Page 2 • New Wii Freeloader! • Gaming • Wii • Eurogamer.net

elredeyegrande 28 Feb 2008 19:38:48 2,382 posts
Seen 6 years ago
Registered 15 years ago

Pah! You people with your reasoning!

I don't have a Wii anymore, so I guess I don't give a shit either way.

Deleted user 28 February 2008 19:46:32

I don't use online at all with my Wii (why bother?), so this looks very interesting indeed.

elredeyegrande 28 Feb 2008 19:49:42 2,382 posts
Seen 6 years ago
Registered 15 years ago

Nintendo haven't even released an update to prevent the Zelda:TP game save hack. I'd say they're not going to update the firmware to battle this for awhile yet..

Plus, who the fuck updates their Wii? Has any update been worthwhile?

Deleted user 28 February 2008 19:51:12

The last three updates have all been for the photo channel.

Deleted user 28 February 2008 19:51:56

Well, Nintendo could put updates on game discs as well. They're not exclusively online, I had to update when I first put in SMG.

ukslamjam 28 Feb 2008 20:11:41 14 posts
Seen 10 years ago
Registered 14 years ago

I'll be very interested to hear if this works ok as I'd love to play MLB Power Pro's on my PAL machine.

MadMirko 28 Feb 2008 20:33:08 2,974 posts
Seen 2 years ago
Registered 17 years ago

Nintendo tolerated the GC Freeloader for quite a long time. I heard someone claim that they only killed it on the Wii when it was discovered it enabled some form of Wii piracy through a GC vulnerability that could be exploited with the Freeloader.

Whether true or not, I imagine they will try to kill it immediately if it allows piracy. If it doesn't, the number of users will probably be minimal and I can imagine they won't care, as those who import will still be buying games (probably more than they otherwise would), after all.

sunjumper 28 Feb 2008 20:58:47 3,548 posts
Seen 2 weeks ago
Registered 20 years ago

Cool if this works it not only means that I will get No More Heroes in with chanbara flavour but I will also be able to play Trauma Centre: New Blood.
I am pleased.

Der_tolle_Emil 28 Feb 2008 21:23:45 7,308 posts
Seen 2 days ago
Registered 16 years ago

elredeyegrande wrote:
Nintendo haven't even released an update to prevent the Zelda:TP game save hack. I'd say they're not going to update the firmware to battle this for awhile yet..

This is because they can't fix it. It's not a bug in the firmware - it's a bug in the game's code, and the game's code cannot be fixed because you can't write to the disc.

I also have a cube freeloader and I never had any problems. Then again I only used it for one game but still. Remember that a Wii freeloader was announced quite some time ago. I'm sure they tested a lot of titles otherwise they would have released it already. As far as I remember only Japanese titles caused problems anyway, I think almost all the US releases worked fine.

elredeyegrande 28 Feb 2008 21:35:47 2,382 posts
Seen 6 years ago
Registered 15 years ago

Err.. How did Sony fix the Lumines hack trick then?

TheBear 28 Feb 2008 21:45:05 4,763 posts
Seen 21 hours ago
Registered 15 years ago

Well, I have no will power so, that's me ordered the Freeloader, NMH and pre-ordered SSBB.

/Crosses fingers.

Der_tolle_Emil 28 Feb 2008 21:52:38 7,308 posts
Seen 2 days ago
Registered 16 years ago

I don't know the PSP's hardware well enough and I don't know the Lumines hack. It could very well be though that the buffer/stack overflow (or whatever it was) was triggered in the firmware itself and not the game code. It could also be that the firmware is much more active on the PSP so that it can prevent this.

Or like on the 360, where games actually look for patches and then apply them.

What the firmware can do is patch the game on the fly when it loads it into the memory. However, depending on how the game was coded this could prove to be a problem.

Of course saying that it cannot be fixed is a bit exaggerated, but I think the chances are rather slim that it will be fixed. (It doesn't even work with all TP versions out there).

Ares 28 Feb 2008 21:53:32 1,818 posts
Seen 11 years ago
Registered 16 years ago

TheBear wrote:
Well, I have no will power so, that's me ordered the Freeloader, NMH and pre-ordered SSBB.

/Crosses fingers.

Bear, please let us know how that works out, so we can avoid wasting money like you if it's unsuccessful. Thanks.

TheBear 28 Feb 2008 22:08:03 4,763 posts
Seen 21 hours ago
Registered 15 years ago

Ares wrote:

TheBear wrote:
Well, I have no will power so, that's me ordered the Freeloader, NMH and pre-ordered SSBB.

/Crosses fingers.

Bear, please let us know how that works out, so we can avoid wasting money like you if it's unsuccessful. Thanks.

A pleasure

Ares 28 Feb 2008 22:09:06 1,818 posts
Seen 11 years ago
Registered 16 years ago

TheBear 28 Feb 2008 22:28:28 4,763 posts
Seen 21 hours ago
Registered 15 years ago

Does anyone have any idea how long VG+ normally take to ship to the UK?

DodgyPast 28 Feb 2008 22:30:14 9,353 posts
Seen 2 hours ago
Registered 16 years ago

The loading of saved games etc. on the PSP is handled by the firmware and in the case of lumines this was where the flaw turned up.

Dan234 28 Feb 2008 22:32:00 2,255 posts
Seen 1 week ago
Registered 14 years ago

There are probably firmware routines to read and write to the SD card which all games and channels call. So Nintendo can update the firmware so it first checks if it's Zelda which wants to load something and if it is then checks if it's a bad save file (horse's name too long) and if it's a bad save file then it can tell Zelda that there's an error and that's the end of that.

absolutezero 28 Feb 2008 22:33:45 7,952 posts
Seen 7 years ago
Registered 17 years ago

That One Piece game shall be mine!!

TheBear 28 Feb 2008 22:38:03 4,763 posts
Seen 21 hours ago
Registered 15 years ago

ecureuil wrote:

TheBear wrote:
Does anyone have any idea how long VG+ normally take to ship to the UK?

2-4 days usually, but sometimes they get a bit mixed up and take a few weeks.

Cheers. heres hoping for the first option for NMH, still enjoying?

Hunam 28 Feb 2008 22:45:28 20,675 posts
Seen 14 hours ago
Registered 15 years ago

Warrenty issue's, sending stuff back to canada will be a ball ache.

Also, having a pal console means you can have a browse in game and pick up some cheap 2 for �30 or something games to have a play on when you get home. Buying every game over the web has a little less magic.

TheBear 28 Feb 2008 22:47:59 4,763 posts
Seen 21 hours ago
Registered 15 years ago

I dunno,I bought my Wii at launch and after that couldn't be bothered importing another one, selling my original etc. I'm more than happy to have a PAL Wii with the Freeloader.

funkstar 28 Feb 2008 22:48:08 3,280 posts
Seen 41 minutes ago
Registered 16 years ago

ecureuil wrote:

I also find it a bit strange how people are unwilling to import the console, but jump all over imports as soon as a disc like this becomes available.

god i would have imported a US wii ages ago if i could only find one for a reasonable price....

TheBear 28 Feb 2008 22:49:48 4,763 posts
Seen 21 hours ago
Registered 15 years ago

Hunam wrote:
Warrenty issue's, sending stuff back to canada will be a ball ache.

Yeah and this - I already had to send my Wii back to get fixed - if I'd imported it, would imagine that would have been an even bigger ball ache than it already was to get sorted

TheBear 28 Feb 2008 22:51:08 4,763 posts
Seen 21 hours ago
Registered 15 years ago

Hunam wrote:

Also, having a pal console means you can have a browse in game and pick up some cheap 2 for �30 or something games to have a play on when you get home. Buying every game over the web has a little less magic.

Mind you, if you have a US Wii and Freeloader, you could do that as well.

New Wii Freeloader! • Page 2