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  • simpleexplodingmaybe 3 Nov 2020 13:34:52 15,395 posts
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    Why would the water not be replicated if the food is? Surely water would be much easier to produce being so chemically simple
  • RobAnybody 3 Nov 2020 13:37:47 2,540 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Why would the water not be replicated if the food is? Surely water would be much easier to produce being so chemically simple
    But a whole pool of it? A running river? I'm thinking of very large volumes, not a small quantity.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 3 Nov 2020 14:06:06 15,395 posts
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    Yeah but it just get beamed back into some kind of recycling system afterwards probably
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 6 Nov 2020 12:50:51 15,395 posts
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    This week another quite TNG premise albeit delivered in an overwrought DRAMATIC style.

    Nice to see the crew getting a tiny hint more personality too


    I think this could end up being the best season so far
  • drhickman1983 6 Nov 2020 12:54:28 7,228 posts
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    RobAnybody wrote:
    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Why would the water not be replicated if the food is? Surely water would be much easier to produce being so chemically simple
    But a whole pool of it? A running river? I'm thinking of very large volumes, not a small quantity.
    You wouldn't need to replicate a whole pool, only the water that the players came into contact with.
  • drhickman1983 6 Nov 2020 13:00:47 7,228 posts
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    I gave up on Discovery on episode 3, I think for good this time. (Until somebody says "oh it's changed now it's good now! But I've fell for that to many times already...)

    I think it is that overwrought, slightly too dramatic atmosphere that's put me off. The emotion doesn't feel earned so the whole thing feels a bit hollow.

    It's not even actors having big moments, I mean, pretty much nobody has chewed the scenery more than William Shatner or Avery Brooks, but it rarely felt hollow.
  • Nazo 6 Nov 2020 13:04:24 1,518 posts
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    drhickman1983 wrote:
    RobAnybody wrote:
    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Why would the water not be replicated if the food is? Surely water would be much easier to produce being so chemically simple
    But a whole pool of it? A running river? I'm thinking of very large volumes, not a small quantity.
    You wouldn't need to replicate a whole pool, only the water that the players came into contact with.
    Why would you do that on a holodeck though? If you're going to replicate the water, why not everything else in the environment?
  • drhickman1983 6 Nov 2020 13:07:11 7,228 posts
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    Nazo wrote:
    drhickman1983 wrote:
    RobAnybody wrote:
    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Why would the water not be replicated if the food is? Surely water would be much easier to produce being so chemically simple
    But a whole pool of it? A running river? I'm thinking of very large volumes, not a small quantity.
    You wouldn't need to replicate a whole pool, only the water that the players came into contact with.
    Why would you do that on a holodeck though? If you're going to replicate the water, why not everything else in the environment?
    Presumably, a holographic projection would be less intensive and demanding than replicating matter.
  • Nazo 6 Nov 2020 13:08:41 1,518 posts
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    Right, so why would they replicate water? So people could stay wet when they leave?
  • drhickman1983 6 Nov 2020 13:12:56 7,228 posts
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    Because it's cool.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 6 Nov 2020 13:21:46 15,395 posts
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    For the sensation? Because they might consume it?
  • drhickman1983 6 Nov 2020 13:29:12 7,228 posts
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    I've seen suggestions that it is more efficient to replicate actual water than holomatter, too.
  • nickthegun 6 Nov 2020 13:37:44 83,748 posts
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    It might be like MP3 compression or something. Anything static like the floor or a wall is holographic because it doesnt need to be mega-convincing, but something that moves or you touch does.

    Ugh... thats nerdy even for me.
  • jrmat 6 Nov 2020 22:59:20 229 posts
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    drhickman1983 wrote:
    I gave up on Discovery on episode 3, I think for good this time. (Until somebody says "oh it's changed now it's good now! But I've fell for that to many times already...)

    I think it is that overwrought, slightly too dramatic atmosphere that's put me off. The emotion doesn't feel earned so the whole thing feels a bit hollow.

    It's not even actors having big moments, I mean, pretty much nobody has chewed the scenery more than William Shatner or Avery Brooks, but it rarely felt hollow.
    Same place I've given up. Spent the first two series hoping it would get better. More than enough. I'm just wondering which is worst, this or Picard. A few mates of mine that liked it haven't watched it. I have a feeling the viewership must be awful. Those watching it I doubt are far from the loyal diverse fanbase of old.
  • Nazo 7 Nov 2020 07:24:31 1,518 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    I think this could end up being the best season so far
    That's not exactly a high bar.

    This week was better, though the constant melodrama and teary-eyed shots of the female crew continue to grate.
    They couldn't resist the temptation to get a bit of Trek lore wrong though. It was established in DS9 that any trill could be a host, the problem was a lack of symbionts.
  • oldschoolsoviet 7 Nov 2020 11:38:11 6,873 posts
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    "Oh, doctor needs to go with trill host girl to planet...."

    Okay.

    "Doctor shows up in Burnham's quarters...."

    No.......

    "Space Jesus Burnham, YOU need to escort trill girl, I'm a doctor, dammit, not the franchise star....."

    No, no, no, no......

    Once again, the opportunity of fleshing out other characters thwarted. Remember when you'd have Worf episodes, La Forge ones, yadda yadda ? Tie in the magic trill pool adventure to the Doc using it to understand Stammet and his mycellial shennanigans, improve their characterisation.....

    What's the doctor's actual name, anyway ? :)
  • Poorandugly 7 Nov 2020 12:32:26 636 posts
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    Dr McDrFace
  • JoeBlade 8 Nov 2020 12:09:34 5,389 posts
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    So far I've looked at Discovery like an uncle looks at a retariad nephew: it's stupid and has its flaws but I like it nonetheless.

    This new tween character though, she annoys the hell out of me. And I don't have a clue why exactly, she just does.
  • Garfy 8 Nov 2020 14:02:53 1,493 posts
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    They remind me of another trill character, Ezri.

    Maybe thats whats off-putting 🤔 😅
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 8 Nov 2020 17:11:18 15,395 posts
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    I like her. She’s like Wesley Crusher mixed with Ezri Dax
  • RGeefe 8 Nov 2020 17:20:49 1,458 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    I like her. She’s like Wesley Crusher mixed with Ezri Dax
    The Worst of Both Worlds
  • oldschoolsoviet 13 Nov 2020 15:03:00 6,873 posts
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    How to make Burnham front and centre 101: just have Saru sit out lol.

    Probably the Trekiest episode yet. Still too many speeches at windows.
  • Nexus_6 13 Nov 2020 15:46:24 5,480 posts
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    JoeBlade wrote:
    So far I've looked at Discovery like an uncle looks at a retariad nephew: it's stupid and has its flaws but I like it nonetheless.

    This new tween character though, she annoys the hell out of me. And I don't have a clue why exactly, she just does.
    I take your sentiment and all but can we maybe try adopting Trek's values a little more and cool it with the retard chat?
  • DasBooter 13 Nov 2020 21:41:51 511 posts
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    How in the name of jebus have I ended up a week behind? I just watched last week's Trill episode thinking it was the latest.

    Loved it. I love the crew. Really glad they've been allowed to act. I even like Burnham.
  • stephenb 13 Nov 2020 22:17:04 3,533 posts
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    Michael, we all love you because you're the best person ever and the only one qualified to do absolutely everything and on the way we're all going to tell you how awesome you are.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 13 Nov 2020 22:23:28 15,395 posts
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    Just watching the new one now. Not kidding the cold open actually got me feeling something
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 13 Nov 2020 23:13:08 15,395 posts
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    As is becoming the theme of this series so far. The conceit of the episode itself was a Treky one a science problem with a human story.

    Told with Discovery’s trademark messianic streak.

    I do think that the music becoming a recurring clue to an overarching plot element feels very Russell T Davis era Doctor Who and somehow they’ve signposted it with even less subtlety than he would

    Nice cameo in this one too
  • Deleted user 13 November 2020 23:17:28
    Who was the cameo? I don't care about spoilers, I'm never watching it. Just curious who they dragged up for it
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 13 Nov 2020 23:39:11 15,395 posts
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    Steve-Perry wrote:
    Who was the cameo? I don't care about spoilers, I'm never watching it. Just curious who they dragged up for it
    David Cronenberg
  • Deleted user 13 November 2020 23:57:34
    Oh right. He popped up in some Netflix movie I saw recently. Clifton Hill I think.
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