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TheBear 7 Mar 2008 09:23:13 4,763 posts
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When gaming goes dull

Pirotic Moderator 7 Mar 2008 10:14:57 20,644 posts
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Der_tolle_Emil wrote:
I don't think that it's even that complicated. Basically all Nintendo has to do is generate a checksum of the freeloader executable and update the firmware so that it refuses to load discs that match this certain checksum.

I'm sure the wii owners will love the fact it'll take 5 minutes when you insert the disk to get all the data off it and generate that checksum before it allows them to play it

or are we just talking about the elf? because it could just be using a boot-up from an existing game in order to bypass the signiture validation, totally illegal but i can't think how else they are booting up an unsigned executable.

One thing I know from the dev kits is that the font sets are different for each console region, so even if it unloads itself from memory I can't imagine it's that hard to have the software itself check what fonts are available on that machine and deduct what region it is even if the region code has been changed. This also asks the question, how are they going to get all the japanese games to work when half the fonts are not even available on the pal machines

johnlenham 7 Mar 2008 10:35:37 4,000 posts
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Dont give a rats ass how long it takes personaly
5mins >>>> 4 months

But they have had a good 14months to come up with something. Only 3 more days till SSBM!

Der_tolle_Emil 7 Mar 2008 11:59:30 7,308 posts
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Yeah I was just thinking about the elf.

Oh, and you don't have to get unsigned core to run anymore. There are already tools out there to sign an image again after modifying it. The interesting part is if that would be legal or not.

You are right about the fonts though. Maybe the freeloader does offer those fonts. I have no idea if the software is allowed to write in those memory areas though. It would explain though why some of the japanese games simply don't work on PAL machines using modchips when you simply change the game's region.

funkstar 7 Mar 2008 16:14:09 3,280 posts
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k so mine is on the way from gameseek.co.uk now

i figured i'd order there as well and cancel whichever took longer, so my codejunkies order is now cancelled... i'll let you know how it works as soon as it arrives, but that will probably be midway through next week

at least its on its way though!

Der_tolle_Emil 7 Mar 2008 16:33:55 7,308 posts
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Hm, I might just to the same. Shipping costs are not as high when ordering from gameseek.co.uk as well. I might just switch my order when I get home.

johnlenham 7 Mar 2008 17:44:16 4,000 posts
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aye might have to change mine to gameseek >_>

TheBear 7 Mar 2008 17:49:16 4,763 posts
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Same here, come on datel, pull yer finger oot.

johnlenham 7 Mar 2008 17:52:24 4,000 posts
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Well just did so meh to Datel.
I assume to cancel it its tick the box and press return as i went through that process and it seems to have worked but no confermation from datel or anything.

Der_tolle_Emil 7 Mar 2008 18:03:49 7,308 posts
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NatAttack wrote:
What is this elf?

this.

funkstar 8 Mar 2008 15:01:26 3,280 posts
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i presume smash brothers will just use friend codes like other online wii titles - in which case i dont think it will make a difference (i hope not anyway!)

Der_tolle_Emil 8 Mar 2008 15:38:20 7,308 posts
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funkstar wrote:
i presume smash brothers will just use friend codes like other online wii titles - in which case i dont think it will make a difference (i hope not anyway!)

That is completely irrelevant though. First of all because you don't need friend codes to play online vs. other people and secondly if you want to play against people you know using friend codes it could still be limited to your local region.

Deleted user 8 March 2008 17:13:34

on my order details on codejunkies it says its been dispatched. i never got an email though.

Ares 8 Mar 2008 20:26:52 1,818 posts
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Rdysn5 wrote:
on my order details on codejunkies it says its been dispatched. i never got an email though.

Same here! Must have updated the status yesterday sometime.

I had placed my order on Monday the 3rd.

Deleted user 9 March 2008 05:50:14

hey Ares, does your tracking number work?
When I click on mine it says can not locate shipment details. Nothing to worry about I hope. It says its shipped anyway on my order page :-)

Ares 9 Mar 2008 07:29:42 1,818 posts
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I checked but I couldn't find a tracking number. That could be me just being a mong though. I'm sure the FreeLoaders will arrive soon enough.

/has no idea what he's talking about

TheBear 9 Mar 2008 10:10:29 4,763 posts
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So they are dispatching later orders first - cheers for that Datel.

Der_tolle_Emil 9 Mar 2008 10:28:07 7,308 posts
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I ordered on the the 28th of February and it still says unprocessed. I have ordered from gameseek now and canceled my Datel order, I even save 2 pounds because shipping costs are lower.

TheBear 9 Mar 2008 10:44:45 4,763 posts
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Der_tolle_Emil wrote:
I ordered on the the 28th of February and it still says unprocessed. I have ordered from gameseek now and canceled my Datel order, I even save 2 pounds because shipping costs are lower.

Yeah I ordered 28th as well - although when they do dispatch I would hope to get it the next day considering it is getting couriered. Saying that if they don't dispatch it tomorrow I'll probably cancel and go with gamseek as well - should have Brawl by Thursday, so NEED Freeloader by then.

Deleted user 9 March 2008 11:16:26

Rdysn5 wrote:
hey Ares, does your tracking number work?
When I click on mine it says can not locate shipment details. Nothing to worry about I hope. It says its shipped anyway on my order page

I haven't ever been able to get the tracking number to work since it shipped on the 6th. Didn't receive a shipping email confirmation either. A tad worrying.

evad_lhorg 9 Mar 2008 13:31:19 86 posts
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How do you go about cancelling the order on the codejunkies site?

Pirotic Moderator 9 Mar 2008 13:51:16 20,644 posts
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I got my mits on a copy today and for what it's worth, doesn't seem to work very well. Feels very rushed, when you load it you're greeted with a lovely bunch of coloured bars akin to a spectrum preparing to show a title screen line by line.

The manual is one double sided sheet of paper which consists of about half a page of warnings about how "it probably won't work" when you update it, try import games on it or so much as breath on it.

Tried a few US GC games, none of which loaded. and tried No More Heros which seemed to do something, just something unfortunately didn't involve getting to the title screen.

The rest of the sheet tells you how to avoid firmware updates, by pulling the disc out and putting it back in a couple of times. So even if it does work, it looks like it's now "FREE 200% extra hassle!" over ye old Gamecube Freeloader.

funkstar 9 Mar 2008 14:05:37 3,280 posts
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Pirotic wrote:
I got my mits on a copy today and for what it's worth, doesn't seem to work very well. Feels very rushed, when you load it you're greeted with a lovely bunch of coloured bars akin to a spectrum preparing to show a title screen line by line.

The manual is one double sided sheet of paper which consists of about half a page of warnings about how "it probably won't work" when you update it, try import games on it or so much as breath on it.

Tried a few US GC games, none of which loaded. and tried No More Heros which seemed to do something, just something unfortunately didn't involve getting to the title screen.

The rest of the sheet tells you how to avoid firmware updates, by pulling the disc out and putting it back in a couple of times. So even if it does work, it looks like it's now "FREE 200% extra hassle!" over ye old Gamecube Freeloader.

/wonders how many US copies of no more heroes are going to be returned in the next couple of weeks

also, doesnt the website say you can play ANY import game? surely thats not allowed if half of them dont work?

El_Che 9 Mar 2008 14:13:22 35 posts
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I guess my NMH copy will be returned then. Gawd, so after having checked on this and some other forums, there's not ONE tale of successfully loading a US GC or WII game with the new Freeloader.

*Tries to shut reality out*

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