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  • rice_sandwich 28 Jan 2020 08:14:57 6,426 posts
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    I don't see Federer winning another slam at his age - he's more of a qf or sf slam player these days. Nadal will probably overtake him to become greatest of all time but I don't think that tarnishes his legacy as a great player. He does seem to be a bad loser at times though.

    Edited by rice_sandwich at 08:15:55 28-01-2020
  • DangerousDave_87 28 Jan 2020 08:15:11 6,811 posts
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    @Mola_Ram That's a double edged sword, though. Not having to worry, but not necessarily having the same motivation or drive either. He's still capable of playing some fantastic tennis, but he's nowhere near his most ruthless. Still great fun to watch, though.

    Edited by DangerousDave_87 at 08:20:15 28-01-2020
  • Mola_Ram 28 Jan 2020 08:17:36 23,552 posts
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    I've never understood the "bad loser" thing about him. The guy keeps his emotions locked up while he's playing, and they all come out afterwards, sometimes through tears. That's not the same as being a prat about it.
  • Mola_Ram 28 Jan 2020 08:19:57 23,552 posts
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    DangerousDave_87 wrote:
    @Mola_Ram That's a double edged sword, though. Not having to worry, but not necessarily having the same motivation or drive either. He's still capable of playing some fantastic tennis, but he's nowhere near his most ruthless. Still great fun to watch, though.
    Yeah, but he's still world number 3, so clearly there's some drive still there.

    I wouldn't mind him winning another Slam, but at this point I don't think it really matters.

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 08:25:25 28-01-2020
  • rice_sandwich 28 Jan 2020 08:21:23 6,426 posts
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    @Mola_Ram

    I don't think it's that he behaves like Kyrgios or S.Williams (on occasion), just that he has at times appeared to be be ungracious or not acknowledging a superior opponent. Though to be fair these perceptions are based only on soundbites or edited clips so could be out of context. And I don't suppose players are in the best of moods after losing.
  • DangerousDave_87 28 Jan 2020 08:21:55 6,811 posts
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    If you could just fix my typo in your quote of my post. ;)
  • Mola_Ram 28 Jan 2020 08:24:47 23,552 posts
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    I guess my standards for "sore loser" have changed a bit after the era of Kyrgios and Tomic - Tomic once blamed a loss on him having to stay up late - but to me Federer has usually seemed pretty gracious in defeat. But I haven't seen all his press conferences, so I don't really know I suppose.
  • DangerousDave_87 28 Jan 2020 08:33:16 6,811 posts
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    He did have a big temper in the years before his defeat of Pete Sampras, which I think is well documented, but he clearly went through a lot of work to get that under control. A proper racquet smasher at one point, though.
  • Mola_Ram 28 Jan 2020 08:35:49 23,552 posts
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    DangerousDave_87 wrote:
    He did have a big temper in the years before his defeat of Pete Sampras, which I think is well documented, but he clearly went through a lot of work to get that under control. A proper racquet smasher at one point, though.
    Yeah, I know that. But I'm not going to hold that against him if it happened like a decade and a half ago. People grow.

    Hell, I might even start liking Kyrgios if he manages to keep not being a shit after his probation ends.
  • rice_sandwich 28 Jan 2020 08:45:09 6,426 posts
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    Perhaps Kyrgios will win multiple slams after the big 3 retire and become a pantomime villain of sorts. Being a great player doesn't necessarily mean you have to be likeable. Djokovic suffers from that - he's really good but doesn't appear to be very popular.
  • neems 28 Jan 2020 08:49:22 4,823 posts
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    @rice_sandwich

    The problem with Djokovic is that he desperately wants to be adored, to the extent that it puts people off.
  • Mola_Ram 28 Jan 2020 08:50:42 23,552 posts
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    I'd rather Kyrgios do a Hewitt and grow up, personally. I guess it's just a personal preference, but I can do without tennis players throwing tantrums.

    At any rate, his attitude problem isn't just him being a dick. It's his (lack of) motivation, and his tendency to sulk and get hung up on failures. Both of which he's improving on (though it's only been 6 months since the big meltdown), but there's a long way to go.

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 08:51:01 28-01-2020
  • dominalien 29 Jan 2020 11:22:42 9,549 posts
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    Great Nadal/Thiem match going on right now. I havenít seen Thiem play recently and heís now awesome!
  • senso-ji 29 Jan 2020 11:27:06 10,085 posts
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    Thiem has been good for a few years. I thought he was more of a clay court specialist, as he's been to the French Open final twice, but it looks like he's transitioned well onto hard court. Great to see.
  • Jono62 29 Jan 2020 12:17:23 24,841 posts
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    I'm team Thiem. Be good to see someone else win.
  • Mola_Ram 31 Jan 2020 10:52:42 23,552 posts
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    The Thiem/Zverev match has been pretty good so far!
  • Mola_Ram 2 Feb 2020 11:22:44 23,552 posts
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    Damn, Djokovic isn't playing so well. Way more unforced errors than usual.
  • Jono62 2 Feb 2020 11:42:01 24,841 posts
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    I see he was 'injured' and is now better.
  • Mola_Ram 2 Feb 2020 11:43:27 23,552 posts
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    Wrist strain from the extra ball bouncing?
  • Jono62 2 Feb 2020 11:48:59 24,841 posts
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    He was limping around at the end of the third set.
  • Mola_Ram 2 Feb 2020 12:47:23 23,552 posts
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    Awww, that was disappointing. The deserved result - he plays like a machine under pressure - but still disappointing.
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