International 'nutter runs amok' shootings thread (inspired by America) Page 486

  • smoothpete 5 Aug 2019 15:30:26 36,013 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    The little potato guy.
    actually proper loled at that
  • Fake_Blood 5 Aug 2019 15:34:46 9,730 posts
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    Apparently videogames are to blame again. Not the hundreds millions of guns, but videogames.
  • PazJohnMitch 5 Aug 2019 15:48:43 14,720 posts
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    Gang Beasts implicated in Tate Modern incident.
  • Dirtbox 5 Aug 2019 20:46:59 91,192 posts
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    From my experience, the shooting stuff is down to a relatively small combination of uniquely American issues.

    It is extremely easy to feel isolated here due to the nature of the way the population is spread so thinly across a wide area. Very few of these shooters seem to come from highly populated areas. There is nowhere for them to go. You can't drink if you drive, you can't drink until you're 21, and you can't get a $150 uber 40 miles there and back, there is no public transport, so you're simply not going out much.

    These kids can't get a job outside of retail for love nor money, and there is no better way to witness society at it's worst. People can be appalling the second any amount money is involved.

    Which leaves the internet, and it's simple to fall into a pocket of extremist views held by people who are also bitter about their lot in life, it's easy to blame people you have no affiliation with and are ignorant of and there are echo chambers everywhere where those sentiments fester, and desperation reaches a point where someone is going to take action.

    Then there are shooters who are vaunted as heroes in those echo chambers. They're glamourised and it's the only place where possibly like minded people have the opportunity to feel any worth.

    And then there's guns. Everywhere. I could buy an arsenal of weaponry on a whim. Anyone can.

    But of course, it's a mental health issue, it's video games, it's everything but the glaring, but easily repairable issues with the way America has been shaped by previous generations and the memes and company lines defending guns with incomprehensibly broken logic direct from the arms manufacturers think tanks for hire who know how to bang the patriotism and freedom drum to keep guns accessible for all.

    So there it is, the perfect storm.
  • PazJohnMitch 5 Aug 2019 20:55:16 14,720 posts
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    Well said
  • up_the_ante 5 Aug 2019 22:40:55 1,120 posts
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    PazJohnMitch wrote:
    Gang Beasts implicated in Tate Modern incident.
    I had no idea what Gang Beasts was so watched a gameplay trailer. I can see the connection.
  • sirtacos 5 Aug 2019 23:35:08 8,187 posts
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    All mass shootings in history are actually directly attributable to Bad Rats the video-game
  • Khanivor 6 Aug 2019 04:31:35 44,110 posts
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    Tuffty wrote:
    @senso-ji Oh and delete any tweets using language that the shooter had used in his manifesto, as Trump has done removing tweets where he called immigrants an invasion. https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1158098956955672576?s=19
    That’s illegal. It’s official record. It is flagrantly illegal to delete them.

    That’s an incredibly stupid move. So stupid not just because it’s illegal but pointless in so far as making them disappear. Only Trump is stupid and ignorant enough to do the. The court case this will generate will come back to thaw a chunk out of his fat ass.
  • Mola_Ram 6 Aug 2019 04:35:24 21,494 posts
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    They'll be archived somewhere at any rate. It's probably illegal to delete them (not that that's ever stopped him before), but somebody will have saved them.
  • Khanivor 6 Aug 2019 04:36:44 44,110 posts
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    This could be massive.

    He’s proper fucked himself.

    His own DoJ says his tweets are official statements.

    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/government_says_trumps_tweets_are_official_presidential_statements

    They are official records. It’s against the law to delete official records.

    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/government_says_trumps_tweets_are_official_presidential_statements
  • Mola_Ram 6 Aug 2019 04:40:20 21,494 posts
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    But the question is, do enough people care about proper recordkeeping practice to make a big deal out of this? I hope the answer is yes (I have background in archiving and recordkeeping, and it's something that people *should* pay more attention to), but I think the answer is no.
  • Dirtbox 6 Aug 2019 05:00:18 91,192 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    They'll be archived somewhere at any rate. It's probably illegal to delete them (not that that's ever stopped him before), but somebody will have saved them.
    http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/archive
  • Deleted user 6 August 2019 05:05:21
    @Khanivor sadly no one who matters enough will care. There will be some talk about it over the coming days perhaps and tutting, but the red necks won’t care so the Republicans won’t care, so nothing will happen. Trump is bulletproof because his party are all self serving wimps now Mcain is gone.
  • Dirtbox 6 Aug 2019 05:10:28 91,192 posts
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    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tweets-invaders-deleted/
  • Mola_Ram 6 Aug 2019 06:43:44 21,494 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Mola_Ram wrote:
    They'll be archived somewhere at any rate. It's probably illegal to delete them (not that that's ever stopped him before), but somebody will have saved them.
    http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/archive
    Cheers, I thought something like that would be around.
  • Tonka 6 Aug 2019 08:12:52 29,827 posts
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    On the topic of Trump's culpability

    Johnson was prescient, though only up to a point. He expected right-wing militancy to escalate throughout Barack Obama’s administration, but to subside if a Republican followed him. Ordinarily, the far-right turns to terrorism when it feels powerless; the Oklahoma City bombing happened during Bill Clinton’s presidency, and all assassinations of abortion providers in the United States have taken place during Democratic administrations. During Republican presidencies, paranoid right-wing demagogy tends to recede, and with it, right-wing violence.

    But that pattern doesn’t hold when the president himself is a paranoid right-wing demagogue.

    “The fact that they’re still operating at a high level during a Republican administration goes against all the trending I’ve seen in 40 years,” Johnson told me. Donald Trump has kept the far right excited and agitated. “He is basically the fuel that’s been poured onto a fire,” said Johnson.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/opinion/trump-white-supremacy.html
  • Salaman 6 Aug 2019 15:51:52 23,697 posts
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    Mike Huckabee ladies and gentlemen:

    https://www.mikehuckabee.com/latest-news?id=85D68B53-7B1C-4AC2-91B1-6E004ACFC6AE

    Despite all those who are denouncing the idea of prayers for the victims (do a Google search for “Thoughts and prayers are not enough” and see how many hits you get), I will continue to pray for the victims and their families and for an end to this mindless violence, and I hope you will, too. In fact, amid all the finger-pointing and blame-laying and repulsive attempts to turn these tragedies to political advantage before the bodies are even cold, I would posit that the lack of thought and prayers is probably the single biggest factor in what is behind them.
  • JamboWayOh 6 Aug 2019 16:14:23 15,074 posts
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    It's always interesting to see where children learn the ability to be lying, hypocritical cunts. Sarah learnt her craft well.
  • nudistpete 6 Aug 2019 16:28:17 896 posts
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    OK BOYS GET PRAYIN' AND THINKIN' MORE TO STOP PEOPLE DYIN'

    1 Thought + Prayer = 1 less dead
  • PazJohnMitch 6 Aug 2019 18:30:26 14,720 posts
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    Waiting for part 2 where the word "Christian" is used 10 times.
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 6 Aug 2019 19:06:40 6,533 posts
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    Do prayers still count if they're to Great Lord Cthulhu?

    Or Khorne the Blood God?
  • MrFlay 6 Aug 2019 19:46:32 4,228 posts
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    Rogueywon wrote:
    Do prayers still count if they're to Great Lord Cthulhu?

    Or Khorne the Blood God?
    They're the only ones that do count. Hail Cthulhu.
  • TechnoHippy 7 Aug 2019 14:44:25 15,436 posts
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    #NoLivesMatter
  • Baihu1983 9 Aug 2019 15:04:50 11,670 posts
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    Almost had another

    https://www.kvia.com/crime/armed-man-driving-trump-truck-detained-outside-el-paso-migrant-shelter/1107247805
  • DJCopa 9 Aug 2019 15:13:11 2,027 posts
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    The graphic on the back of the truck - Rambo but with Trump's face.
  • Baihu1983 9 Aug 2019 15:25:00 11,670 posts
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    Clearly video games are to blame
  • Salaman 9 Aug 2019 15:29:33 23,697 posts
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    Not sure what the plan was here:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-body-armor-armed-rifle-sparks-panic-missouri-walmart-n1040676

    Meanwhile in NYC:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2019/aug/07/panic-in-times-square-after-motorcycle-backfire-mistaken-for-gunfire-video
  • drhickman1983 9 Aug 2019 15:46:22 6,075 posts
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    It's slightly awful that I just took comfort in the fact, despite our country going to shit, at least the chance of being victim to mass shooting is negligible compared to if I lived in the States.
  • Graxlar_v3 9 Aug 2019 16:11:40 7,937 posts
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    Turns out people open carrying assult rifles is not the best idea.
  • JamboWayOh 10 Aug 2019 23:19:34 15,074 posts
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/10/update-1-one-person-injured-in-shooting-at-norway-mosque-suspect-in-custody

    Yep all that fuss over white supremacy, it's just one big hoax.
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