Following At what point are you an alcoholic? Page 12

  • Deleted user 28 April 2016 08:17:55
    Decks wrote:
    Yeah I was quite surprised when I read through the 12 steps and saw they were all about submitting your will to God and other such shit. I imagine it's a lot worse in the US.
    It handily ties into how alcoholics "have to" realise they have no control over some parts of their behaviour, so you must give yourself up to a higher power.
  • elstoof 28 Apr 2016 08:18:01 28,126 posts
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    White wine only drinkers dont typically like wine in my experience, they're just happy with a cheap bottle that's relatively inoffensive when cold enough to mask the bad taste.
  • CosmicFuzz 28 Apr 2016 08:19:27 32,632 posts
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    @Trafford glad it's working out well for you mate :)
  • Decks 28 Apr 2016 08:29:56 31,014 posts
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    Red wine is the best thing man has ever created.

    Edited by Decks at 08:30:07 28-04-2016
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 28 Apr 2016 08:32:27 47,501 posts
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    No, that would be fresh bread. Still slightly warm.
  • Decks 28 Apr 2016 08:35:01 31,014 posts
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    Dipped in red wine.
  • elstoof 28 Apr 2016 08:37:16 28,126 posts
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    Le pain. Le vin. Le boursin.
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    A bacon sarnie made with freshly cooked bread... Dipped in red wine
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 28 Apr 2016 08:41:39 47,501 posts
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    Deep fryed in beer batter.
  • elstoof 28 Apr 2016 08:42:05 28,126 posts
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    Stale bread, fried in the bacon grease.
  • Rivuzu 28 Apr 2016 08:50:34 18,424 posts
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    Wrong thread to read after skipping breakfast.

    I'll have to buy a bottle of blossom hill before getting into work.
  • Alastair 28 Apr 2016 08:57:22 24,828 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    Le pain. Le vin. Le boursin.
    Du pain. Du vin. Du Boursin.

    sorry

    Actually, that's culinary heaven. :)
  • Trafford 28 Apr 2016 08:57:27 9,359 posts
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    Thanks for the best wishes chaps.
    It is an illness that can get aggressively worse if your mind is that way bent.
    In regards to controlling things and being a moderate drinker, it's really not on option for someone like me, akin to approaching a Gorilla for some sweet love making.
  • TheSaint 28 Apr 2016 08:57:51 20,950 posts
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    Rivuzu wrote:
    Wrong thread to read after skipping breakfast.

    I'll have to buy a bottle of blossom hill before getting into work.
    Breakfast of champions.
  • mothercruncher 28 Apr 2016 09:04:04 19,475 posts
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    Rusty_M wrote:
    Red wine really doesn't like me.
    I can drink a LOT of red wine, stouts, whiskys etc, but white wine, regular lager etc both get me pissed significantly quicker and give me a worse hangover, not sure why.
  • Decks 28 Apr 2016 09:06:04 31,014 posts
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    White wine just tastes like heartburn to me.
  • Dougs 28 Apr 2016 09:22:44 100,414 posts
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    Trafford wrote:
    Thanks for the best wishes chaps.
    It is an illness that can get aggressively worse if your mind is that way bent.
    In regards to controlling things and being a moderate drinker, it's really not on option for someone like me, akin to approaching a Gorilla for some sweet love making.
    And that's ultimately the difference between someone who is a heavy drinker and an alcoholic. A mate of mine was unable to get dry, sadly, despite lots of people trying to help him. It's just too much for some people. :(

    Good luck, stay strong!
  • Alastair 28 Apr 2016 09:30:30 24,828 posts
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    Trafford wrote:
    Thanks for the best wishes chaps.
    It is an illness that can get aggressively worse if your mind is that way bent.
    In regards to controlling things and being a moderate drinker, it's really not on option for someone like me, akin to approaching a Gorilla for some sweet love making.
    Yeah, likewise, good luck with it.
  • Psiloc 28 Apr 2016 09:32:23 6,368 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    White wine just tastes like heartburn to me.
    Yep.

    I also don't get the fuss about champagne, it's fucking horrible.
  • Psiloc 28 Apr 2016 09:40:30 6,368 posts
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    Alastair wrote:
    Trafford wrote:
    Thanks for the best wishes chaps.
    It is an illness that can get aggressively worse if your mind is that way bent.
    In regards to controlling things and being a moderate drinker, it's really not on option for someone like me, akin to approaching a Gorilla for some sweet love making.
    Yeah, likewise, good luck with it.
    Yep, all the best.

    Not to turn it back onto me (the premise to this thread is ancient history as far as I'm concerned) but it's stuff like this that makes me think I was probably never an alcoholic. Without any effort whatsoever, I just slowly changed and became a moderate/normal drinker.
  • smoothpete 28 Apr 2016 09:41:53 37,743 posts
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    Yeah fair play Trafford, well done. A better man than I.
  • Trafford 28 Apr 2016 09:53:13 9,359 posts
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    smoothpete wrote:
    Yeah fair play Trafford, well done. A better man than I.
    Thanks, but not the case.
    I'd just say that it's easy to go from being a happy moderate to heavy drinker to full blown alcoholic if life deals a bad hand.
    And digging yourself out of that hole is the trick, I was lucky in that work stepped in to help me out.
  • THFourteen 28 Apr 2016 10:09:55 54,987 posts
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    Psiloc wrote:
    Can't believe how many people don't like red wine.
    I don't like any kind of wine.

    we used to drink bottles of £2-3 wine at uni (cuve le bosq eurrrrrrrgh) and then throw up a lot, so i now associate wine as horrible tasting get drunk cheap and fast rubbish.

    always beer or vodka + mixer if pushed / full

    thats it for me
  • twelveways 28 Apr 2016 10:19:59 7,131 posts
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    I love red wine, can't be doing with white (apart from an occasional champagne) though as it gives me heartburn
  • Dougs 28 Apr 2016 10:21:15 100,414 posts
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    Yeah, red wine all the way. White wine/rose is OK with food only imo. Which is probably how it should be drunk.
  • Rivuzu 28 Apr 2016 10:21:17 18,424 posts
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    Guy at work passed away just before Christmas, and we suspect it was due to alcoholism. Every lunch, after work and some times before work, he'd be down the pub for a pint or two before coming in. Sad really. Can't really say work was that supportive about it either, as he had everything in hand when he was here. "Functioning alcoholic" I guess is the term.
  • Deleted user 28 April 2016 10:26:33
    THFourteen wrote:
    Psiloc wrote:
    Can't believe how many people don't like red wine.
    I don't like any kind of wine.

    we used to drink bottles of £2-3 wine at uni (cuve le bosq eurrrrrrrgh) and then throw up a lot, so i now associate wine as horrible tasting get drunk cheap and fast rubbish.

    always beer or vodka + mixer if pushed / full

    thats it for me

    10 or so years ago they sold a lot of cheap nasty wine everywhere. Nowadays it's all fairly nice, even the really cheap stuff. You'd be hard pressed to even find nasty stuff.
  • THFourteen 28 Apr 2016 10:28:18 54,987 posts
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    GoingNowWhere wrote:
    10 or so years ago they sold a lot of cheap nasty wine everywhere. Nowadays it's all fairly nice, even the really cheap stuff. You'd be hard pressed to even find nasty stuff.
    I can drink red wine if pressed. Any sort of white wine seems to produce some sort of instantaneous gag reflex though.

    I don't see why i should though. If i go out to dinner and people are having wine and i order a beer and they look at me funny then fuck them, they are not my sort of people.
  • Alastair 28 Apr 2016 10:29:11 24,828 posts
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    GoingNowWhere wrote:
    You'd be hard pressed to even find nasty stuff.
    Perhaps it's in wrinkly's 'cellar'.
  • Psiloc 28 Apr 2016 10:35:13 6,368 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    GoingNowWhere wrote:
    10 or so years ago they sold a lot of cheap nasty wine everywhere. Nowadays it's all fairly nice, even the really cheap stuff. You'd be hard pressed to even find nasty stuff.
    I can drink red wine if pressed. Any sort of white wine seems to produce some sort of instantaneous gag reflex though.

    I don't see why i should though. If i go out to dinner and people are having wine and i order a beer and they look at me funny then fuck them, they are not my sort of people.
    Red wine and red meat though, come on?
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