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Rapidshare is working for me now. @iHAZaCHEEZ3burger: Absolutely no problems with live or PSN, wireless or wired. Easiest way to set up live is to give the 360 a static IP then put it in the routers DMZ. So far PSN has worked without any configuration to the router. |
Sky Broadband - worth it? • Page 5
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Vice.Destroyer 7,437 posts
Seen 15 hours ago
Registered 15 years agoThanks for the clarification, Spectral. Thankfully I knew that already, but I am sure that iHazablabla will find that info useful.
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Vice.Destroyer wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, Spectral. Thankfully I knew that already, but I am sure that iHazablabla will find that info useful.
yeah sorry, thats who I meant to aim it at. Just grabbed the wrong name copy and pasting. I should pay more attention. I've corrected it now. -
I had nothing but problems with Sky Broadband.
I got a maximum of 1.7gb with them, and they kept telling me that my line couldn't take anymore (even though my friend literally across the road got 3.2gb on AOL). I got drop outs, sometimes I couldn't connect for 30-45 minutes. There customer service used to take 45-60 minutes to answer, and then you'd get somebody completely thick speaking to you.
I switched to O2, I now get between 2.6gb and 3.2gb depending on the time of day, I experience about one or two drop outs a day (and they last for about 5-10 seconds, and I think is actually more a router/PC problem as when the PC loses connection, the X360 doesn't). Customer Service is much better.
On the flip side though, O2's router is a pile of wank, and getting it working with the 360 and PS3 was not fun at all. Sky'd router is infinitely better. -
Were you on one of skys LLU bundles or sky connect? I'm on the max LLU bundle and its been great. Drop outs are weeks/months apart and get a consistant 6.8ishMbit download speed. -
No the LLU bundle. I gave them about 10 months to sort it. Wrote them letters, emails, regular phone calls, they just kept telling me that was all I could get, which was rubbish as the other guy five doors up also got much higher (about 2.8gb he got from memory). It was just that they couldn't be bothered to sort it.
One of the 'techies' I had told me not to connect my PC to my router while the router was still booting up 'as it fills the router with bad code which can never be deleted. Each piece of code will make your connection get slower' and 'that is why your connection is slow, because you shouldn't plug the wire in until all of the lights have come on.' -
Sounds like you were extremely unlucky. My speed dropped to 4Mbit once and stayed there. I phoned them up and said my speed had got stuck, 2 mins later my router resynced and I was back to full speed. -
TheSaint 20,950 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThat writing code to the router sounds like rubbish to me. Chances are Sky had a lot of customers on your exchange so you had slower speeds, your new ISP is probably has more capacity so you're seeing your maximum speed. -
Yeah, that part was complete BS. I'd be down to sub 56k speeds now if that was true. I turn the router off most nights. -
It is total bullshit. What can happen is that if you continually drop the connection, Sky (or any BB provider) will assume that you're dropping packets of information and therefore will limit your speed accordingly until your connection restablises. I asked them to remove all restrictions on my line, but they kept telling me that 'they can't impose restrictions on lines'.
Essentially them employ a bunch of fucking idiots, and you just have to get lucky that you get someone who knows what they are talking about on the other end of the phone. I guess I phoned about 12 times, and I never got one person who knew more than me (which is only about 20% probably), even though I asked to be put through to the next tier support (always refused).
O2 have been more accomodating. I've had a couple of issues, but nothing major, and the service has always been really good. That said, as I mentioned earlier, the O2 router really is a pile of shit. -
Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years agoTheSaint wrote:
That writing code to the router sounds like rubbish to me. Chances are Sky had a lot of customers on your exchange so you had slower speeds, your new ISP is probably has more capacity so you're seeing your maximum speed.
Indeed, complete hogwash imo -
Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years agoSpectral wrote:
Yeah, that part was complete BS. I'd be down to sub 56k speeds now if that was true. I turn the router off most nights.
That'll might be why your speed varies, not sure how long is needed for a line synch.... -
My router only ever goes on when I need it, has been like that for the past 12 months. I never leave it on all the time. I did for a while (when I first got it) but haven't since. Only when O2 advised me that I needed it on full time for the first 10 days of swapping so they could synch my line, after that I was free to turn it on and off when I felt like it. -
Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years agoEver had any problems if you've left it off for a few weeks at a time? Mind you, there's not much difference, or not one you'd notice, for most connections. -
Never. O2 actually advise you, by text, if they're going to do a resynch. But they only do that if they detect a problem (repeatedly failing is a problem, not connecting isn't). Essentially they look for a lot of 'on and off' activity, if it's just off, they don't do anything.
They texted me when there was work happening in the main road near the exchange. Nothing to do with them at all, it was gas works, but they texted me (and emailed) to say that I might not be able to get connected in 48 hours for a few hours while the work was happening, as they had been advised by the local council that all lines in the area may go down. Nobody else I know got a text or communication like that (AOL, Sky, TalkTalk and BT are the ones my friends have). -
Dougs wrote:
Spectral wrote:
Yeah, that part was complete BS. I'd be down to sub 56k speeds now if that was true. I turn the router off most nights.
That'll might be why your speed varies, not sure how long is needed for a line synch....
The LLU profiling is not the same as BT's. It doesn't lock it to a maximum speed, it just negotiates as fast a connection as it can within a specified noise margin. However my profile glitched and the noise margin was set higher than it should be. I phoned and they reset it, been ok since.
Edit: Unless you meant for the first 10 days then yeah I left it on for those as advised. After which its safe to turn the router off as much as you like. It can vary my a few Kb each time it reconnects but only minor fluctuations depending on the noise margin at the time. -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
Seen 18 hours ago
Registered 16 years agoSo i joined up with O2 last week (not the LLU service, Home access) and i managed to speedtest at 3.6MBps this morning 8 or 9 times, but all weekend and evenings since i joined i've been at 0.5MBps.
O2 sold me the same story they sold you, they said i need to give it 10 days for the syncing or whatever, but i dont want to be stuck in my contract, should i quit within the 14 days and move to sky? i dont think i can get the sky LLU service either. -
If you cant get LLU don't even consider sky. The sky connect package is abysmal. Put your post code into the Sam Knows postcode checker. It'll tell you what if any providers are available on your exchange. A lot of the non LLU services offered by providers of LLU services are capped at "peak" times. I know sky connect is, pretty sure the O2 one is too which would explain your drops in speed. -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
Seen 18 hours ago
Registered 16 years agoGah that site is bollocks
here is my exchange
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/LNPOP
i should be able to get both Sky and O2 LLU but both of them say i can't get it because my exchange is not unbundled. could it be due to the wiring in my block of flats or something? -
Nope the exchange will be miles from your property, where they have their equipment. Try phoning and telling them you've checked and the exchange you connect too is unbundled. It could just be an error on their system saying you're not. All the techies on the thinkbroadband forums go off the sam knows database, I've never heard of it being wrong. Could be worth asking about it on there tbh. One possibility is that they have unbundled the exchange but there is no capacity left for new customers. -
Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years agoSamKnows is a wicked resource. Only thing I can think of is O2 must traffic shape and throttle their non LLU customers. -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI emailed O2 and they confirmed that my exchange is not unbundled for O2, stupidly i assumed Home Access would be fine and went for that.
The Orange website seems to think i can get "superfast" broadband, and orange only supported LLU on this exchange since january.
I'll try them to be honest i'm hearing a lot of throttling stories on the internet re: o2 home access and i want out before i'm trapped for a year... -
BinaryBob101 27,756 posts
Seen 7 hours ago
Registered 12 years agoTheSaint wrote:
DDevil wrote:
My Sky broadband is working again.gif)
Name a few sites TheSaint... I'll look myself.
Are you able to access rapidshare?
I can access rapidshare just fine. I've had no trouble accessing any sites. Are you guys on the Max package?
I can't post Trace route though, DDevil. -
Fixxxer 1,386 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI'm on unlimited and my rapidshare was off for the last few days.
Back now mind. -
Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years agoTHFourteen wrote:
I emailed O2 and they confirmed that my exchange is not unbundled for O2, stupidly i assumed Home Access would be fine and went for that.
The Orange website seems to think i can get "superfast" broadband, and orange only supported LLU on this exchange since january.
I'll try them to be honest i'm hearing a lot of throttling stories on the internet re: o2 home access and i want out before i'm trapped for a year...
So weird, not know SamKnows to be wrong like that. Might be worth dashing them an email, telling them O2 have told you it's not unbundled, see what they say. As Spectral says, might be a capacity issue and they're fobbing you off. Sky def not unbundled either?
Not had ORange personally, BillysBones did - might want to ask him. What about one of the smaller ISPs. They tend to rate better, more expensive but you get what you pay for. AAISP always gets good reviews, as do Zen and Entanet. -
TheSaint 20,950 posts
Seen 17 hours ago
Registered 16 years agoOrange use traffic shaping as well especially during peak times. I would think your better off sticking with o2 and hope that they unbundle your exchange soon. -
Yep, rapidshare is back... I too am on unlimited. How weird.
Oh and I PMed craigy about the trace route thing. Let's see if I get a response -
THFourteen 54,987 posts
Seen 18 hours ago
Registered 16 years agoTheSaint wrote:
Orange use traffic shaping as well especially during peak times. I would think your better off sticking with o2 and hope that they unbundle your exchange soon.
According to Orange i think i can get onto their LLU
the issue with sky and o2 seems to be capacity as someone up there mentioned, the exchanges are definitely unbundled -
TheSaint 20,950 posts
Seen 17 hours ago
Registered 16 years agoMy advice would be to stay away from Orange LLU, their IPStream product on the other hand is fine if a little heavily traffic shaped.
You might find that o2 will add some capacity at your exchange in the future and migrate you over. It is tough choosing and ISP at the moment as nobody really stands out.
Also in fairness to Sky I was getting very pissed off at my connection continually dropping yesterday but it turns out that I had somehow plugged the filter into an extension rather than the actual phone socket, after doing some decorating at the weekend. So it was all my own fault.
Those sites that were blocked yesterday also seem to be back up now. -
Filters should be on all sockets, extensions included! Not having one on the main would knacker it though!
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