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Potentially off topic, but you can get decent decaf teas and coffees for the nighttime. I'd wager its a much better situation than AF beer. I understand the problem though, I cant really think of anything non-alcoholic that you sit and make a mini event out of. Personally I'd do better just making peace with nothing than trying to find a substitute |
At what point are you an alcoholic?
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Psiloc 6,368 posts
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mrharvest 5,718 posts
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Registered 18 years agomothercruncher wrote:
Yeah, I understand exactly. I used to be teetotal when I was a teenager (I know, I was a right laugh back then too!) and only started drinking because I got into real ale and whisky. It was how my drinking went unchecked for a long time because I was mostly drinking the top shelf stuff so "of course I can't be an alcoholic!"
I’m still really struggling to find something interesting to drink at night that isn’t alcoholic. Just not interested in tea/coffee in the evening and most of the fancy “adult” style fizzy drinks etc are just full of sugar.
For prep, how long do you cold brew for?
I miss the taste and that's why I'm tempted when I see a nice bottle of Laphroaig in the shop. If I could replace the flavour and the body of a good spirit I feel like I'd struggle less. Or if the weather was less shit I could at least smoke my Cubans.
Anyway, I brew one aeropress coffee scoop of loose leaf lapsang in a whisky bottle full of water 12-20 hours in the fridge. So, uh, a tablespoon per mug? But it can make a couple of batches. If you mentally think it's tea and not a replacement, it actually fills a bit of the same void for me as having a drink. -
quadfather 39,071 posts
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Registered 11 years agoPsiloc wrote:
That's how I view it too. It's the same for sausages or vegetarian equivalent. If I don't want to eat meat I won't go and find something that looks and tastes like meat. I'll either have meat or I will have something else. I don't get the substitution bit.
Potentially off topic, but you can get decent decaf teas and coffees for the nighttime. I'd wager its a much better situation than AF beer.
I understand the problem though, I cant really think of anything non-alcoholic that you sit and make a mini event out of. Personally I'd do better just making peace with nothing than trying to find a substitute
It's the same when I'm playing music. If we're jamming I'll definitely get a little bit fucked to loosen up and feel the vibe better. But if we're recording then it's a no-no till afterwards.
I'm still an alcoholic as I drink daily but I accept that and make sure that certain things are done without alcohol. I don't drink to taste the flavour as I think that's all cognitive bias - I drink to feel different. Or escape. Whatever you want to call it. -
Psychotext 70,652 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI've never needed something to just "drink" of an evening.
I tend to continually have coffee on the go for most of the day, but rarely tend to drink anything after 6pm. Maybe a decaff after I've finished training.
If I'm drinking alcohol it's because I want a buzz, or I'm trying out new rum samples. -
mrharvest 5,718 posts
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Registered 18 years agoquadfather wrote:
Would you rather have synth drums than no drums at all?
It's the same when I'm playing music. If we're jamming I'll definitely get a little bit fucked to loosen up and feel the vibe better. But if we're recording then it's a no-no till afterwards. -
quadfather 39,071 posts
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Registered 11 years agoPsychotext wrote:
Yeah similar with the buzz bit, definitely
I've never needed something to just "drink" of an evening.
I tend to continually have coffee on the go for most of the day, but rarely tend to drink anything after 6pm. Maybe a decaff after I've finished training.
If I'm drinking alcohol it's because I want a buzz, or I'm trying out new rum samples. -
quadfather 39,071 posts
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Registered 11 years agomrharvest wrote:
Depends on the song, but I get you
quadfather wrote:
Would you rather have synth drums than no drums at all?
It's the same when I'm playing music. If we're jamming I'll definitely get a little bit fucked to loosen up and feel the vibe better. But if we're recording then it's a no-no till afterwards..gif)
If there are no acoustic drums, then all we'd do is use synth drums to practice, or play a song without drums. But the end goal is to have the real drums so it has to happen eventually. -
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quadfather 39,071 posts
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Registered 11 years agoInteresting. I know we're a bunch of pissheads, but I thought Belarus had the top position. -
DJCopa 2,578 posts
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Registered 15 years agoquadfather wrote:
I think we just can't handle it - the survey was for falling over and slurring speech
Interesting. I know we're a bunch of pissheads, but I thought Belarus had the top position. -
quadfather 39,071 posts
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Registered 11 years ago@DJCopa
Hah yeah, I did spot that bit. I guess in Belarus you're probably given vodka at the age of 15 minutes -
Decks 31,014 posts
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Registered 6 years ago33 times in a year?? I reckon I'll have that beat by May. -
Dirt3 1,781 posts
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Registered 7 years agoThere is a difference between getting drunk and alcohol consumption though.
You might go out on a 10 pint bender once per week, but you will still consume less than the guy religiously drinking 1.5 pints per day.
The UK is fairly well down the list on alcohol consumption per person per year.
Also, I don't believe the figures anyway. For example Norway is a long way down. That's probably because they brew half the stuff they consume at home and it never makes it to the official figures. -
quadfather 39,071 posts
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Registered 11 years ago"The English were among the least remorseful about getting drunk"
For Christ's sake, I love how 1.8% of 110,000 people means that as a nation, we're branded "least remorseful". Who came up with that quote?
I might start using it.
"Quaddy, you're a wanker"
"ah, but I'm least remorseful about it, eh"
Twats. -
The Parable of Quaddy, The Remorseful Wanker
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Trafford 9,359 posts
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Registered 14 years agosmoothpete wrote:
There's some good stuff in here. I like the suggestion from one person of getting a robe/dressing gown type thing 😅
You might find the "stopdrinking" subreddit helpful
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Registered 1 year agoI think when you could no longer function and do what you are supposedly to do on a daily basis -
Psychotext 70,652 posts
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Registered 15 years agocaptain-jack wrote:
That's what the concept of "high functioning" alcoholic covers though. Still very, very much an alcoholic, but gets shit done all the same.
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wuntyate 17,494 posts
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Registered 8 years agoAfter getting in from work yesterday I couldn't actually get to the fridge fast enough to get a can of lager opened. That's probably not a great sign. I've gone from "huh I only had a couple of drinks" on the Friday evening to drinking 4 nights on the trot. I can't seem to get a proper handle on it just now. What's more worrying is that my golden rule was never to drink the night before a run, and I run 5-6 mornings a week. Yet I seem to be able to manage getting out and running just fine*, which makes it hard to justify not drinking the night before.
*It's blatantly not fine, I'm probably shambling all over the path.
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Cappy 14,394 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI'm trying for a full thirty day break. I took a four day break last week.
Day two, twenty eight days to go. Life seems so much more boring in the evenings. -
Psychotext 70,652 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThankfully I've been too busy to really notice.
Still not really losing any weight though, or feeling any sort of health benefits. -
Trafford 9,359 posts
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Registered 14 years agoYeah it is possible to "highly function" for years, maybe at that point you're just a heavy drinker.
But a time can come when something happens and the wheels come off.
Some talk about a threefold illness, mental, spiritual and ultimately the physical addiction. The first two can be there for years before the physical side kicks in.
Via recovery I know dozens of Alchies, pretty much all are well balanced, good people. I've also lost two friends since April last year who died due to relapse.
I have to say though, it's a killer illness and once you hit a rock bottom the only way to go is seek help and total abstinence. It ain't all bad once you get used to it and consider the alternatives. -
Dirt3 1,781 posts
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Registered 7 years agowuntyate wrote:
What's your unit consumption per week though ?
After getting in from work yesterday I couldn't actually get to the fridge fast enough to get a can of lager opened. That's probably not a great sign. I've gone from "huh I only had a couple of drinks" on the Friday evening to drinking 4 nights on the trot. I can't seem to get a proper handle on it just now. What's more worrying is that my golden rule was never to drink the night before a run, and I run 5-6 mornings a week. Yet I seem to be able to manage getting out and running just fine*, which makes it hard to justify not drinking the night before.
*It's blatantly not fine, I'm probably shambling all over the path.
Also, what do you drink, are you exclusively on lager or moved up to spirits ?
I think when you move onto quaffing spirits on a regular basis that is the point where it is possible for drinking to get seriously out of hand, because you can down so much more alcohol with spirits than with beer.
Most of the people I know that have issues had to move onto spirits at some stage because there just wasn't enough alcohol in the beer to keep them tanked up. -
wuntyate 17,494 posts
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Registered 8 years ago@Dirt3 Don't know to be honest I've been trying not to think about the units which admittedly is not a good sign either. The last couple of weeks has been a combination of cocktails, red wine, whisky, lager and ale. The trouble is that I am terribly thirsty and it's more the first couple of drinks I need to get that slight head on than get seriously sponged. -
quadfather 39,071 posts
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Registered 11 years agowuntyate wrote:
That's kind of the same thing that happens with me, except replace running with music jamming. So it's a few beers to warm up, then a few beers whilst jamming, and then a few beers when I get home to finish.
After getting in from work yesterday I couldn't actually get to the fridge fast enough to get a can of lager opened. That's probably not a great sign. I've gone from "huh I only had a couple of drinks" on the Friday evening to drinking 4 nights on the trot. I can't seem to get a proper handle on it just now. What's more worrying is that my golden rule was never to drink the night before a run, and I run 5-6 mornings a week. Yet I seem to be able to manage getting out and running just fine*, which makes it hard to justify not drinking the night before.
*It's blatantly not fine, I'm probably shambling all over the path.
And if I'm not jamming, I'm either listening to music (oh look, that goes exceptionally well with a smoke and some beers) or meeting with my bubble, which is a social thing. Where we have a drink.
All the non-drinking stuff - work, shopping, housework, driving etc, is all done in the day beforehand. But I'm probably just describing a functional alcoholic.
That's another thing - if you think about it, there are 24 hours in a day, and say you spend 8 asleep, and then 8 at work. That leaves you with 8 hours to do whatever it is you want/like to do. That's not many hours to fit everything in.
Fucking capitalistic slavery model. I think that turns me to drink more than anything. -
quadfather 39,071 posts
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Registered 11 years agowuntyate wrote:
The other thing is, do you actually give a fuck or not? I don't mean that in a dismissive / aggressive way, I mean, are you actually bothered about probably drinking too much, or are you fine with it and just keep your eye on it?
@Dirt3 Don't know to be honest I've been trying not to think about the units which admittedly is not a good sign either. The last couple of weeks has been a combination of cocktails, red wine, whisky, lager and ale. The trouble is that I am terribly thirsty and it's more the first couple of drinks I need to get that slight head on than get seriously sponged. -
wuntyate 17,494 posts
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Registered 8 years agoNo. Yes. I don't know. I feel as though I should give a fuck but the truth is I don't think I do. Yet it's always at the back of my mind that if I want my running to improve and save money and feel less like pish most of the time it's probably better I cut it out. Yet I can't pretend I don't need that wee buzz that just chills me the fuck out. -
quadfather 39,071 posts
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Registered 11 years ago@wuntyate
Yeah, I know what you mean, you feel like you should give a bit of a fuck about it probably from guilt, or to lead a better* lifestyle, but in essence, you enjoy it. So it conflicts.
But it's not like you're sitting in the dark on your own glugging vodka back all night long is it? Or is it?
You also mentioned, "if" you wanted your running to improve, and not, "I want my running to improve". Which is it?
Also, we probably need to add in the fact we're in a national lockdown, which isn't exactly the best springboard to achieving and maintaining a healthy mental attitude.
*whatever the fuck that is. I class a good lifestyle as one that aligns with being happy and that's it.
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I want my running to improve so long as it doesn't impede my drinking 
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