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  • Graxlar_v3 23 Feb 2020 09:03:01 9,933 posts
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    Frogofdoom wrote:
    Wasnt much different to the first fight really but without the scoring farce. Fury is a considerably better boxer.
    I think the difference was that fury could punch this time around?
  • elstoof 23 Feb 2020 09:06:52 25,589 posts
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    Blimey
  • ibenam 23 Feb 2020 09:14:45 3,275 posts
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    ibenam wrote:
    Definitely have fury after the weights

    Can see fury staying in the inside and putting that extra weight on wilder.
    Called it :D
  • Baihu1983 23 Feb 2020 09:22:04 12,255 posts
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    Will he really want a 3rd?

    Let's be honest he lost twice to the man now and he knows it
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 23 Feb 2020 09:26:11 24,444 posts
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    Fair play to Fury. Still think he's a prick but it's good to be shot of Wilder, he's been outboxed by anyone remotely decent so it's good to see him finally lose the belts.
  • smoothpete 23 Feb 2020 09:27:10 36,799 posts
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    Baihu1983 wrote:
    Will he really want a 3rd?

    Let's be honest he lost twice to the man now and he knows it
    For the money he’d get paid for it, I expect so
  • Frogofdoom 23 Feb 2020 09:29:50 16,269 posts
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    Yeah it's been his route to being famous, he will want the rematch for sure. Pretty sure a rematch will have been in the contract anyway.
  • AddyB- 23 Feb 2020 09:39:39 650 posts
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    Apparently has 30 days to decide whether he wants a rematch. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't just retire now.
  • Rum_Monkey 23 Feb 2020 09:43:22 665 posts
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    Hopefully he does a Joshua fight before he retires.

    My wife called it. Doing a bet before the fight and asked what she thought. She said knock out in the 7th, I laughed on only put 2 on instead of a tenner. Still, 80quid isn't bad.
  • smoothpete 23 Feb 2020 10:06:42 36,799 posts
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    I wonder if that big punch to the side of the head knackered his inner ear

    Edited by smoothpete at 10:06:48 23-02-2020
  • Pierre2k 23 Feb 2020 10:15:03 1,183 posts
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    I still think, dialling back a few years, Wilder took Fury as the easy option, rather than fighting AJ.

    At the time, AJ was also undefeated, held most the belts, and really was the only show in town. Fury was the easy route. A guy who still carried some gravitas as the "lineal champion", but was, in theory, past his prime, returning after years of despair. Wilder intended to win it, answer the critics, and maybe look to a distant future fight with AJ.

    Instead, Fury came back with a vengeance, and won IMO in their first encounter. Wilder was shown up skills wise, but he kept his reputation as a knockout puncher who could be dangerous to any opponent.

    For that rematch, Fury put any doubts to bed. Absolute strategic masterclass, executed to perfection. You could question Wilders ability, but you can only fight what is in front of you.

    In the interim, we've also seen AJ now look questionable at times and those questions remain there to be answered. 2 years ago I'd have had AJ the clear favourite, but not sure now. He can box, but I worry about his chin. AJ needs to drop weight from his last couple of bouts in my view. A boxer Vs a boxer. Still, if Fury repeated the tactics seen tonight, I think they could also be effective against AJ. Who knows.

    Great fight anyway.
  • RGeefe 23 Feb 2020 10:33:25 861 posts
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    Watching a replay now. Amazed it got past the fifth. Wilder's legs looked shot and his balance was fucked after the second or third. Completely dismantled by Fury.

    I used to hate the bloke but credit to Tyson for sorting himself out. He doesn't seem the type to turn down the big name fights. He's lost a couple of big years for himself and wants to sort it.
  • Load_2.0 23 Feb 2020 10:50:18 31,406 posts
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    smoothpete wrote:
    I wonder if that big punch to the side of the head knackered his inner ear
    100%. I managed to find a full replay (Cough* MMACore Cough*) You see him being treated after the big shot to the side of the head and there is a LOT of blood, so a burst/perforated eardrum I guess? Balance was knackered after that.

    Also his jaw mouth was fucked. Probably could have been stopped earlier.

    At any rate that was some entertainment. Surprised by the TKO as I would have expected a points win for Fury before the fight.
  • ChiefGB 23 Feb 2020 11:06:01 12,415 posts
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    8bitMofo wrote:
    Fury took away his bearings in that 3rd round, he never looked in it after that.
    He never looked in it full stop, but yeah things only got worse.
  • jimnastics 23 Feb 2020 11:24:28 1,807 posts
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    Load_2.0 wrote:
    smoothpete wrote:
    I wonder if that big punch to the side of the head knackered his inner ear
    100%. I managed to find a full replay (Cough* MMACore Cough*) You see him being treated after the big shot to the side of the head and there is a LOT of blood, so a burst/perforated eardrum I guess? Balance was knackered after that.

    Also his jaw mouth was fucked. Probably could have been stopped earlier.

    At any rate that was some entertainment. Surprised by the TKO as I would have expected a points win for Fury before the fight.
    I haven't seen the interview, but apparently his trainer has confirmed it was just a cut inside his ear. Which makes it even worse for Wilder not having the "burst eardrum" excuse to wheel out.
  • atothewest 23 Feb 2020 14:20:48 1,091 posts
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    There are so many “burst eardrum” Wilder apologists on Twitter right now, who seem to be missing the points that a) it was Fury that burst it*, b) he was able to do so because Wilder is a rubbish boxer.

    It’s like when Ruiz beat AJ. Yes Joshua was rumbled by a “lucky” temple shot which took his equilibrium away, but he was able to do so because AJ got sloppy going for the knockout. These things don’t happen in a vacuum.

    Would obviously still give Wilder a shout in a rematch, power like his always has a shout, but Fury clearly owns the matchup.

    *assuming it even was burst
  • Dougs 23 Feb 2020 14:21:12 93,664 posts
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    Just watched the fight, Wilder was totally schooled. Very smart tactics by Fury. I'm not sure AJ could cope if Fury is in the same place and condition
  • Lukus 23 Feb 2020 14:29:35 23,136 posts
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    I definitely think AJ would put up more of a challenge plus I don't think it would be anything like the same kind of fight. AJ can actually box quite well so the same tactics I don't think would be anywhere near as effective.
    Fury executed the perfect gameplan last night, making it messy, forcing the action and smothering everything with size and weight, neutralising any danger from Wilder. A better boxer won't be as easy to do that to.
  • the_milkybar_kid 23 Feb 2020 14:39:50 8,240 posts
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    If AJ works on his movement as well as he did for his last fight it should make for a fucking brilliant fight.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 23 Feb 2020 14:55:52 24,444 posts
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    Yeah I'd expect the AJ fight to be a lot more interesting than that. Watched the fight earlier and Wilder stunk the fucking place out.
  • lordofthedunce 23 Feb 2020 16:09:23 648 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    Watched the fight earlier and Wilder stunk the fucking place out.
    He really did, absolutely bottled it and looked clueless.
    I'll say one thing for Fury, for all his muppetry he does what he needs to and uses his size well. And so much better when he's got purpose and not nannying around
  • Dougs 23 Feb 2020 16:21:47 93,664 posts
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    He looked a bit dazed tbh.
  • HarryB 23 Feb 2020 19:55:07 7,610 posts
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    Thought it was good entertainment and hope Fury goes for AJ if there’s no rematch with Fury first
  • Dougs 23 Feb 2020 20:17:27 93,664 posts
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    As for the blood licking. Mad.
  • Zeffi 23 Feb 2020 21:31:43 1,021 posts
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    Great fight, huge respect to Fury. Should have been stopped much earlier, Wilder could have a serious injury there.
  • AboutHalfaStevas 23 Feb 2020 22:02:38 2,765 posts
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    Wilder seemed off to me from minute 1, figured he was just taking a while to warm up or something, but it was like he had all confidence drained going in. I mean, Fury was practically walking him down early on, and it was like wilder was way more afraid than I've ever seen him. He normally backs himself toe to toe, but just didn't want to.
  • Jono62 23 Feb 2020 22:52:27 24,841 posts
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    Before the fight, Fury was chill, sitting down and relaxing. Wilder was moving all over the place
  • Baihu1983 25 Feb 2020 06:43:16 12,255 posts
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    Well that's an excuse...
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/51623455
  • Dougs 25 Feb 2020 06:55:36 93,664 posts
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    Ah, the uniform defence. Smart play.
  • elstoof 25 Feb 2020 08:00:19 25,589 posts
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    Judging by his skinny little legs I can believe it
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