Quality rant smoothpete.  The 5D MkII's video quality is good alright, but I'm guessing an SLR camera is missing too much specialised functionality to be of use to most professional video production companies. No motorised zoom, no frame-rate options, basic audio recording and connectivity, unsuitable ergonomics, unwieldly focus and image control behaviour, etc. See [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBRaUcmXdWE">here for an example of what an SD camcorder for around the same price can do. What the D90 and 5D MkII should do is force video camera manufacturers to make more inexpensvie, better-quailty devices. Full convergence between still and motion cameras is obviously unnecessary for most professionals. What's odd about the situation, as pointed out by that |
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Ares 1,818 posts
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skuzzbag 5,950 posts
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Registered 17 years agowell it is 1080 hidef. Wouldn't use it myself but i can see hiw it would be useful for some -
deem 31,667 posts
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Registered 18 years agoIt's going to be absolutely perfect for us as far as I can tell. We don't have lighting or the knowledge to use it, so I'm assuming we will get away with natural light indoors at high ISO, and be able to play around with the wide range of lenses we have. We intend to put 2 and a half thousand cocktails online, being made and prepared - and I'm hoping this will enable us to do it without any external help or costs. -
smoothpete 37,743 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI watched that video at home, it's really very impressive indeed.
I have a few questions about image stabilization and things. If your lens in non-IS, is there anything built into the camera to help? I would imagine that you'd need a steadycam rig to do any kind of tracking shots. -
ram 3,598 posts
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Registered 16 years agoHarry wrote:
ayrtonsenna wrote:
prawnking wrote:
You'd better watch this then!
Is that not just sales talk? I really doubt something designed to be a still camera can produce such good film.
/cynical
o_O
Bloody hell.
That is impressive. Not sure I'll be sticking my camera on the bonnet of my car though. Bit noisy when he pans across NY from the helicopter but still impressive. I liked the fact that the credits roll almost as long as the film. Got to love film makers and their credits. -
smoothpete 37,743 posts
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Registered 17 years agoAlso how does autofocus work? Autofocus would look unnatural actually, you'd need to do manual. But if you had to do manual, you'd need one of those old school SLR focussing screens. I guess. -
ram 3,598 posts
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Registered 16 years agoAll that video shows is how good the quality is, for all we know the film maker could have been going blue in the face setting up each shot. Will be interesting to read how easy (or not) it is to use. -
Jos 712 posts
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Registered 20 years agoThe making of video was interesting when you see the difference in low light image quality between the 5DII and the vid cam capturing the behind the scenes stuff.
Been really impressed by what has been put up on the web so far about the 5D. Didn't think the video would be anything like as good or as usable as this!
But it is going to need some decent lenses
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clockworkzombie 429 posts
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Registered 15 years agoWhen Laforet replied to somebody in his blog he said IS does not work in a helicopter anyway.
The body does not have IS and autofocus does not work, you really do not want autofocus anyway.
Awesome video though, one of my friends is planning to sell lots of stuff to finance the purchase. -
ayrtonsenna 1,566 posts
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Registered 14 years agoPlenty of hand wringing about the frame rate though which is 30p and not 24p which apparently makes it useless for a lot of people, not sure why though. -
ayrtonsenna 1,566 posts
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Registered 14 years agoApparently going from 30p to 24p is a nightmare. -
Jos 712 posts
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Registered 20 years agoStorm in a teacup about that if you ask me - unless you are planning on a cinema release or blu-ray.
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ayrtonsenna 1,566 posts
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Registered 14 years agoWell you know what the internets are like! -
smoothpete 37,743 posts
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Registered 17 years agoayrtonsenna wrote:
Serious business, the internets.
Well you know what the internets are like! -
ayrtonsenna 1,566 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI may invest. boo.com sounds promising. -
List price
(body only)
• US: $ 2,699
• EU: € 2,499
• UK: £ 2,299
List price
(EF 24-105 L kit)
• US: $ 3,499
• EU: € 3,299
• UK: £ 3,049
bit of a markup for the uk
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smoothpete 37,743 posts
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ram 3,598 posts
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Registered 16 years agoanyone know the Asian price? I'll probably get mine from Hong Kong. Selling a Canon 20D and a Sony HD video camera shortly if anyone is interested. -
smoothpete wrote:
The US prices don't include tax, according to some dude on flickr
the american price is without sales tax as it varies from state to state but even taking that into account the price is still far higher in the uk -
ayrtonsenna 1,566 posts
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terminalterror 18,932 posts
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Registered 20 years agoEl_MUERkO wrote:
List price
(body only)
• US: $ 2,699
• EU: € 2,499
• UK: £ 2,299
bit of a markup for the uk
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The US prices don't include tax, according to some dude on flickr
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ram 3,598 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI've had a sniff around and the cheapest UK price I can find is £1799, which is pretty good. A company called RGB-tech, never heard of them. Dabs.com have it at £1959.
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ayrtonsenna 1,566 posts
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Registered 14 years agoAnother user report:
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ram 3,598 posts
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Registered 16 years agoLooks like 3rd December is the UK release date for this. Well that's when Park Cameras have offered me to attend their "truly unique" launch event anyway.
More bollocks from the invite...
"A camera of such magnitude deserves an event to match and we feel we have exactly what is required"
"At just £15 to attend one of the talks we hope you share in our belief that this is truly not a day to be missed"
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ayrtonsenna 1,566 posts
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Registered 14 years ago£15!!! -
Tomo 19,566 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI echo that statement.
£15!!! -
ram 3,598 posts
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Registered 16 years agofunny you picked up on the £15 entry price and not the new messiah bit, which I made up. -
Tomo 19,566 posts
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Registered 18 years agoSounds like the usual PR guff ;] -
ayrtonsenna 1,566 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI still want one though. Can't wait to see how it compares to the D3/D700 sensor. It won't be long before the low light performance is so good you'll be able to leave the lens cap on 
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gasp, I've bought one. I've been watching the price for a couple of weeks and it is slowly increasing and I decided to take the plunge.
I found it for a good price and took a (slightly risky) punt for it. I've never heard of the shop before, but I paid by VISA credit so should be protected.
to get the best of it...
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