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Conversely, I wonder if being left to your own devices made you insecure and weakened your ego. Like the rest of us who dossed on the streets most of their lives. /pop-psychology |
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morriss 71,293 posts
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DaM 17,729 posts
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Registered 20 years agoMy mum went back to work (as a teacher), when I was 9 I think...so I had to "supervise" my 7 and 5 year old sisters!
I'm trying to encourage my 7 yr old to start spreading his wings (eg going out on his bike), but very few of the other local parents are of the same view. I don't get what the worry is, kids have to learn about risk taking. Think of all the near-death experiences you had as a small boy - valuable learning! -
morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoAnyway, big difference between going out ot play in the afternoon when there lots of people around and daylight compared with being on your own at night-time in a foreign country with your parents 120 metres away. -
MetalDog 24,076 posts
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Registered 20 years ago@BinaryBob
The number of peados was about the same, I believe (I remember a guy offering me a tenner to go 'see some puppies', but years of warnings via parents and that mental fucking cat Charlie made me say no and remove myself from the scene). Most kids who are assaulted are assaulted by people they know - often by family members - always been that way, I think. -
ronuds 21,781 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI was never home when I was a kid. Always out and about playing sports and such.
These days kids are like little rats living in the attic - they never leave and you never see them. They also seem to be staying at home until a much later age than I ever would have dreamed of. -
BinaryBob101 27,755 posts
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Registered 12 years agoYeah, it was kind of a rhetorical question, but absolutely. -
morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoronuds wrote:
I don't see that at all.
I was never home when I was a kid. Always out and about playing sports and such.
These days kids are like little rats living in the attic - they never leave and you never see them. They also seem to be staying at home until a much later age than I ever would have dreamed of. -
BinaryBob101 27,755 posts
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Registered 12 years agoronuds wrote:
I was never home when I was a kid. Always out and about playing sports and such.
These days kids are like little rats living in the attic - they never leave and you never see them. They also seem to be staying at home until a much later age than I ever would have dreamed of.
That's as much down to finance issues as anything else though, eh? -
morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoAnyway, no we're over to the classic: I WAS FINE SO EVERYONE ELSE WILL BE, classic EG argumentation technique.
eg: I was abused as a child and now own my own business and am superrich and functional - SO THAT MEANS I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE UNSYMPATHETIC TO THOSE WHO HAVE PROBLEMS.
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Pac-man-ate-my-wife 7,087 posts
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Registered 18 years agoBinaryBob101 wrote:
Whilst I was working over the past few weeks, my Son, aged 12 was left to fend for himself between the hours of 4.00 and 5.30pm. During that time he'd take our Labrador out for a walk, empty the dishwasher and maybe either play football outside, or play a game of Fifa on our 360 until I got home.
Kids today are much more mature and should be more self-reliant than they were back when I was 12, imo. He can virtually look after himself regarding pretty much everything and can definitely manage himself safely. We trust him and it's a good experience to have whilst growing up.
In short, fuck the law.
I think that's fine. Below is what the NSPCC recommends which seems like common sense:
http://www.nspcc.org.uk/Inform/publications/home_alone_wda73922.html
There is no legal age at which children may be left home alone, but parents can be prosecuted for neglect if it puts them at risk of injury or suffering.
• Never leave your baby or young child home alone, not even for a few minutes, regardless of whether they are sleeping or awake. The risks and dangers are too great.
• If your child is under the age of about 12, they may not be mature enough to cope with an emergency. They should not be left alone for more than a very short time. And remember to put all obvious dangers out of reach before you go, such as medicines, matches and sharp objects.
• Even when leaving older children alone, make sure that they are happy about the arrangement and that the know how to contact the emergency services. Keep your mobile phone with you and make sure they know your number so they can call you if you’re needed.
• If your child is under the age of 16 they shouldn’t be left alone overnight. -
ronuds 21,781 posts
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Registered 15 years agoBinaryBob101 wrote:
ronuds wrote:
I was never home when I was a kid. Always out and about playing sports and such.
These days kids are like little rats living in the attic - they never leave and you never see them. They also seem to be staying at home until a much later age than I ever would have dreamed of.
That's as much down to finance issues as anything else though, eh?
Could be? It's just my personal experience - even some kids out of college (who are capable of making decent pay) stick around to their mid-to-late 20s. I was out of the house by 22.
And our parents were out by 18!
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BinaryBob101 27,755 posts
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Registered 12 years agoMORRISS DISAGREES WITH EVERYBODY SHOCKER! -
morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoPac-man-ate-my-wife wrote:
BinaryBob101 wrote:
Whilst I was working over the past few weeks, my Son, aged 12 was left to fend for himself between the hours of 4.00 and 5.30pm. During that time he'd take our Labrador out for a walk, empty the dishwasher and maybe either play football outside, or play a game of Fifa on our 360 until I got home.
Kids today are much more mature and should be more self-reliant than they were back when I was 12, imo. He can virtually look after himself regarding pretty much everything and can definitely manage himself safely. We trust him and it's a good experience to have whilst growing up.
In short, fuck the law.
I think that's fine. Below is what the NSPCC recommends which seems like common sense:
http://www.nspcc.org.uk/Inform/publications/home_alone_wda73922.html
There is no legal age at which children may be left home alone, but parents can be prosecuted for neglect if it puts them at risk of injury or suffering.
• Never leave your baby or young child home alone, not even for a few minutes, regardless of whether they are sleeping or awake. The risks and dangers are too great.
• If your child is under the age of about 12, they may not be mature enough to cope with an emergency. They should not be left alone for more than a very short time. And remember to put all obvious dangers out of reach before you go, such as medicines, matches and sharp objects.
• Even when leaving older children alone, make sure that they are happy about the arrangement and that the know how to contact the emergency services. Keep your mobile phone with you and make sure they know your number so they can call you if you’re needed.
• If your child is under the age of 16 they shouldn’t be left alone overnight.
What do they know?!?! WHEN I WAS YOUNG MY PARENTS BLAH BLAH BLAH.....gif)
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morriss 71,293 posts
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Registered 17 years agoBinaryBob101 wrote:
Just you and anyone one else trying to make themselves feel better about not looking after their children properly.
MORRISS DISAGREES WITH EVERYBODY SHOCKER!
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Genji 19,682 posts
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Registered 17 years agoActually, no, that was getting a bit gay. ahem. Nothing to see here! -
ronuds 21,781 posts
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Registered 15 years agomorriss wrote:
Anyway, no we're over to the classic: I WAS FINE SO EVERYONE ELSE WILL BE, classic EG argumentation technique.
eg: I was abused as a child and now own my own business and am superrich and functional - SO THAT MEANS I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE UNSYMPATHETIC TO THOSE WHO HAVE PROBLEMS.
The same shit for the last 7 years or so.
That's how a debate evolves and conclusions are reached.
One person says, "this happened, so that must be bad." And then another says, "could be, but I have personal experience that says otherwise."
Then you sometimes reach a concensus as to what the right thing is to do.
Rather than, "this happened, so that must be bad!" - nobody says otherwise, and then we all end up paranoid about a one-time incident, then proclaiming it's the end of the world as we know it. -
MetalDog 24,076 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI don't think anyone's actually saying that, morriss.
Personally I think it's a difficult thing for parents these days - there is a trade off between safety and growth and the line between the two isn't a definite one. I learned a lot about independence and confidence while off out playing, but I did up my chances of being injured or killed in the process - some of the things we used to do for fun were retarded =D
The vilification of parents whenever they attempt to opt for the 'growth' side of the line really doesn't help. Also, in the 70's/early 80's there was a much better community network - everyone knew everyone else in their immediate living vicinity, everyone watched out for (and grassed up) each others kids and there's a fuck of a lot less traffic. People are much more isolated these days, I think. Paranoia is a somewhat natural response.
You also have that weird thing now where a lot of parents won't admit their kids can be shits =/ I don't really understand how that came about. Used to be if you did something mean or stupid and your parents found out about it, you got yelled at. Now if you point out someone's kid is being a spacker, you get yelled at more often than not. Don't understand that at all. -
ronuds 21,781 posts
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Registered 15 years agoIs it really that expensive to rent an apartment? I don't know why kids would want to stay home, tbh. I couldn't wait to leave. And then of course I missed the comforts of home.
As for playing outside... I dunno. There still seems to be plenty to do while keeping out of trouble. For example, the kids down the street from me have a basketball hoop in their driveway. I'll be damned if I've seen them use it more than once, though. -
CosmicFuzz 32,632 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI'm 24, 25 in October. I still stay at home. Reason being financial. Just finished uni, and can't afford to move out.
Although I start working next month, yes I could rent a place, but I'd rather buy somewhere. I'm fine to stay at home another year and save up. Plenty of my friends are doing the same. -
Dolly 3,653 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThe recession saw a massive increase in people staying at/moving back home. It's all pretty logical really.
As much as I could never live under someone elses roof again (paranoid stealth wanks ftl), I'd be rich as fook if I'd have stayed at home a few more years (left at 18). -
MetalDog 24,076 posts
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Registered 20 years agoIf I'd known at 16 what I know now, I would have stuck closer to home for a bit longer, yeah =/
Mind you, the way my family imploded, it probably wouldn't have made any difference! -
WoodenSpoon 12,360 posts
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Registered 19 years agoIt's pretty expensive to rent. If you've come out of uni and in to a 'stop-gap' job rather than on to a grad scheme or something decent then you'll probably have around £100 extra a week if you're living at home. -
Psychotext 70,652 posts
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Registered 15 years agoDolly wrote:
Did you not have locks... or were you wanking in the living room or something?
As much as I could never live under someone elses roof again (paranoid stealth wanks ftl)
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Dolly 3,653 posts
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Registered 15 years agoPsychotext wrote:
Dolly wrote:
Did you not have locks... or were you wanking in the living room or something?
As much as I could never live under someone elses roof again (paranoid stealth wanks ftl)
No, I just meant that when I was wanking my mum off in her sleep, I'd always feel paranoid that it was wrong somehow? -
Psychotext 70,652 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI could see that. -
Khanivor 44,800 posts
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Registered 20 years agoSo you've been at this for a long time then, psycho? -
Ged42 7,985 posts
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Registered 14 years agoKhanivor wrote:
So you've been at this for a long time then, psycho?
What do you think the NV goggles were originally for?
/shakes image away
Anyway, I've not been strict on my stepson going out now that he's teenager, but he doesn't seem to want to and it's not like he's a norman no-mates that wants spends all his time on the PC/PS3 like me. If anything he seems afraid to go into town, not of the ever present PAEDO ON EVERY STREET, but other kids. Who apparently (according to the news) will stab him for just wearing the wrong brand of clothes. I've tried to explain to him that the news tends to make stuff like paedos and teens armed to the teeth, far more widespread than it actually is, but I'm not sure it got through.
There's also the problem, that at their age there's not a lot for them to do. Cinema are too expensive, playgrounds are for babies, shopping is for girls. It's much better to stay home and chat to all his mates on Facebook or PSN Chat. -
Kids don't actually see their friends in person anymore?
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