International 'nutter runs amok' shootings thread (inspired by America) Page 7

  • dnbuk 5 Aug 2009 05:25:49 5,011 posts
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    As many as five people have been killed after a gunman opened fire on a dance class in a US gym, according to reports.

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Pittsburgh-Gym-Shooting-At-Least-Five-Dead-As-Gunman-Reportedly-Shoots-At-Pennsylvania-Dance-Class/Article/200908115354373?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15354373_Pittsburgh_Gym_Shooting%3A_At_Least_Five_Dead_As_Gunman_Reportedly_Shoots_At_Pennsylvania_Dance_Class
  • dnbuk 5 Aug 2009 16:16:27 5,011 posts
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    dnbuk wrote:
    As many as five people have been killed after a gunman opened fire on a dance class in a US gym, according to reports.

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Pittsburgh-Gym-Shooting-At-Least-Five-Dead-As-Gunman-Reportedly-Shoots-At-Pennsylvania-Dance-Class/Article/200908115354373?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15354373_Pittsburgh_Gym_Shooting%3A_At_Least_Five_Dead_As_Gunman_Reportedly_Shoots_At_Pennsylvania_Dance_Class

    http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm

    The guys blog, pretty scary.
  • caligari 5 Aug 2009 17:41:18 17,956 posts
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    dnbuk wrote:

    http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm

    The guys blog, pretty scary.

    What is this emo shit?
  • localnotail 5 Aug 2009 17:46:55 23,079 posts
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    it's down now but bits of it remain elsewhere

    August 3:

    “Total effort needed. Tomorrow is the big day. Unfortunately I talked to my neighbor today, who is very positive and upbeat. I need to remain focused and absorbed COMPLETELY.

    “Last time I tried this, in January, I chickened out.”

    George Sodini says the reason for his diary is that “maybe all this will shed insight on why some people just cannot make things happen in their life, which can potentially benefit others.”

    “Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell.

    “I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them.”

    He was even in Santa Monica, photographing Ocean Avenue at Wilshire Boulevard. George Sodini calls his mother “Central Boss”:

    “Don’t piss her off or she will be mad and vindictive for years. “

    On Monday Sodini finally writes the following:

    “The biggest problem of all is not having relationships or friends, but not being able to achieve and acquire what I desire in those or many other areas.

    “Everything stays the same regardless of the effert (sic) I put in. If I had control over my life then I would be happier. But for about the past 30 years, I have not.”


    this is why guns are bad, m'kay. It's a lot harder to be "in control" with a knife.
  • Deleted user 5 August 2009 19:07:31
    caligari wrote:
    dnbuk wrote:

    http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm

    The guys blog, pretty scary.

    What is this emo shit?

    He didn't have sex for 20 of your mortal earth years. Any man put in his position would want to kill something.

    As jerry sadovich once put it so woman could understand a mans sexual needs. "For a man having sex is like bursting for a piss and having to negotiate with a toilet"
  • Deleted user 5 August 2009 20:38:22
    Brasseye gets it spot on again
  • FWB 5 Aug 2009 23:00:21 56,369 posts
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    Why is it that gun enthusiasts are always nationalists too?
  • localnotail 5 Aug 2009 23:11:49 23,079 posts
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    FWB wrote:
    Why is it that gun enthusiasts are always nationalists too?


    because they need cold dead hearts to provide them with cold dead hands?
  • senso-ji 5 Nov 2009 22:05:49 10,271 posts
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    Some soldiers seem to have gone berserk at the biggest army base in the US.
  • dnbuk 5 Nov 2009 22:15:16 5,011 posts
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    President Barack Obama described it as "a horrific outburst of violence".

    Oh the irony.
  • Khanivor 5 Nov 2009 22:15:55 44,800 posts
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    Kinda puts paid to the ntion that an armed population will quickly stop a killing spree with their own weapons.

    I have a nasty feeling the effects of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the lack of care for brain and mental trauma will eclipse the shame felt over the treatment of Vietnam vets.
  • Fixxxer 5 Nov 2009 22:35:02 1,386 posts
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    This international nutter will kill us all!
  • Deleted user 5 November 2009 22:36:09
    Well I'd argue you are wrong there, because the now more confirmed reports than the initial ones are saying the first gunman was killed within seconds of opening fire by base security, there seems to be a second set of gunmen involved with no info on exactly what has happened to them. Another factor here is that it looks likely those involved have knowledge of the base, so not a fair comparison for what an armed population can do to effect this type of crime.

    Fact is that if a gunman goes shooting in a shopping mall in the USA there is a good chance someone there has a weapon and could use it. In the UK there is next to no chance, and the first people on scene with any kind of weapon of any use will have to be specialist officers, of which there is a limited number.

    Fact is we already have an armed population in the UK, they're largely made up of the people who do not hold any respect for the law and obtained the weapons illegally, and who will use them for motives other than defence. Not quite sure why any sane person would argue against legal gun ownership given the number of illegal gun owners in the UK.
  • FWB 5 Nov 2009 22:39:08 56,369 posts
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    You're right. All those wild tigers and boars roaming the streets, ripping poor pensioners to death.
  • Stickman 5 Nov 2009 22:46:48 29,986 posts
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    The army has named the gunman as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

    This is going to play well.
  • dnbuk 5 Nov 2009 22:50:58 5,011 posts
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    Stickman wrote:
    The army has named the gunman as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

    This is going to play well.

    Was just about to post something similar. Muslim convert kills American soldiers, the media has a hard on already.
  • Milk 5 Nov 2009 22:51:15 2,253 posts
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    Stickman wrote:
    The army has named the gunman as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

    This is going to play well.

    Yep, this is going to be messy . . .
  • Khanivor 5 Nov 2009 22:52:55 44,800 posts
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    Shit, I've missed this evenings glen beck show.
  • Deleted user 5 November 2009 22:57:43
    EverAfter wrote:
    Well I'd argue you are wrong there, because the now more confirmed reports than the initial ones are saying the first gunman was killed within seconds of opening fire by base security, there seems to be a second set of gunmen involved with no info on exactly what has happened to them. Another factor here is that it looks likely those involved have knowledge of the base, so not a fair comparison for what an armed population can do to effect this type of crime.

    Fact is that if a gunman goes shooting in a shopping mall in the USA there is a good chance someone there has a weapon and could use it. In the UK there is next to no chance, and the first people on scene with any kind of weapon of any use will have to be specialist officers, of which there is a limited number.

    Fact is we already have an armed population in the UK, they're largely made up of the people who do not hold any respect for the law and obtained the weapons illegally, and who will use them for motives other than defence. Not quite sure why any sane person would argue against legal gun ownership given the number of illegal gun owners in the UK.

    .....
  • Dirtbox 5 Nov 2009 23:01:59 92,595 posts
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    :(
  • senso-ji 5 Nov 2009 23:03:17 10,271 posts
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    Milk wrote:
    Stickman wrote:
    The army has named the gunman as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

    This is going to play well.

    Yep, this is going to be messy . . .

    Well, as the base is near Waco, first thing I thought was it might have been done by those crazy anti-illuminati/new world order people wanting revenge on Ruby Ridge. But on the radio just now, someone was on talking about how constant service in Iraq and Afghanistan effects a soldier's mental state, and how the pressures of war drive people over the edge.
  • Khanivor 5 Nov 2009 23:06:08 44,800 posts
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    EverAfter wrote:
    Well I'd argue you are wrong there, because the now more confirmed reports than the initial ones are saying the first gunman was killed within seconds of opening fire by base security, there seems to be a second set of gunmen involved with no info on exactly what has happened to them. Another factor here is that it looks likely those involved have knowledge of the base, so not a fair comparison for what an armed population can do to effect this type of crime.

    Actually, seems so far to be one shooter, who managed to shoot 43 people before being shot himself.

    Of course, it's a developing story, so we will have to see what information is released. No doubt base command has gone into full cover-your-ass mode.
  • Retroid Moderator 5 Nov 2009 23:06:26 45,464 posts
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    EverAfter wrote:
    Not quite sure why any sane person would argue against legal gun ownership given the number of illegal gun owners in the UK.
    Because it would be fucking retarded?

    [link=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/britain-records-18-fall-in-gun-deaths-1232069.html">42 gun-related deaths in the UK in 2008,
  • FWB 5 Nov 2009 23:09:32 56,369 posts
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    S.Africa and Colombia's stats are huge. I knew they were big, but didn't realise that big.
  • Khanivor 5 Nov 2009 23:11:25 44,800 posts
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    Well that does ignore the developing nations which put the US to shame. It also ignores that there are other countries which have gun ownership which don't approach the US' gun homicide rate. Obviously there is more at play in the US than just the ownership of guns.
  • PearOfAnguish 5 Nov 2009 23:13:47 7,573 posts
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    EverAfter must live in constant fear of that massive gun owning population. You see them all the time, hanging out on street corners waving their Uzi's, firing wildly into the air in celebration. It's awful. What we need is for every man, woman and child to be given a gun. That'll cut down on gun crime for sure.
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