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  • pjmaybe 21 Apr 2004 12:22:33 70,666 posts
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    Hrmm cheers Lou. It looks like whatever I go for it's going to lag its arse off slightly, unless I spend serious amounts of money on a Digital SLR.

    Peej
  • ssuellid 21 Apr 2004 12:27:23 19,142 posts
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    pjmaybe wrote:
    Ssuellid, you might be able to answer this one. How quick is the canon's shutter speed, as I'm quite interested in it - but want to know if you get a bit of lag between clicking the shutter and it actually taking the pic...

    There is a slight delay but its not a lot compared to other digital cameras apparently. It is noticable tho and takes a bit of time to get used to.

    UncleLou I have this charger: -

    http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=91413

    Its quick, its has a car adapter, it'll charge any AA and its tiny. The link has a bundle with the batteries I have. Basically the bigger the mah figure the longer the batteries last. 2300 was the best available last year.

    They also sell rubberised compact flash and battery holders. The battery holders stop them shorting out and the cf holders float etc.
  • pjmaybe 21 Apr 2004 12:29:12 70,666 posts
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    Arr cheers both, that's sort of the answer I was looking for. I'm looking for something that'll snap a moving object without me having to compensate too much.

    Oh well, I guess I'll have to just make do with my old fashioned Pentax film camera.

    /dons bearskin, clubs wife on head, goes back to cave

    Peej
  • Deleted user 21 April 2004 12:39:37
    I'd love to buy the Nikon D70 but because I have two Minolta lens' and will be buying many more over the next few months it makes sense to wait for their DSLR. It's not a prosumer model so I'll have to save even more pennies! The good thing is that it is the first SLR with built in anti-shake. Minolta have always been pretty innovative.
  • UncleLou Moderator 21 Apr 2004 12:40:01 40,723 posts
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    Excellent, cheers ssuellid, that's exactly the sort of info I was looking for! And that shop is really cheap, gotta see if I can find something comparable hereabouts (it looks like they are UK-only, but I haven't looked properly yet).
  • jaa 21 Apr 2004 12:43:41 962 posts
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    UncleLou: what, even an Xbox?!


    pjmaybe wrote:
    Arr cheers both, that's sort of the answer I was looking for. I'm looking for something that'll snap a moving object without me having to compensate too much.

    Oh well, I guess I'll have to just make do with my old fashioned Pentax film camera.

    /dons bearskin, clubs wife on head, goes back to cave

    Peej

    I'm still using Pentax film cameras too (and they're great).

    /puts newspaper down, points Peej's wife and says to his own wife: "You see - and you still complain, woman!"; raises paper again
  • pjmaybe 21 Apr 2004 12:45:16 70,666 posts
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    My old Pentax is nearly 20 years old, but it's still a lovely camera and great for all those arty farty shots. Looks like it's been through a warzone now though..

    Guess I'll stick with that until something decently priced and digital comes along then.

    Peej
  • UncleLou Moderator 21 Apr 2004 12:58:01 40,723 posts
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    To be honest, I am still a bit sceptcial as well, but like I said, I never take my SLR with me, so the alternative to a digicam for me is to not take any pictures at all. Let's see how I get along with it.

    I'd guess the lag is something you'll get used to, unless all you want to do with your camera is take pictures of hyperactive kids. :-P

    Edited by UncleLou at 11:58:20 21-04-2004
  • cyk 21 Apr 2004 14:20:45 306 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    I've ordered the Canon Powershot A 70 now - 219 EUR at amazon.de, that's not quite 150 quid.

    So, cyk, there's yet another person who got the A 70 after seeing your portfolio (and reading some reviews, just to make sure), cheers! :-)

    /adds to ego.txt :D Wish I was a Canon reseller tbh, I'd probably have a 10D by now.

    There is a lag on the A70, and thats one of the features I like about the Nikon D70, instant startup. I don't think I've missed any shots per say, but I wouldn't want to miss one because the camera was booting up.
  • ssuellid 21 Apr 2004 14:23:51 19,142 posts
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    cyk wrote:
    There is a lag on the A70, and thats one of the features I like about the Nikon D70, instant startup.

    I think everyone else meant the lag from pressing the 'shoot' button and the picture being taken. Not the time for the camera to start up.

    Which, from what I've been told, is a problem for all digital cameras including the pro ones.

    BTW. Current lag on decent digital cameras is usually about 1/10th to a 1/12th of a second.

    Edited by ssuellid at 13:29:51 21-04-2004
  • sheepfish 21 Apr 2004 14:42:14 1,168 posts
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    pjmaybe wrote:
    Hrmm cheers Lou. It looks like whatever I go for it's going to lag its arse off slightly, unless I spend serious amounts of money on a Digital SLR.

    Peej

    I read some where authorative that some breakthrough has occurred and digital SLR's will become much more comon and much sheaper quite soon. Will try and dig out the article.
  • jaa 21 Apr 2004 14:49:32 962 posts
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    ssuellid wrote:
    cyk wrote:
    There is a lag on the A70, and thats one of the features I like about the Nikon D70, instant startup.

    I think everyone else meant the lag from pressing the 'shoot' button and the picture being taken. Not the time for the camera to start up.

    Which, from what I've been told, is a problem for all digital cameras including the pro ones.

    BTW. Current lag on decent digital cameras is usually about 1/10th to a 1/12th of a second.

    Edited by ssuellid at 13:29:51 21-04-2004

    Yes and no, ssuellid. There is a lag but most digital SLRs are quite fast when starting up. Example for Pentax *ist D (owning several Pentax lenses and a flash, I'd love one but it's still too expensive).

    cyk: somehow, it doesn't seem right to compare a 220 EUR camera with a 1500 EUR camera... but I'm sure the D70 is a great camera.
  • ssuellid 21 Apr 2004 14:50:58 19,142 posts
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    jaa, go back and read the other posts in the forum. We were on about shutter lag.

    edit - and thats what I meant as being a problem for all cameras - not start up time.

    Edited by ssuellid at 13:53:01 21-04-2004
  • cyk 21 Apr 2004 14:55:30 306 posts
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    ssuellid wrote:
    cyk wrote:
    There is a lag on the A70, and thats one of the features I like about the Nikon D70, instant startup.

    I think everyone else meant the lag from pressing the 'shoot' button and the picture being taken. Not the time for the camera to start up.

    Which, from what I've been told, is a problem for all digital cameras including the pro ones.

    BTW. Current lag on decent digital cameras is usually about 1/10th to a 1/12th of a second.

    Edited by ssuellid at 13:29:51 21-04-2004

    Ah my bad. This review gives info on the lag for the £1000 odd models. Like you said, its only 0.12 seconds, but still there.
  • cyk 21 Apr 2004 14:57:42 306 posts
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    jaa wrote:
    cyk: somehow, it doesn't seem right to compare a 220 EUR camera with a 1500 EUR camera... but I'm sure the D70 is a great camera.

    True. I was just comparing them because I have the A70, and I'm saving for the D70 :) Currently all the models in the same price range all have a 2 second startup delay, thats why I'm choosing the D70.
  • pjmaybe 21 Apr 2004 15:00:44 70,666 posts
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    Start up time would also be an issue for me, as a lot of the shots I want to take involve seeing cars driving down the street and snapping photos of them, for my slightly retarded turd-polisher's website.

    So I guess if I have to wait 5 seconds for the thing to get its act together that ain't gonna be any good for me.

    Just played with a Canon S50, bloody lovely little camera, not too bad lag-wise, instant start up by drawing the lens cover back, nice features, 5.2 Mp..

    Out of my price range though at £550 quid

    Peej
  • jaa 21 Apr 2004 15:19:00 962 posts
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    ssuellid: I knew that.

    "I think everyone else meant the lag from pressing the 'shoot' button and the picture being taken. Not the time for the camera to start up.

    Which, from what I've been told, is a problem for all digital cameras including the pro ones."


    I just thought that "which" referred to the start up time issue.


    Anyhow, an excerpt from another review (here):

    "If you're paying big bucks for a D-SLR, you do it with the expectation that there will be no shutter lag. And good news -- there isn't any on the *ist D, even at slower shutter speeds."

    Although this is probably not entirely true. It is fair to assume that 1/10th to 1/12th of a second delay you mentioned is there, only not that noticeable.
  • cyk 16 Jun 2004 17:07:41 306 posts
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    Oh in the end, I bought a Canon 10D over the D70.
  • Shivoa 16 Jun 2004 18:29:10 6,314 posts
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    And I'm very happy with the Sony DSC-P72. Does everything I could want from it and according to the reviews (on places like IR) if I do want a bit more work out of it then it should also work.
  • Khanivor 16 Jun 2004 18:31:50 44,800 posts
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    I got a Canon S400 for me 30th the other week. It's a really sweet little camera, smae size as a pack of fags, and can take video with sound in 3 minute slices.

    I boughtit off a Canadina trader on Ebay. It is a refurb, but as I got it for £250 including all shipping and duties, and it came with a case and a 256MB CF card I reckon I have gotten an absolute bargain.
  • Aga 16 Jun 2004 18:51:59 2,148 posts
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    I was looking for a camera and quite liked the features and looks of the Canon A80 or the Ixus 430. Anyone had any experience with those?
  • Khanivor 16 Jun 2004 18:54:59 44,800 posts
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    The S400 is the equivalnet of the IXUS 400. It's bloody lovely.
  • Aga 16 Jun 2004 19:08:52 2,148 posts
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    Ah yeah, I read somewhere its branded differently "over there", so if you got it from Canada, makes sense =)
  • cyk 16 Jun 2004 21:56:39 306 posts
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    I had the A70 which is just as good as the A80 feature wise. Its a fantastic camera, just check my portfolio and I'm sure you'll be happy with one :)
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