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simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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Technoishmatt 5,365 posts
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Registered 7 years agoSome of the strongest ST NG era episodes have a huge amount of heart / emotions in it. Maybe they are trying to capture those. But Disco still massively fails as they hardly give you much to care about, even though with the longer arc it should be easier. -
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Tron Legacy Trailer edit trailer for STD s4
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Nazo 1,951 posts
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Registered 12 years agoTechnoishmatt wrote:
Maybe the constant crying in Discovery is like a canned laughter track in a crap comedy that signals something is supposed to be funny. If it wasn't there no-one would know which scenes are supposed to be moving.
Some of the strongest ST NG era episodes have a huge amount of heart / emotions in it. Maybe they are trying to capture those. But Disco still massively fails as they hardly give you much to care about, even though with the longer arc it should be easier. -
General_Martok 2,490 posts
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Nazo wrote:
That's kind of the problem with Disco. It's not that the characters are emotional as such, it's that the emotion is entirely unearned. Rather than making us empathise and care about the characters by having good writing, they just go through the mechanics - showing people crying, slightly over dramatic music swelling.
Technoishmatt wrote:
Maybe the constant crying in Discovery is like a canned laughter track in a crap comedy that signals something is supposed to be funny. If it wasn't there no-one would know which scenes are supposed to be moving.
Some of the strongest ST NG era episodes have a huge amount of heart / emotions in it. Maybe they are trying to capture those. But Disco still massively fails as they hardly give you much to care about, even though with the longer arc it should be easier.
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Technoishmatt 5,365 posts
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Registered 7 years agoDS9 even got a few tears for the old man writer Jake episode (trying to save the Sisko), and Jake was. Up until then otherwise pretty unlikable (I guess it was a diff actor for old Jake). And the Worf / Jadzia stuck in a jungle. -
simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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challenge_hanukkah 14,394 posts
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Technoishmatt 5,365 posts
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Registered 7 years agosimpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
Indeed!
DS9 made me like and feel for Troi’s mum -
creepiest-lizard 2,977 posts
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Registered 8 years agoNot even ds9 could make her any less skin crawlingly annoying. She even made me hate Odo a little bit for that one episode. -
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Registered 6 years agoSaul_Iscariot wrote:
Seeing as Picard is now dead, and the robot they keep insisting is 'as good as' Picard is quite simply not Picard, I'm out. The series was a mess to begin with, and now their main character is dead.
I have heard a rumour that Q will enlist Picardy help to deal with a threat from Star Fleets past and future. A crew of mostly unidentifiable people, led by a messiah like figure that turn excitement into entropy need to be eradicated from the timeline. Somehow it crosses over with Discovery, but I cannot see how they fit into that description. -
captbirdseye 11,190 posts
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Registered 16 years agoParamount just announced a new Trek film due in 2023. No director or what universe yet. -
simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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C’mon the revelation that she lost a child and then her relationship with Odo just casts such a long tragic shadow over her previous actions. Pursuing cheap thrills and men as a way to fill the emptiness in her heart
Not even ds9 could make her any less skin crawlingly annoying. She even made me hate Odo a little bit for that one episode. -
BreadBinLidHero 10,801 posts
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RGeefe 2,409 posts
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Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agocaptbirdseye wrote:
The whatever universe was canned, only the prime universe and it's mirror exists now.
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The one in the (turbo)lift? It was about 2 people who had spent their lives learning to live behind a facade, being forced to drop their defences and be honest with each other. Watch it again and don't forget your soul this time.gif)
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creepiest-lizard 2,977 posts
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Nah, good writing couldnt save the shit character.
I havent seen that episode in years as its one I usually skip if I rewatch ds9 but that bit when she holds Odo (in slop form) in her dress stands out in my memory as particularly nauseating. -
IRWATWO 1,378 posts
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Registered 2 years agosimpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
The episode about Trois sister taught me a lot about perspective. First time round I was bored and disappointed, wanted some wham-bam with the Romulans or evil space ghosts or whatever, so an episode like that was just boring.
creepiest-lizard wrote:
C’mon the revelation that she lost a child and then her relationship with Odo just casts such a long tragic shadow over her previous actions. Pursuing cheap thrills and men as a way to fill the emptiness in her heart
Not even ds9 could make her any less skin crawlingly annoying. She even made me hate Odo a little bit for that one episode.
Watch it again, as an adult and parent, as she fights so hard to not even acknowledge the existence of a dead child, so impossible is it to bear ... -
IRWATWO 1,378 posts
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Registered 2 years agocreepiest-lizard wrote:
There was nowhere else to put him
@IRWATWO
Nah, good writing couldnt save the shit character.
I havent seen that episode in years as its one I usually skip if I rewatch ds9 but that bit when she holds Odo (in slop form) in her dress stands out in my memory as particularly nauseating. -
General_Martok 2,490 posts
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Registered 5 years agoDirtbox wrote:
What a shame. 😝
captbirdseye wrote:
The whatever universe was canned, only the prime universe and it's mirror exists now.
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General_Martok 2,490 posts
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Registered 5 years agoGeneral_Martok wrote:
That said, Discovery did make the Kelvin timeline/universe canon by referencing it in season 3 when Mr whoever the fuck with glasses mentioned the Romulan mining ship.
Dirtbox wrote:
What a shame. 😝
captbirdseye wrote:
The whatever universe was canned, only the prime universe and it's mirror exists now.
Paramount just announced a new Trek film due in 2023. No director or what universe yet.
Doesn't matter. It can be canon and never be mentioned again. Like species 8472. -
RyanDS 14,073 posts
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Registered 13 years agoHmmm...
From an interview w/ Akiva Goldsman, writer-producer for Trek on the topic of Picard:
Q: “what did you guys learn from the first season in terms of pulling off the show that you’re bringing into season two?”
A: “Figure out the end earlier. If you're going to do a serialized show, you have the whole story before you start shooting.” -
creepiest-lizard 2,977 posts
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Registered 8 years agoFucking hell. I mean its obvious they dont do that but surely thats how it should always work? -
General_Martok 2,490 posts
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Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agoShame they still haven't twigged that no one gives a fuck about serialised shows when it comes to trek. -
simpleexplodingmaybe 19,992 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI guess that helps explain why the ending of Picard was literally just ripped straight from Mass Effect -
Jesus fucking christ. It's not like serialised TV is a new thing. It's at least 2 decades old, at this point.
In the old days, I know they'd start shooting the first few episodes while the later ones were being written but does he not see why serialised shows have about 10 fewer episodes than traditional episodic ones?
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