Alpha Protocol Page 10

  • Orange 27 May 2010 18:35:35 5,170 posts
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    http://www.gladriel.com/reviewFull/content/1581/Alpha-Protocol-review/

    7.5

    sounds typical Obsidion, great story and rpg elements but lots of bugs and dodgy graphics.
  • Deleted user 27 May 2010 18:36:50
    Orange wrote:
    http://www.gladriel.com/reviewFull/content/1581/Alpha-Protocol-review/

    7.5

    sounds typical Oblivion, great story and rpg elements but lots of bugs and dodgy graphics.

    Oblivion was stunning when it was released. Alpha Protocol doesn't look at all good. And Oblivion had a terrible story too.
  • Deleted user 27 May 2010 18:38:25
    repairmanjack wrote:
    GeeMacca wrote:
    My 360 copy has turned up. Also seem to have been sent a paper slip with limited code for stealth stuff on it, as well as they have emailed me a code. If anyone else is getting it on 360,(once I've checked they are the same) let me know if you want it.

    Yes please!

    I'll send I later on tonight after I've checked it!
  • Whizzo 27 May 2010 18:41:09 44,810 posts
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    Shivoa wrote:
    Whizzo wrote:

    So far, I'm rather enjoying it, it's playing a bit like a third person Deus Ex, hopefully it'll keep that up.

    /focuses his power of selective reading

    Sold!

    /swears at postie for not delivering anything today
    There doesn't appear to be an over world like NYC (at least not I've seen) so it's more focused missions like Area 51 or Vandenburg AFB.
  • Darren 27 May 2010 19:00:00 9,637 posts
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    N@ wrote:
    StarchildHypocrethes wrote:
    Ahh the joys of the Unreal 3 engine for us ATI users :/

    At least the pad works. I find myself using m&kb less and less these days.

    Apparently it does offer controller support. Shame about the AA problems but it's not a deal breaker. What's the performance like at 1080p with something like a 5850? Anyone here with a similar card playing this game?

    I have 2 HD 5870s in CrossFireX mode and with 8xAA the game runs 99% of the time at 60 fps (v-sync is on by default and, by god, a UE3 game WITH a v-sync option, whatever next!!!) but there are some drops to 40 fps from time to time. Could be CrossFire related or do with having 8xAA forced on (probably the latter). It's not an amazing looking game so if your PC can run other UE3 games then it'll handle Alpha Protocol just fine.

    As for the game, well I'm not that far into it so I can't really comment except to say that what I've seen so far is very uninspiring and very middle-of-the-road. The camera feels off and is resolutely locked to the back of your character making it feel rather stiff and unnatural. The animation is absolutely abysmal, it's like something from 1998. I'm currently stuck at a computer terminal hacking mini-game where I have to match two passwords but I don't understand what it is I'm supposed to do. Used that as an excuse to quit to be honest. Will return to it over the weekend to check it out properly.
  • Darren 27 May 2010 19:08:24 9,637 posts
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    Here's a screenshot I took from the start of the game:

    Screenshot

    Looks quite good, doesn't it? Well, just wait until you see it move... :o
  • Deleted user 27 May 2010 19:09:41
    MonsieurTitus wrote:
    Orange wrote:
    http://www.gladriel.com/reviewFull/content/1581/Alpha-Protocol-review/

    7.5

    sounds typical Oblivion, great story and rpg elements but lots of bugs and dodgy graphics.

    Oblivion was stunning when it was released. Alpha Protocol doesn't look at all good. And Oblivion had a terrible story too.

    I think he meant Obsidian...
  • Gambit1977 27 May 2010 19:10:32 10,398 posts
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    MonsieurTitus wrote:
    Orange wrote:
    http://www.gladriel.com/reviewFull/content/1581/Alpha-Protocol-review/

    7.5

    sounds typical Oblivion, great story and rpg elements but lots of bugs and dodgy graphics.

    Oblivion was stunning when it was released. Alpha Protocol doesn't look at all good. And Oblivion had a terrible story too.

    I think he means Obsidian.
  • Deleted user 27 May 2010 19:14:07
    Yeah, that makes sense.
  • MrCarrot 27 May 2010 19:17:50 3,524 posts
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  • jellyhead 27 May 2010 19:19:05 24,356 posts
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    Darren wrote:
    Here's a screenshot I took from the start of the game:
    Screenshot
    Looks quite good, doesn't it? Well, just wait until you see it move... :o
    Bugger, my phone couldn't quite scan that qcode :)
  • Hunam 27 May 2010 19:32:17 20,675 posts
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    You do have to turn motion blur off, it's the worst I've ever seen in a game.

    So far... meh. The stealth doesn't seem to work at all, unlike SC you don't have any indication of how close you are to being spotted, and some pretty unconvincing AI code that has guards walking around in circle on the spot doesn't help at all. Plus on my PC it has lots of micro-loading which just throws mouse control out the window at times, usually just when I need to be in control. I'll give it another bash later, but right now I need to prey to my Chris Avellone shrine to repair my faith.

    I can agree with most of the stuff on this page. Laughable animation and pretty basic graphics. Textures are clear as fuck though, it has to be given that much.
  • ilmaestro 27 May 2010 20:01:31 32,932 posts
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    Is the PC version likely to run well on an E8400/GTS512MB setup? I really want to buy new PC stuff, but I never play PC games, so I don't know what I want the answer to be.
  • Whizzo 27 May 2010 20:02:31 44,810 posts
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    Upgrading your stealth so you get permanent awareness seems like a necessary step, it helps a hell of a lot when you're moving around, that combined with evasion makes stealth a lot more viable.

    I'm onto the final mission in Saudi and it's most certainly not without faults I'm enjoying it. There's a distinct stench of consolitis though, bodies disappear and it's certainly won't be pushing a half decent PC, especially with that AA/AF problem so you have to have it switched off!

    As for hacking you have two strings of characters, they don't move in the sea of text so try to spot them quickly, the left one is moved using WASD and placed with space, the right with the mouse and left clicked. If you take your time, they move, if you take too long the alarm goes off.

    Alarm panels and locked door code pads can get pretty involved and some have some really short trigger times and involve 7 circuits. At least the lock picking is fairly straight forward.
  • Orange 27 May 2010 20:21:57 5,170 posts
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    Gambit1977 wrote:
    MonsieurTitus wrote:
    Orange wrote:
    http://www.gladriel.com/reviewFull/content/1581/Alpha-Protocol-review/

    7.5

    sounds typical Oblivion, great story and rpg elements but lots of bugs and dodgy graphics.

    Oblivion was stunning when it was released. Alpha Protocol doesn't look at all good. And Oblivion had a terrible story too.

    I think he means Obsidian.
    I did indeed mean Obsidian, my feeble brain and typing hands betrayed me.
  • uiruki 27 May 2010 20:45:49 5,975 posts
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    ilmaestro wrote:
    Is the PC version likely to run well on an E8400/GTS512MB setup? I really want to buy new PC stuff, but I never play PC games, so I don't know what I want the answer to be.

    Should do - it runs on Unreal so you should be fine.
  • andywilkie35 27 May 2010 21:14:20 5,327 posts
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    Played for a couple of hours on 360.

    I take back my fears from earlier, so far so good
  • Deleted user 27 May 2010 21:14:54
    Darren wrote:
    N@ wrote:
    StarchildHypocrethes wrote:
    Ahh the joys of the Unreal 3 engine for us ATI users :/

    At least the pad works. I find myself using m&kb less and less these days.

    Apparently it does offer controller support. Shame about the AA problems but it's not a deal breaker. What's the performance like at 1080p with something like a 5850? Anyone here with a similar card playing this game?

    I have 2 HD 5870s in CrossFireX mode and with 8xAA the game runs 99% of the time at 60 fps (v-sync is on by default and, by god, a UE3 game WITH a v-sync option, whatever next!!!) but there are some drops to 40 fps from time to time. Could be CrossFire related or do with having 8xAA forced on (probably the latter). It's not an amazing looking game so if your PC can run other UE3 games then it'll handle Alpha Protocol just fine.

    As for the game, well I'm not that far into it so I can't really comment except to say that what I've seen so far is very uninspiring and very middle-of-the-road. The camera feels off and is resolutely locked to the back of your character making it feel rather stiff and unnatural. The animation is absolutely abysmal, it's like something from 1998. I'm currently stuck at a computer terminal hacking mini-game where I have to match two passwords but I don't understand what it is I'm supposed to do. Used that as an excuse to quit to be honest. Will return to it over the weekend to check it out properly.

    Great, accept xfire 5870's are not really like a 5850. :/

    ed

    And what is the point of using 8xAA at 1900x1200? Why not drop down to 4xAA and get more fps. :/x2
  • Whizzo 27 May 2010 21:42:02 44,810 posts
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    Not much point in running it with any AA/AF set if you can't read the dialogue options!
  • ilmaestro 27 May 2010 22:14:35 32,932 posts
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    uiruki wrote:
    ilmaestro wrote:
    Is the PC version likely to run well on an E8400/GTS512MB setup? I really want to buy new PC stuff, but I never play PC games, so I don't know what I want the answer to be.

    Should do - it runs on Unreal so you should be fine.
    Cheers.

    Does anyone know how long the game is supposed to be?
  • Hunam 27 May 2010 22:56:50 20,675 posts
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    Christ, this is an absolute disaster. Woeful animation. PS2 but in HD graphics. Rag dolls from 2002. Clumsy combat. Fuck knows what's going on with the stealth. Bland, empty levels. Basic design faults like not being able to crack windows them jump through them or over cover objects. Restarting a level can make the first baddie look right at you and set of an alarm. Baddies that seem to be glued to fucking red barrels. Some of the worst, most unconvincing AI of the last 5 years. Main character is supposed to be clever, yet it written and acted as a fucking spacker.

    I'm honestly trying to think of something they did right with this, but I honestly cant.
  • Deleted user 27 May 2010 23:04:55
    O_O
  • Deleted user 27 May 2010 23:12:08
    Hunam wrote:
    Christ, this is an absolute disaster. Woeful animation. PS2 but in HD graphics. Rag dolls from 2002. Clumsy combat. Fuck knows what's going on with the stealth. Bland, empty levels. Basic design faults like not being able to crack windows them jump through them or over cover objects. Restarting a level can make the first baddie look right at you and set of an alarm. Baddies that seem to be glued to fucking red barrels. Some of the worst, most unconvincing AI of the last 5 years. Main character is supposed to be clever, yet it written and acted as a fucking spacker.

    I'm honestly trying to think of something they did right with this, but I honestly cant.

    It sounds like a complete disaster. I wonder what went wrong. Evidently Sega know it's shit too.
  • Hunam 27 May 2010 23:16:26 20,675 posts
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    SEGA generally publish shit so I think it's a good fit.
  • Deleted user 27 May 2010 23:19:11
    Hunam wrote:
    SEGA generally publish shit so I think it's a good fit.

    They publish both Football Manager and the Total War series on PC so not all bad.
  • Hunam 27 May 2010 23:20:07 20,675 posts
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    Empire being nearly as broken as AP :p
  • ChronoMizaki 27 May 2010 23:51:43 131 posts
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    Hunam wrote:
    Christ, this is an absolute disaster. Woeful animation. PS2 but in HD graphics. Rag dolls from 2002. Clumsy combat. Fuck knows what's going on with the stealth. Bland, empty levels. Basic design faults like not being able to crack windows them jump through them or over cover objects. Restarting a level can make the first baddie look right at you and set of an alarm. Baddies that seem to be glued to fucking red barrels. Some of the worst, most unconvincing AI of the last 5 years. Main character is supposed to be clever, yet it written and acted as a fucking spacker.

    I'm honestly trying to think of something they did right with this, but I honestly cant.

    I was about to buy AP today [one game shop was selling it a day early], but after reading this, I'm thankful that I didn't buy it. So Hunam, is it worth trying to tackle numerous ways or is there simply no reward for it?
  • repairmanjack 27 May 2010 23:55:56 6,133 posts
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    GeeMacca wrote:
    repairmanjack wrote:
    GeeMacca wrote:
    My 360 copy has turned up. Also seem to have been sent a paper slip with limited code for stealth stuff on it, as well as they have emailed me a code. If anyone else is getting it on 360,(once I've checked they are the same) let me know if you want it.

    Yes please!

    I'll send I later on tonight after I've checked it!

    Great! Thanks, GM.
  • Deleted user 28 May 2010 00:05:33
    Gamespot has given this a 6.0 apparently.

    Alpha Protocol's astounding intricacies are tarnished by bugs, clumsy gameplay mechanics, and rough production values.

    http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/alphaprotocol/index.html
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