Demon's Souls Page 561

  • Deleted user 31 January 2018 10:06:43
    5-2 almost killed my PS3
  • quadfather 31 Jan 2018 10:06:57 39,069 posts
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    Did some more in 1-2 last night, leveled up a bit more and ready to go now. Can feel it getting it's claws into me again.
  • Deleted user 31 January 2018 10:11:36
    robc84 wrote:
    Bloodborne is less like that, but there is one particular shortcut that is damn impressive.
    That moment was utterly mindblowing. Like the church lift on steroids.
  • OllyJ 31 Jan 2018 10:18:20 4,866 posts
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    quadfather wrote:
    Did some more in 1-2 last night, leveled up a bit more and ready to go now. Can feel it getting it's claws into me again.
    So do you just do everything in order or go do what you can in each world until you can manage it?
  • quadfather 31 Jan 2018 10:32:21 39,069 posts
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    It's entirely up to you.

    For me, it depends. If I'm making a dex or magic character, I do 1-1 as per normal, but then go immediately to 4-1 and make a suicide dash for the crescent falchion, as it suits those build really well. Then I normally go straight to world 2 and have a crack at that.

    However, this is a strength build, so I'm not exactly sure. I've leveled up the winged spear for now, but I need to work out what weapon I want and then plan it all out.

    You can do all the 1-1, 2-1, 3-1, 4-1 and 5-1 worlds from the off, but 4-1 and 5-1 will be tricky. As is 3-1 really.

    You can't get to the 1-3 area until you've beaten an Archdemon, so that's a bit of a route to plan out. An Archdemon is classed as any final boss in worlds 2 to 5.

    I also need to read up again on what the boss souls can be forged into to see if I can craft a decent strength weapon. It's been a while.
  • robc84 31 Jan 2018 10:49:21 15,553 posts
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    @quadfather

    I think the large club is in 2-1. Or some kind of club anyway :)
  • quadfather 31 Jan 2018 10:54:10 39,069 posts
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    Hm, yeah, could use a club...

    So many options :)
  • Deleted user 31 January 2018 10:57:32
    Blueblood sword, every time.
  • quadfather 31 Jan 2018 11:02:05 39,069 posts
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    Takes too damn long to create though

    Not that I can remember how to do it, mind
  • robc84 31 Jan 2018 11:12:19 15,553 posts
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    Has anyone ever defeated Doran? I never have. Tough bastard.
  • Deleted user 31 January 2018 11:56:05
    By cheesing him, yeah. :) I lure him as far as he'll go, then backstab him when he turns back. What, I'm not ashamed.
  • retro74 31 Jan 2018 12:21:05 3,798 posts
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    I've beat him with most of my characters - including my level 30 as it wears his armour 8)

    You can poison him as that's what I did with my first ever character

    It's a tough melee battle as once you get him to a certain point he heals himself
  • GloatingSwine 31 Jan 2018 13:51:07 3,916 posts
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    Doran only heals once, IIRC, but he does heal all the way.

    A weapon with decent reach and some damage can slap him on the approach and stagger him. Once you get Demonbrandt that will do good damage if you're PWCT.

    He gets more aggro when he's under about 2/3, draw him outside and dodge sideways when he comes for you then run round and backstab him.

    Edited by GloatingSwine at 13:52:01 31-01-2018
  • OllyJ 31 Jan 2018 14:48:45 4,866 posts
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    quadfather wrote:
    OllyJ wrote:
    Oh god.

    I just found out why Stockpile Thomas is like he is. Why he’s constantly worried about my whereabouts.

    Heartbreaking. I really did not expect this level of characterisation.
    Have you completed world 5 yet? 5-3 is one of the most emotional areas ever for me
    oh shit. Yeah that was a real thinker. "Take your precious Demon Soul".

    got to say 5-2 was just horrible, do not want to replay that any time soon. I'll be going to sleep hearing a swarm of flies later.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 31 Jan 2018 15:06:31 4,467 posts
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    I take it that if I want to finally get back into this and finish it now that my PS3 is alive again (which is what stopped me in the first place) that I should be doing it with online on before the shutout? Or is that not really not too important? My plan at the moment is one full playthrough as too big a backlog to be playing games multiple times (and got DS1, 2, Bloodborne waiting too). IIRC I was uo to a firey boss at end of a mine. Probably world 2 as I think I just did them in order... Just polishing off Yakuza 0 first then free for a new game to play.
  • JonFE 31 Jan 2018 15:29:00 2,071 posts
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    @One_Vurfed_Gwrx I'd argue that without the online component it will still be great, but you'll be missing out the lively and supportive atmosphere that messages, ghosts and the rest online components offer, not to mention the chance to summon another player. So, if I were you, I'd move it in the front of the backlog line, in order to experience it as designed while I still had the chance...
  • GloatingSwine 31 Jan 2018 15:29:04 3,916 posts
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    Online isn't important, all I seem to be getting from it is audio glitches and enemies failing to spawn whilst the PSN struggles.

    Also if you want to do all the things you basically need to play offline anyway for world tendency.

    I'm halfway through my all spells run now, just about to do Allant and then into NG+, then do all Yuria's spells.
  • OllyJ 31 Jan 2018 18:14:27 4,866 posts
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    I'm up to some big Blue Dragon guarding a huge palace.

    it toasted me.
  • Gibroon 31 Jan 2018 18:32:55 2,658 posts
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    @OllyJ

    That sounds like you are very close to the end of a world. Could be wrong though, it's a long time since I played.
  • GloatingSwine 31 Jan 2018 18:53:36 3,916 posts
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    Yeah, the blue dragon is at the end of one of the worlds.

    Best way to get past it is to go to the left hand side of the staircase, then wait for it to breathe fire at the left and run up as its head starts moving right (it goes left to right then right to left then pauses).

    Then you can lock onto it from below and shoot it a billion times in the chin until it dies.
  • OllyJ 1 Feb 2018 08:31:03 4,866 posts
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    Finished it last night, yeah, wow. what a game, I did find it difficult but towards the end I felt it levelled out, the bosses got a lot easier, especially once I swapped my heavy knights armor for black leather! Rollin for days!

    The thing that got me most was the characters, just incredibly deep, so many touching, dark, heroic stories throughout.

    I think I'll come back to it in 6 months time for another run through, but world 5 fatigued me too much to jump straight back in.
  • OllyJ 1 Feb 2018 08:31:30 4,866 posts
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    (I didn't end up killing the dragon, I ran straight past it because i ran out of arrows.)
  • retro74 1 Feb 2018 08:59:40 3,798 posts
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    I played it for the first time without a guide, I hadn't even seen any gameplay of it before putting the disc in - just read the gamestm 10/10 review and bought it on that and the recommendation of someone at work

    As a result I missed an absolute ton of stuff. There's loads of NPCs to track down and there are some that I've only ever seen the once now - despite playing it through over 20 times

    It's like an old 8-bit game in that respect as I didn't know what was secreted away back then either - until I found it by chance and had my mind blown :)
  • OllyJ 1 Feb 2018 10:34:49 4,866 posts
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    Bloodborne just got delivered, so there we are. So up for it.
  • GloatingSwine 1 Feb 2018 10:43:41 3,916 posts
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    OllyJ wrote:
    I think I'll come back to it in 6 months time for another run through, but world 5 fatigued me too much to jump straight back in.
    Eventually you'll become blase about wandering around in scunge with poison hissing at you in souls games. (None of the other places you do it are as oppressive and gloomy as Valley though).
  • quadfather 1 Feb 2018 10:50:26 39,069 posts
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    retro74 wrote:
    I played it for the first time without a guide, I hadn't even seen any gameplay of it before putting the disc in - just read the gamestm 10/10 review and bought it on that and the recommendation of someone at work

    As a result I missed an absolute ton of stuff. There's loads of NPCs to track down and there are some that I've only ever seen the once now - despite playing it through over 20 times

    It's like an old 8-bit game in that respect as I didn't know what was secreted away back then either - until I found it by chance and had my mind blown :)
    That was me too - had absolutely zero clue what the hell was going on. When gates started opening or closing, and I started to notice weird shit happening, I felt even more lost!

    I still haven't met all the npcs either - I'm sure I've not seen Selen Vinland. Or maybe I did. I dunno :)
  • quadfather 1 Feb 2018 10:51:08 39,069 posts
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    GloatingSwine wrote:
    OllyJ wrote:
    I think I'll come back to it in 6 months time for another run through, but world 5 fatigued me too much to jump straight back in.
    Eventually you'll become blase about wandering around in scunge with poison hissing at you in souls games. (None of the other places you do it are as oppressive and gloomy as Valley though).
    Yup, just wear the adjudicator shield and the regenerator ring - jobs a good un!
  • GloatingSwine 1 Feb 2018 10:54:35 3,916 posts
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    Or munch lots of grass.

    You can get loads of it from 4-2, just run to kill the reaper then spend the 5k on grass from Mary J.

    (I tend to use the Adjudicator Shield all the time anyway, only needs 14 strength and only weighs 3.5)
  • OllyJ 1 Feb 2018 10:58:16 4,866 posts
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    I never really figured out how to get Pure stones, are they just super hard to find?
  • quadfather 1 Feb 2018 11:11:38 39,069 posts
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    Some are hard (pure bladestone is a bastard to get - can only get it off a black skeleton in world 4 and it's a super rare drop), whereas some are much easier (pure faintstone is given to you by the cleric assistant in the nexus when you get 20 faith and/or rescue saint urbain and then speak to her)

    the rest are normally from hard bastards or crystal lizards, but have a low drop rate
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