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Tom_Servo 18,079 posts
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LionheartDJH 20,303 posts
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Registered 12 years agobad09 wrote:
The campaign could have been a cover to divert attention and hamper the investigation, the police told them to let them do their jobs and keep it out of media at the time they went straight out and ignored that for some reason.
Cos they thought that mass media exposure could help to find her? It's understandable. -
LionheartDJH wrote:
bad09 wrote:
The campaign could have been a cover to divert attention and hamper the investigation, the police told them to let them do their jobs and keep it out of media at the time they went straight out and ignored that for some reason.
Cos they thought that mass media exposure could help to find her? It's understandable.
oh right and answering police questions; thus aiding investigations wouldn't?
if my child went missing OBVIOUSLY i would set up a LTD company, rake in a load of cash and do whaever I could to hamper police investigations and try and divert attention by going on a worlwide publicity tour to meet the pope!
its obviously the way forward. -
glaeken 12,070 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI actually agree with Mr. interesting on this a little. I would not say I am 100% sure but I have always thought the McCann's story was suspect. The motivations for covering it up for them if they did cause her accidental death I have no problems seeing.
I have also never liked the tone the British press took on how dare the dirty foreigners accuse upstanding British citizens of such a thing. I really don't think the local police are quite the idiots the British press painted them as and I don't think they would have considered the McCann's as suspects lightly. -
Mr_interesting_2011 112 posts
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Registered 10 years agoI agree...
Setting up a limited company means that any donations or money given has to be taxed at the normal rate. Had they set up the fund as a charity they wouldn't have had to pay any tax and the fund would therefore have between 20-40% more cash in it.
Hang on though, a charity has to be fully open and transparent and declare how the money is being used. With a limited company they could just use the money to pay their mortgage...
hmmm... -
Cadence 2,585 posts
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Registered 16 years agoHaha, I like this guy ^^ -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI don't think the "paedo stole my daughter from our locked hotel room" story is particularly plausible really. It's only because we believe we live in a world where there are paedos on every street corner waiting to abduct our children that this story ever got any traction (which is another media created myth - a child is statistically *far* more likely to be sexually abused/killed/harmed by someone in their own family than random ninja paedo stranger).
The idea the parents killed the child (intentionally or otherwise) and they managed to pull of the crime of the century is also pretty gob-smacking though.
In terms of what is least fantastic and most like to have happened, imho, is that unsupervised toddler went wandering and got lost, died by accident. Body not found. -
LionheartDJH 20,303 posts
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Registered 12 years agoMadder-Max wrote:
LionheartDJH wrote:
bad09 wrote:
The campaign could have been a cover to divert attention and hamper the investigation, the police told them to let them do their jobs and keep it out of media at the time they went straight out and ignored that for some reason.
Cos they thought that mass media exposure could help to find her? It's understandable.
oh right and answering police questions; thus aiding investigations wouldn't?
if my child went missing OBVIOUSLY i would set up a LTD company, rake in a load of cash and do whaever I could to hamper police investigations and try and divert attention by going on a worlwide publicity tour to meet the pope!
its obviously the way forward.
Wow, I never said I was in support of them or some of the stuff they've done isn't bad, just responding with what I thought was the obvious answer as to why they took it public like they did.
Okay I didn't suggest anything of that sort at all, and no I don't think the stuff they've done like that is good. They should have answered questions from the police and it does raise some suspicions that they didn't. The media circus around the whole thing got very tedious and I am sure that it hampered the investigation in some ways, though how much of that can be blamed on the McCann's themselves I'm not sure. -
Dolly 3,653 posts
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Registered 15 years agoChopsen wrote:
In terms of what is least fantastic and most like to have happened, imho, is that unsupervised toddler went wandering and got lost, died by accident. Body not found.
It's very likely that sniffer dogs would have followed her scent like that though. You'd also have to say that in theory, there would be quite a small area for a 3 year old to have walked in that time-frame and not to have been recovered in the search of the local area, or spotted by witnesses as a child walking alone at night. -
Mr_interesting_2011 112 posts
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Registered 10 years agoI agree again...
sniffer dogs only found the scent (of a dead body that is) in the apartment and hire car... -
LionheartDJH 20,303 posts
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Registered 12 years agoWasn't it on the coast though? Possibility she could have wandered onto the beach and been washed out by the tide? -
DaM 17,729 posts
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Registered 20 years agoYear to Date Turnover Pre Tax Profit Shareholder Funds
31/03/2010 £233,099 -£217,632 £470,034
31/03/2009 £629,181 -£354,885 £690,264
31/03/2008 £1,846,178 £1,064,489 £1,052,027
Here's a brief summary of their company accounts.
Somebody with a clue about accounts can maybe say what it means. -
glaeken 12,070 posts
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Registered 17 years agoParents killing their own children is not without historical precedence. It may seem unthinkable but it happens and when a child goes missing the parents are often looked at very closely as likely suspects.
I think the McCann's case though I would go with it being an accidental killing. You just have to look at what they would have lost and what they gained from a cover up. Both of them would have been struck off the medical register and the other children taken into care. That is quite some motivation for a cover up there. The body could of course never be found if sedatives were involved in the accidental death because that would have showed on an autopsy. -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoMr_interesting_2011 wrote:
sniffer dogs only found the scent (of a dead body that is) in the apartment and hire car...
That was a very iffy bit of evidence that was considered inadmissible, wasn't it? -
"Criticism of the parents
The parents have been criticised for leaving their children alone while they ate at a nearby restaurant despite the availability of a babysitting service and a creche.[172][173] There has also been criticism of the parents in the Portuguese media. Diário de Notícias insisted that the McCanns were suspects and claimed that on the night Madeleine disappeared they had not checked on the children, contrary to what they told police.[174] The Daily Telegraph has reported "Portugal has been stung by suggestions that the investigation has been handled ineptly, and while there is much sympathy locally for the McCanns they have also been criticised for leaving their children alone."[175]
Police questioned the couple on 10 May 2007 about why the three children were left alone in an apartment, with the patio doors unlocked, while they dined at the restaurant.[28] In an interview with the BBC on 25 May, the McCanns acknowledged the criticism, and spoke of the guilt they felt.[176] In reply to questions posed to them on 6 June at a press conference in Germany, when radio reporter Sabina Müller suggested that their behaviour was not normal for people whose child had been abducted, they denied involvement in any abduction of their daughter.[177]
On the 10 Downing Street website a petition to the Prime Minister was started on 12 June requesting that Leicestershire Social Services fulfil their statutory obligation to investigate the circumstances which led to Madeleine and her siblings being left unattended in an unlocked, ground floor hotel room. In response, Leicestershire County Council said it was "discharging [its] duties in... a full and professional manner" but the family has declined to comment on the petition.[172] The petition was rapidly rejected, with the reason given being the language it contained.[178]
Following criticism in the Portuguese media of the behaviour of the McCanns, on 21 July 2007, the Crown Prosecution Service lawyers held "informal discussions" to consider whether any offence may have been committed under the Children and Young Persons Act 1933, which deals with ill-treatment, cruelty, neglect and abandonment of children under 16.[179] The family said the calls to prosecute the McCanns were hurtful and unhelpful.[180]
The lawyer of Robert Murat, Francisco Pagarete, criticised the McCanns in late November. He said that they "deserve to be cursed" for leaving their children alone.[181] Gonçalo Amaral, who had originally headed the police investigation, criticised the parents in his book Maddie, a Verdade da Mentira (Maddie, the Truth of the Lie), published on 24 July 2008.[182] A Portuguese judge issued an injunction, on 9 September 2009, that stopped further publication or sales of the book and also banned Amaral from repeating his claims.[183] The McCanns travelled to Portugal for Amaral's libel trial, but on 11 December 2009 it was postponed for a month due to his lawyer falling ill. The trial had originally coincided with the publication of a second book by Amaral, A Mordaça Inglesa (The English Gag).[184] The McCanns are also asking Amaral for 1.2 million euros in compensation for defamation.[185] On 19 October 2010, it was announced that the Court of Appeal had overturned the ban on Sr Amaral's book, which has now been returned to sale, stating that the ban had broken "a constitutional and universal right: that of opinion and freedom of expression."[186] -
Dolly 3,653 posts
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Registered 15 years agoLionheartDJH wrote:
Wasn't it on the coast though? Possibility she could have wandered onto the beach and been washed out by the tide?
It is a possibility, certainly. But you'd think that the sniffer dogs would still have found traces of her in the immediate resort and there is still the fact that she had to get out of a locked apartment on her own (which seems to be what everybody keeps propping their theories on). It's pretty hard to imagine a 3 year old unlocking and locking doors on her way out. -
Mr_interesting_2011 112 posts
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Registered 10 years agoChopsen wrote:
Mr_interesting_2011 wrote:
sniffer dogs only found the scent (of a dead body that is) in the apartment and hire car...
That was a very iffy bit of evidence that was considered inadmissible, wasn't it?
The same sniffer dogs had been used in multiple cases and had a great track record and accuracy - however evidence from sniffer dogs alone is not enough to build a case and with no body found or further evidence it would be inadmissible... -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoDolly wrote:
LionheartDJH wrote:
Wasn't it on the coast though? Possibility she could have wandered onto the beach and been washed out by the tide?
It is a possibility, certainly. But you'd think that the sniffer dogs would still have found traces of her in the immediate resort and there is still the fact that she had to get out of a locked apartment on her own (which seems to be what everybody keeps propping their theories on). It's pretty hard to imagine a 3 year old unlocking and locking doors on her way out.
Her scent would have been all over the place as she was staying there, so I don't think it's that simple. And you don't think a 3 year old could open a door? -
Mr_interesting_2011 112 posts
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Registered 10 years agoLook he is clearly lying...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5jtmkXXv58
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Dolly 3,653 posts
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Registered 15 years agoChopsen wrote:
Dolly wrote:
LionheartDJH wrote:
Wasn't it on the coast though? Possibility she could have wandered onto the beach and been washed out by the tide?
It is a possibility, certainly. But you'd think that the sniffer dogs would still have found traces of her in the immediate resort and there is still the fact that she had to get out of a locked apartment on her own (which seems to be what everybody keeps propping their theories on). It's pretty hard to imagine a 3 year old unlocking and locking doors on her way out.
Her scent would have been all over the place as she was staying there, so I don't think it's that simple. And you don't think a 3 year old could open a door?
With a key and lock it again on the other side was my point. -
glaeken 12,070 posts
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Registered 17 years agoIt's extremely unscientific but my gut feeling has always made me distrust the McCann's.
Something has always seemed off about them to me.
So there you go they must be guilty -
grey_matters 5,507 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThere are major discrepancies between some of the accounts if the facts on the ground in the posts in this thread. I've always thought an EGer could have been responsible, now I'm sure. But which one? -
Dolly 3,653 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI'll say me, before anyone else does! -
BreadBinLidHero 10,801 posts
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Registered 12 years agoOn another note I cannot understand people thinking that the mother is a MILF. She looks like Skeletor. -
Mr_interesting_2011 wrote:
Nervous laugh and he twitched his earlobe!!
Look he is clearly lying...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5jtmkXXv58
Case closed
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