Following At what point are you an alcoholic? Page 4

  • Psiloc 14 Apr 2008 13:55:10 6,168 posts
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    Well that's what I've been told.
  • monkeypuzzle 14 Apr 2008 13:56:52 1,949 posts
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    I think you are on the verge of alcoholism. Bottle of whisky twice a week and half a bottle all the other days is excessive and before too long you will be a bottle a day. Then you will still be saying its not affecting you.

    Cut down.
  • JuanKerr 14 Apr 2008 13:57:15 37,710 posts
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    Psiloc wrote:
    Well that's what I've been told.

    Seriously mate, objectively speaking, half a bottle of whisky a day is a hell of a lot regardless of whether if meets the 'criteria' for being an alcoholic.

    Like it has been suggested, try going without booze for a fortnight and see what happens. If you can't resist, break out into cold sweats and it affects your mood, get it sorted asap.
  • PinkSpider 14 Apr 2008 14:01:28 3,349 posts
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    Heck thats a lot. Even if it is good stuff.

    I've got a mate who I think is an alcoholic (despite me usually being there). Once me and the missus where in a pub in town and he walked in alone and got a whisky.

    During college I used to be on two bottles of vodka a week (70cl) and heck that was a lot. Good days they where though.

    Now I try and drink herbal teas at home only. That and brew some slightly stronger herbs into nice teas.

    /goes and gets beer from fridge.
  • Tiger_Walts 14 Apr 2008 14:12:31 16,674 posts
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    Is this your theme-song?
  • JYM60 14 Apr 2008 14:21:06 18,924 posts
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    I don't really drink at home unless I've friends over, don't see the point.

    Even when I do drink it's not much, I mean I can drink by the bucket if I want but rarely do. When I'm out people who don't know me normally think I'm pissed when I've not had a sip though. Thats maybe why I don't go off the rails too much as I'm already a mentalist without alcohol.

    I'd say once every 2 months I'd do the off my head, WTF happened last night, why's there two girls two guys and five dogs in my bed thing.
  • smoothpete 14 Apr 2008 14:39:45 37,622 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Pissing in your own face at a family gathering is a telltail symptom.
    Ah I vaguely remember that story, tell it again
  • Dirtbox 14 Apr 2008 14:43:29 92,357 posts
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  • MrSensible 14 Apr 2008 14:44:08 26,517 posts
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    JYM60 wrote:
    When I'm out people who don't know me normally think I'm pissed when I've not had a sip though. Thats maybe why I don't go off the rails too much as I'm already a mentalist without alcohol.

    My mate is like that. People always seem to think he's drunk or on drugs but nope, he's just always like that :D
  • tenofspades 14 Apr 2008 14:46:21 1,800 posts
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    I need a drink to think about this.
  • Dirtbox 14 Apr 2008 14:47:33 92,357 posts
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  • smoothpete 14 Apr 2008 14:52:16 37,622 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    smoothpete wrote:
    Dirtbox wrote:
    Pissing in your own face at a family gathering is a telltail symptom.
    Ah I vaguely remember that story, tell it again
    Found it
    Fucking brilliant, love that story. Cheers that's brightened my afternoon :D
  • Psiloc 14 Apr 2008 14:53:17 6,168 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    smoothpete wrote:
    Dirtbox wrote:
    Pissing in your own face at a family gathering is a telltail symptom.
    Ah I vaguely remember that story, tell it again
    Found it
    I smiled at that original comment when I thought you were just being facetious.

    Now my entire office is asking me what's so funny.
  • dr_swin 14 Apr 2008 15:12:02 4,929 posts
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    Medically speaking this questionnaire was often used in the past. Its use has been superceded by the more accurate AUDIT or AUDIT-C questionnaire. The questions it uses check for similar points raised earlier in the thread as well as asking about how often and how much you drink.

    The CAGE questionnaire.

    Alcohol dependence is likely if the patient gives 2 or more positive answers:


    have you ever felt you should CUT down your drinking?

    have people ANNOYED you by criticising your drinking?

    have you ever felt bad or GUILTY about your drinking?

    have you ever had a drink first think in the morning to steady your nerves or get rid of a hangover (EYE- opener)?

    Bernadt et al have claimed that the CAGE test (scores >=2) has a sensitivity of 93% and a specificity of 76% for the identification of problem drinkers.


    copied and pasted without kind permission from my favourite gp website.
  • Goban 14 Apr 2008 15:15:00 10,120 posts
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    I answered yes to all of those but I'm far from an alcoholic.

    A problem drinker is not necessarily an alcoholic.
  • monkeypuzzle 14 Apr 2008 15:16:09 1,949 posts
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    Goban wrote:
    I answered yes to all of those but I'm far from an alcoholic.

    Denial
  • Goban 14 Apr 2008 15:17:12 10,120 posts
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    Not really, I've just had my moments over the years.
  • UncleLou Moderator 14 Apr 2008 15:17:59 40,532 posts
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    Goban wrote:
    I answered yes to all of those but I'm far from an alcoholic.

    You had a drink frist time in the morning to calm down your nerves and/or cure a hangover?

    Of course, as always, common sense must be applied. If you did it once 20 years ago to try out how it feels, it doesn't count.
  • Stickman 14 Apr 2008 15:18:37 29,986 posts
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    Dirtbox, you've just saved Monday on EG from being a complete bag of toss. Love that tale!
  • Goban 14 Apr 2008 15:19:57 10,120 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    Goban wrote:
    I answered yes to all of those but I'm far from an alcoholic.

    You had a drink frist time in the morning to calm down your nerves and/or cure a hangover?

    Of course, as always, common sense must be applied. If you did it once 20 years ago to try out how it feels, it doesn't count.
    It's hardly habitual behaviour but it had happened on occasion.
  • Psiloc 14 Apr 2008 15:22:16 6,168 posts
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    3 out of 4 for me.
  • monkeypuzzle 14 Apr 2008 15:23:51 1,949 posts
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    Psiloc not being funny, honest but is that a silent 's' in your name?
  • Psiloc 14 Apr 2008 15:25:10 6,168 posts
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    Nah, the 'p' is silent.
  • Dirtbox 14 Apr 2008 15:26:13 92,357 posts
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  • monkeypuzzle 14 Apr 2008 15:26:40 1,949 posts
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    Psiloc wrote:
    Nah, the 'p' is silent.

    thank you
  • dr_swin 14 Apr 2008 15:28:47 4,929 posts
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    the specificity of that questionnaire is reported as 76%. That means that about 25% of people testing positive for the questionnarie will actually be normal.
  • monkeypuzzle 14 Apr 2008 15:29:57 1,949 posts
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    dr_swin wrote:
    the specificity of that questionnaire is reported as 76%. That means that about 25% of people testing positive for the questionnarie will actually be normal.

    24% to be precise.
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