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  • Peew971 3 Jul 2008 11:25:03 7,268 posts
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    CaptainBinky wrote:
    It's Stephen King is it?

    So is it aliens, monsters, or a Fire King?
    Some creatures coming from another dimension through a portal open by the army. lol.
    Seriously, I'm not joking.
  • CaptainBinky 3 Jul 2008 11:31:38 2,243 posts
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    Good God.
  • sport 3 Jul 2008 11:32:40 17,064 posts
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    I thought it was an excellent adaptation - the novella is amazing and the ending much better - if I remember correctly, doesn't he hear a voice repeating a location softly on a CB radio in the supermarket before heading off (but doesn't tell the rest)
  • Peew971 3 Jul 2008 11:40:10 7,268 posts
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    sport wrote:
    I thought it was an excellent adaptation - the novella is amazing and the ending much better - if I remember correctly, doesn't he hear a voice repeating a location softly on a CB radio in the supermarket before heading off (but doesn't tell the rest)
    Yep, I posted a video of the book's ending earlier.
    From various forums I notice that those who have read the book hate the ending. The book's ending is on Youtube but it's just to simple/convenient for my taste. Hope? What kind of shit ending is an ending with nothing happening but hope? With the film's ending (as I see it) you're given the opportunity to reflect on choices and consequences, right and wrong... For me it's not about the army saving the day (seriously, who cares?), it's all about the irony. The guy kills his son to spare him a terrible death and realises he's done it for nothing! The woman than nobody would help at the beginning ends up being alive... There's a lot to discuss there other than the army saving the day, that wasn't the point of that ending.
  • Mike_Hunt 3 Jul 2008 11:43:01 23,524 posts
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    Yeah... because the ending where he shoots his son in his face because he runs out of fuel is just amazing*

    *lie

    [MH]
  • Deleted user 3 July 2008 11:49:39
    Supposedly Stephen King said that the ending in the film is better than the one he had written in the book.
  • sport 3 Jul 2008 11:56:13 17,064 posts
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    Physically_Insane wrote:
    Supposedly Stephen King said that the ending in the film is better than the one he had written in the book.

    :-)
  • MetalDog 3 Jul 2008 12:00:34 24,076 posts
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    The woman who no one would help ending up being alive negates the whole truth of the scene where she's asking for help. She thinks she'll die out there, but goes anyway to save her kids. Everyone else is just afraid enough to let her do it alone, even while denying the problem. Having her turn up at the end was piss weak.
  • Peew971 3 Jul 2008 12:02:40 7,268 posts
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    sport wrote:
    Physically_Insane wrote:
    Supposedly Stephen King said that the ending in the film is better than the one he had written in the book.

    :-)
    He did love it. Proof.
  • MetalDog 3 Jul 2008 12:04:04 24,076 posts
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    Yeah, but Stephen's always had really shit taste in movies.
  • M83J01P97 3 Jul 2008 14:00:16 7,607 posts
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    Yeah, disowning The Shining after it was finished, only to later embrace it as "the best movie based on a book ever!" once it went on to gain a lot of critical acclaim, kind of ruined any opinion King has on movies in my opinion.
  • MetalDog 3 Jul 2008 14:07:33 24,076 posts
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    I don't think he ever liked Kubrick's version, but he had to stop dissing it to get the rights to film his own version, I think. Not so much a change of opinion as a change of policy.
  • M83J01P97 3 Jul 2008 14:12:54 7,607 posts
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    He basically disowned the film after it was completed, but then did a complete u-turn (at least publicly) once people started praising it.

    There is a really cringe-worthy interview with King on the R1 DVD of The Shining where you can tell he's giving out a lot of false praise for the film.
  • CaptainBinky 3 Jul 2008 14:22:38 2,243 posts
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    I really like that myth* where it's said that Stephen King found his dad's (or grandad's or something) unfinished novels in the attic, and wrote endings for them. Neatly explains why all Stephen King's long novels are 2/3rds brill, with a totally naff ending.

    *I choose to totally believe it in spite of it blatantly being untrue.
  • MetalDog 3 Jul 2008 14:26:43 24,076 posts
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    You really shouldn't publically diss things make from rights you've sold anyway. Unless you had no choice in the matter via lousy contract or something.
  • Tremendosaurus 3 Jul 2008 14:59:22 1,194 posts
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    King = nobblet.

    He writes good stories, but I don't ever want to see his fuck-ugly face or hear him speak. Stick to what you're good at I say.
  • MetalDog 3 Jul 2008 15:00:59 24,076 posts
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    Harsh - I rather like him from what I've seen/heard of him. Seems like an okay chap with just the occasional wig-out.
  • sport 3 Jul 2008 15:13:48 17,064 posts
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    MetalDog wrote:
    Harsh - I rather like him from what I've seen/heard of him. Seems like an okay chap with just the occasional wig-out.

    +1

    seems like a good enough bloke - better than Stan Lee with his incessant cameos
  • Deleted user 3 July 2008 15:19:26
    Say what you will about the man, but his book on writing is one of the best things ever written about the subject (in my opinion, at least).
  • Deleted user 13 July 2008 16:59:04
    Loved it.

    What ? No spoliers ?
  • Max_Powers 13 Jul 2008 17:49:43 1,256 posts
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    I thought the film was ok.

    The ending could have worked if they would have allowed more time to pass between running out of gas and him killing everybody. Let the desperation build. Also, did he line them up neatly or something, because the shots are in such quick succession. You would take your time to make sure 1 bullet would kill them right?

    Plus it needed way more time between that and the army showing up. Now it just felt like a cruel joke.

    /Nelsons voice

    Haha!
  • Scimarad 13 Jul 2008 18:08:11 9,964 posts
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    Peew971 wrote:
    CaptainBinky wrote:
    It's Stephen King is it?

    So is it aliens, monsters, or a Fire King?
    Some creatures coming from another dimension through a portal open by the army. lol.
    Seriously, I'm not joking.

    What's so horrible about that? Perfectly good SF plot, I think!
  • Huntcjna 14 Jul 2008 16:02:20 13,890 posts
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    I thought it was great, good central performances (especially Mrs Carmody) and a superb ending in my view.

    Max add some spoiler tags to your post your going to ruin peoples viewing you numpty!
  • OllyJ 20 Jul 2008 08:37:03 4,866 posts
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    Watched this last night, I thought it was absolutely brilliant for what it is. Probably one of the better worlds ending films. The actual end was amazing, so brutal, the missus was proper upset by it, it was tears till right after the credits had finished!

    Loved it!!!!!!!!!!
  • OllyJ 20 Jul 2008 08:37:27 4,866 posts
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    oh and very Lovecraft Cthulu wasn't it!
  • OllyJ 20 Jul 2008 08:48:38 4,866 posts
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    Peew971 wrote:
    From various forums I notice that those who have read the book hate the ending. The book's ending is on Youtube but it's just to simple/convenient for my taste. Hope? What kind of shit ending is an ending with nothing happening but hope? With the film's ending (as I see it) you're given the opportunity to reflect on choices and consequences, right and wrong... For me it's not about the army saving the day (seriously, who cares?), it's all about the irony. The guy kills his son to spare him a terrible death and realises he's done it for nothing! The woman than nobody would help at the beginning ends up being alive... There's a lot to discuss there other than the army saving the day, that wasn't the point of that ending.
    Yes i'm in 100% agreement there, the Army rolling in was basically just a massive "what have I done!!!!", it was such a bleak ending.
  • Scimarad 20 Jul 2008 09:08:15 9,964 posts
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    The book ending isn't hope at all if you've actually read the book and not based all you opinions on a bloody fan edit.

    The major objection to the film is that it pummels you over the head with things that the books leaves up to you imagination. Not to mention it adds absolutey fucking stupid things like that woman who went to look for kids turning up at the end for no apparent reason and against all logic, the bug NOT stinging Carmody just to hint she's correct, Davids wife being definitely dead, the MPs saying "Yes! We DID open an interdimensional portal" rather than that being just one idea and most of all, the fact that mist is cleared up at the end and the army appear.

    One of the best things about the book is that something apparently incomprehensible has happened and possibly fucked over the entire planet. You (or the characters) are never given the comfort of any kind of certainty. One of the characters thinks he hears something on the radio but that's about it. Stephen King himself did try to make it sound a tad more hopeful in latter versions of the story but I'll always go by the original...

    That's why the film ending sucked...that and the godawful timing!
  • OllyJ 20 Jul 2008 09:54:25 4,866 posts
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    oh well you don't like it so fair enough, I thought it was a great ending, probably the bleakest i've seen since Chan Park Wook unleashed Sympathy for Mr Vengeance.

    I really loved everything about the ending, plus I totally felt that what the army had done "was" messing over the entire planet, it was really a fucked up mess, the fact the Army rolled in would have been totally shit had he not just made the decision he had, but because of what he did it made the army coming in rather ngeative.

    It definately wasn't trying to say "hooorah US Army kicks ASS!", it was trying to show how in one moment everything is so fucked up he'd literally shoot his only son and then the moment hope arrives it's absolutely devastating.

    To me that's more powerful than "ooooh I wonder what it is...did they survive....how scary!"


    each to thier own though
  • FixedInfinity 21 Jul 2008 00:14:53 1,682 posts
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    I believe the film taught a valuable lesson.
    In the event of a catastrophe, shoot the religious nut and then have a nice cup of tea and wait for the whole thing to blow over. .
  • Deleted user 21 July 2008 00:15:45
    How's that for a slice of fried gold?
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