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  • Load_2.0 3 Jul 2019 08:30:13 29,756 posts
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    I still consider TOS as numero uno.

    Everything is built on the world it created. The innovation is incredible.

    It rarely magics up solutions through technobabble, the Enterprise doesn't have a creche/school full of annoying kids.

    The iconic characters the challenging stories and genuinely novel and intriguing science fiction all within a tight budget but also within the constraints of what was deemed acceptable for TV in the 60s.
  • nickthegun 3 Jul 2019 08:52:03 78,513 posts
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    I suppose it depends how you watch it. Yeah, its aged and some things seem a bit goofy but pretty much everything you see on screen is 'The First Time [X] Happened'. You really are watching history.

    But, yeah, if im watching it, I generally do a 'greatest hits' and skip a fair chunk of the episodes (and most of S3, tbh). The gold is solid gold but there are only so many 'earth but gangsters' episodes set recycles you can watch.

    So.... yeah... I wouldnt (and dont) choose to rewatch it *entirely* but the highs still totally hold up, I think.

    And dont sleep on The Animated Series. Both seasons are better than S3 of TOS, which is when it really started circling the drain.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 4 Jul 2019 15:22:49 10,908 posts
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    TOS does too many godlike entities for my taste too

    Along with the gangster/western set recycles
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 4 Jul 2019 15:25:16 10,908 posts
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    Voyager rewatch update

    Midway through season 7 having just watched Workforce. Things have definitely flagged a little from the consistent run of quality they had through 4-6 but it's still chugging along. It actually feels more like the middle season lull than the actual middle seasons.
  • General_Martok 4 Jul 2019 15:25:19 823 posts
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    Yeah I'm afraid I'm in the TOS is wank category. It was far before my time to be fair.

    Love the TOS movies though. That's what started my Star Trek love in the first place.
  • RGeefe 4 Jul 2019 15:35:22 389 posts
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    I liked TOS as a kid on C4 repeats Then got older and was like "haha this dated badly". Now I appreciate it for what it is - a pioneering piece of television that, hokey now, is only hokey because it created so many things that became hokey.

    It's generally a bit daft and ham-fisted but so was Doctor Who (and still is). I'd argue Trek has given more to television than most other shows and so can appreciate it for what it is. I'd genuinely like to see it remade with modern tech and ideas because it really had some interesting stuff.
  • BinaryBob101 4 Jul 2019 15:41:54 26,978 posts
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    BBC2 surely? Can't recall TOS ever being on C4.
  • gammonbanter 4 Jul 2019 19:19:37 1,801 posts
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    BinaryBob101 wrote:
    BBC2 surely? Can't recall TOS ever being on C4.
    I remember stints on Friday at coming in from the pub time, brilliant stuff to fall asleep to!

    The essential TOS watch list is brilliant, try and not cry at city on edge of tomorrow!
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 4 Jul 2019 20:22:19 10,908 posts
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    So many comedy-ish episodes in Voyager S7 could be the issue. And it feels like they're coming close together too.
  • DrStrangelove 5 Jul 2019 04:02:50 14,479 posts
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  • simpleexplodingmaybe 7 Jul 2019 14:45:29 10,908 posts
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    The final run of Voyager where everyone seems to be getting goodbye character arc ending episodes is a nice send off.

    Actually felt something for Neelix at the end of his.
  • fontgeeksogood 7 Jul 2019 14:46:11 6,756 posts
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    Did he die on the way to his home planet
  • Saul_Iscariot 8 Jul 2019 00:04:17 3,163 posts
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    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    Did he die on the way to his home planet
    Janeway sold him as parts to the Vedians.

    Edited by Saul_Iscariot at 00:04:28 08-07-2019
  • RGeefe 8 Jul 2019 06:35:52 389 posts
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    BinaryBob101 wrote:
    BBC2 surely? Can't recall TOS ever being on C4.
    C4 had TOS and the TAS for a bit before it reverted back to BBC2. C4 went through a real retro phase in the 90s playing Star Trek, Happy Days, Mork and Mindy.
  • gammonbanter 8 Jul 2019 18:29:00 1,801 posts
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    RGeefe wrote:
    BinaryBob101 wrote:
    BBC2 surely? Can't recall TOS ever being on C4.
    C4 had TOS and the TAS for a bit before it reverted back to BBC2. C4 went through a real retro phase in the 90s playing Star Trek, Happy Days, Mork and Mindy.
    And 'Land of the Giants' too!
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 8 Jul 2019 18:41:19 10,908 posts
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    Who had Seaquest DSV then?
  • Darth_Flibble 8 Jul 2019 19:38:06 3,598 posts
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    @simpleexplodingmaybe

    ITV (on a saturday tea-time iirc)
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 8 Jul 2019 20:10:15 10,908 posts
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    I used to love that show when it was on
  • RGeefe 8 Jul 2019 22:48:31 389 posts
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    Talking dolphins and Roy Schneider. You also had on, around that slot with the decaying remnants of world of sport, - Airwolf and Robocop the series which was every bit as shit as it sounds.

    Far as I can recall, ITV have never really had or done sci fi. Always been a BBC pursuit - X Files, Trek, Dr Who, even the lowly Sliders.

    C4 had Enterprise but that was packaged with SG1 for a bit on Sunday afternoons.
  • JoeBlade 8 Jul 2019 22:55:56 4,463 posts
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    RGeefe wrote:
    Airwolf and Robocop the series which was every bit as shit as it sounds.
    Heh, Airwolf. The way I remember it every episode had the exact same plot: long buildup/standoff with another advanced military craft, then JMV did the one thing real helicopters can't, i.e. a loop, catches the enemy from behind and saves the day. The End. :)
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 8 Jul 2019 22:57:38 10,908 posts
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    Thunder In Paradise was on ITV too
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 8 Jul 2019 22:58:37 10,908 posts
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    But then Space Precinct was on BBC2
  • Saul_Iscariot 8 Jul 2019 23:08:43 3,163 posts
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    ITV gave us the Tomorrow People and Sapphire and Steel, both great shows. I am sure they had Doctor Strange on a Saturday morning at one point. Not sure but I think Space 1999 was also one of theirs.
  • thelzdking 9 Jul 2019 02:37:45 9,518 posts
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    Space: Above and Beyond.
  • Nazo 9 Jul 2019 07:10:07 1,037 posts
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    What was that time cop thing where the guy was hunting criminals and sending them back to the future?
  • nickthegun 9 Jul 2019 07:12:39 78,513 posts
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    Timetrax!
  • jrmat 9 Jul 2019 07:15:47 107 posts
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    JoeBlade wrote:
    Heh, Airwolf. The way I remember it every episode had the exact same plot: long buildup/standoff with another advanced military craft, then JMV did the one thing real helicopters can't, i.e. a loop, catches the enemy from behind and saves the day. The End. :)
    That was one of my fav episodes.
  • RGeefe 9 Jul 2019 08:13:45 389 posts
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    Thunder in Paradise was truly awful.
    Space Precinct was BBC2 Monday evenings. There was quite a lot of fanfare around it, as I recall, but it didn't really live up to the hype and became another case of "yeah Gerry Anderson was ace in the 60s"

    Space Above and Beyond was a Sky show, I think. I never recall it getting on terrestrial. Pretty sure Sky also had first runs on Buffy and Trek while BBC were a couple of years behind.

    What I'm saying is that my parents thought the TV was an excellent stand-in
  • nickthegun 9 Jul 2019 08:22:01 78,513 posts
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    To circle back around, pretty much every show we just mentioned is shite, which is why star trek is so well loved because in a sea of wank, it's one of the few things that is consistently decent.

    Edited by nickthegun at 08:23:51 09-07-2019
  • Load_2.0 9 Jul 2019 08:44:21 29,756 posts
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    No love for Automan?

    Can't believe that just got one season.
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