48:52 13,692 posts
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joeking wrote:
And I don't mean the promise of attracting a new audience (which I don't think has happened as much as some will claim, but that's not really the point here).

I'm talking about gaming promise. We were promised unchecked innovation. A seismic paradigm shift in the genre. New ideas!

But so far, one year in, and the reality of the Wii is that its biggest games are...a Mario platformer, a Metroid shooter, a Zelda adventure game, a remake of Resi 4 and a Paper Mario RPG. Which, aside from a different method of control, all fall very much into the category of same old, same old.

I suppose you could point to Wii Sports. But again, it was a launch game, and nothing similarly fresh has followed it since.

Personally I think the Wii has completely failed to live up to Nintendo's pre-launch hype. No doubt it's a competent games console with some good games, but that's where it ends really.

So fuck off and play a different console.

My Wii's great, thanks. Yours is obviously shit because it's being operated by a fuckwit.

Deleted user 27 November 2007 21:49:58

BanjoMan wrote:
My Wii's great, thanks. Yours is obviously shit because it's being operated by a fuckwit.

Deleted user 27 November 2007 21:50:06

WOPR wrote:
I still feel zero desire to own a Wii. I see it as a gimmick, nothing more nothing less. And the DS has been a disaster this year, and I love that little handheld

Is joe rubbing off on you (matron!)?

famous_roy 27 Nov 2007 21:50:36 4,126 posts
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Telepathic.Geometry wrote:

famous_roy wrote: I'm getting both SMG and MP3 on Xmas day however.
You lucky bastard, I'd love to not have played those games. ^_^

I think receiving both on the same day is sure to have some sort of repercussion, maybe an eyeball will simply roll out from contentment. Still, I can't wait!

Khanivor 27 Nov 2007 21:52:54 44,800 posts
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BanjoMan wrote:

My Wii's great, thanks. Yours is obviously shit because it's being operated by a fuckwit.

ROFLCOPTORZ

famous_roy 27 Nov 2007 21:56:32 4,126 posts
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WOPR wrote:
And the DS has been a disaster this year, and I love that little handheld

ZeldaHotelDuskCastlevaniaLunarknightsMorebraintraining.

SIT DOWN!

Deleted user 27 November 2007 22:02:08

Joe not sure what you were tying to get at here to be completely honest but:

1. Wii was originally called the Revolution on the basis of the controller. I think you only have to play Wii Sports to see how great it can be. Admitedly it is not utilised fully in all games, but that is expected, I would sugguest over the next year things will get a lot better, as developers get to grips fully with it.

2. The games themselves are both good and bad, nothing new there really, I am sure of the thousands of PS2 games only a handful could really be considered "decent". I am sure if you polled a 100 people nearly all would mention the same few games.

3. The graphics, well we all knew what they would look like prior to release, it is not as if Nintendo promised to blow your socks of with graphics, but then they are not the all important feature are tye, I want to "play" a game not "watch" it.

Anyway the Wii has lived to its promises to a degree but it will take more than a year for them to be fully realised.

joeking 27 Nov 2007 22:06:58 1,808 posts
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Well points 2 and 3 I never really raised, but point 1 is fair comment. Wii Sports is a good example, and I think I gave it its due in the OP, but you yourself are quick to go future tense after that and that's my point is it not? So far the Wii has been far from the revolution it was purpoted it would be, imo. But that may change, of course. All we can do is wait and see.

Telepathic.Geometry 27 Nov 2007 22:12:33 12,422 posts
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No need to wait and see. It's already produced games impossible on other consoles. Good games too. And it's brought non-gamers into the fold. That's pretty much what Nintendo promised, and in that respect, they've pretty much delivered. Wouldn't you agree?

Deleted user 27 November 2007 22:12:46

But do you not think it is too soon to judge. We all know the Wii has taken developers by suprise somewhat with it's success, so to not live up to it's promise early in its lifespan is somewhat to be expected.

The same things you have said could well be aimed at the PS3 as well, but broken promises by Sony are 10 a penny so they need not be mentioned.

Telepathic.Geometry 27 Nov 2007 22:14:23 12,422 posts
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@joeking: Just so's we're all clear, what did Nintendo actually promise?

joeking 27 Nov 2007 22:14:47 1,808 posts
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prawnking wrote:
But do you not think it is too soon to judge. We all know the Wii has taken developers by suprise somewhat with it's success, so to not live up to it's promise early in its lifespan is somewhat to be expected.

I can see your point where concerns 3rd parties, but the likes of Maio, Metroid, etc, Nintendo games haven't exactly pushed the boat out a million miles, and Nintendo themselves surely can't have been taken by surprise by the controller.

joeking 27 Nov 2007 22:15:47 1,808 posts
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Telepathic.Geometry wrote:
@joeking: Just so's we're all clear, what did Nintendo actually promise?

I've been over that already. I don't mean to be smart, really I don't, but it's probably best that you read over the thread again to see my answer to your question.

Ready4Action 27 Nov 2007 22:17:23 522 posts
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Nintendo games haven't exactly pushed the boat out a million miles

endless ocean did
*chortle*

Deleted user 27 November 2007 22:19:08

I don't recall them "pushing the boat out" initially with the DS either, why push the boat out and fuck it up. I would be optimistic and suggest Nintendo have some grand ideas which will come out somewhere along the line, but only when they are confident they can do them justice.

silentbob 27 Nov 2007 22:20:14 29,527 posts
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I just ate an awesome cookie. This glass of cold milk is a treat too.

joeking 27 Nov 2007 22:21:58 1,808 posts
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prawnking wrote:
I don't recall them "pushing the boat out" initially with the DS either, why push the boat out and fuck it up. I would be optimistic and suggest Nintendo have some grand ideas which will come out somewhere along the line, but only when they are confident they can do them justice.

I agree with that, and the potential is certainly there. But the question of the thread is entirely present and past tense and presumes nothing of the long term future. Who knows what it holds in store until the time comes and the evidence presents itself?

Lukus 27 Nov 2007 22:22:32 24,640 posts
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Telepathic.Geometry wrote:
No need to wait and see. It's already produced games impossible on other consoles. Good games too. And it's brought non-gamers into the fold. That's pretty much what Nintendo promised, and in that respect, they've pretty much delivered. Wouldn't you agree?

I'm not being intentionally argumentative here, but which games are impossible on other consoles? There's nothing that couldn't be reproduced on other consoles as far as I'm aware. Yeah the control systems would have to be seriously rethought in some cases, but is wibbling your arms around really that much more fun?

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