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  • General_Martok 14 Apr 2021 13:50:16 2,452 posts
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    Star Trek even made one of the first serialised TV shows ever in DS9. It's like they're reinventing the wheel.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 14 Apr 2021 13:57:22 19,786 posts
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    Would it be too hard to at least having the ending on the whiteboard even if the gaps to reach it need filling?
  • nickthegun 14 Apr 2021 14:01:36 87,537 posts
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    General_Martok wrote:
    Star Trek even made one of the first serialised TV shows ever in DS9. It's like they're reinventing the wheel.
    They had a loooooooooooong time to figure that one out. Theres no way it ended the same way as they thought it was going to.

    Also, its not one of the first.

    Also, legend has it when JMS was shopping Babylon 5 around in the mid-90s he went to Paramount who passed on it but then mysteriously started working on a show about a space station that is the last hope for peace with a chosen one captain, so its not even original.
  • johnnyrocketfingers 14 Apr 2021 14:05:02 377 posts
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    challenge_hanukkah wrote:
    Would you fuck her?
    All of them.
  • General_Martok 14 Apr 2021 14:26:48 2,452 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    General_Martok wrote:
    Star Trek even made one of the first serialised TV shows ever in DS9. It's like they're reinventing the wheel.
    They had a loooooooooooong time to figure that one out. Theres no way it ended the same way as they thought it was going to.

    Also, its not one of the first.

    Also, legend has it when JMS was shopping Babylon 5 around in the mid-90s he went to Paramount who passed on it but then mysteriously started working on a show about a space station that is the last hope for peace with a chosen one captain, so its not even original.
    B5 might have been the first and DS9 came shortly after so it's one of the first :)
  • Nazo 14 Apr 2021 15:01:48 1,906 posts
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    BSG seems to be universally loved despite clearly having no real direction beyond S1 and having one of the worst endings in sci-fi history so it's not like it's an unusual approach.

    I think B5 is the only serialized show I've seen that does a convincing impression of having a story arc that was planned in advance.
  • Not-a-reviewer 14 Apr 2021 15:05:46 7,649 posts
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    DS9 isnít even close to one to being the first serialised shows, there have been those since the 50s. Very well known shows too.
  • Technoishmatt 14 Apr 2021 15:09:35 5,349 posts
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    BSG is pish.
  • Alan_Wakes_Torch 14 Apr 2021 15:16:45 153 posts
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    RGeefe wrote:
    Jesus fucking christ. It's not like serialised TV is a new thing. It's at least 2 decades old, at this point.
    Twin peaks was 31 years ago!
  • General_Martok 14 Apr 2021 15:20:21 2,452 posts
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    So we're all in agreement that serialised TV shows aren't new then :)
  • Darth_Flibble 14 Apr 2021 16:34:41 5,532 posts
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    BSG was good apart from the lack of direction (felt like they made it up as they go) and the ending was messy but still better than the shit that was Lost
  • Dirtbox 14 Apr 2021 21:47:33 92,530 posts
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    General_Martok wrote:
    Star Trek even made one of the first serialised TV shows ever in DS9. It's like they're reinventing the wheel.
    Coronation Street is what, nearly 60 years old?
  • BreadBinLidHero 14 Apr 2021 22:01:17 10,751 posts
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    Serialised TV is much older than twenty years. Blake's 7, OG BSG and stuff like Roots in the '70s.
  • RGeefe 14 Apr 2021 22:20:41 2,356 posts
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    Corrie was 1960 and done live, I think
  • Dirtbox 14 Apr 2021 23:37:40 92,530 posts
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    Not forgetting shit like Flash Gordon before TV was even a thing. Hell, there's a frequently visited black and white homage to it in Voyager.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 15 Apr 2021 08:15:03 19,786 posts
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    Donít remind me
  • Technoishmatt 15 Apr 2021 08:40:17 5,349 posts
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    Dun watched Lower Decks S1. That was pretty alright! I did enjoy it more than Discovery.
  • barchetta 15 Apr 2021 08:49:12 3,318 posts
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    @Dirtbox now you've got me wanting to dig out RKO's 'King of the Rocket men'. Must have watched that back BBC2 in the 80s. Like you say, serialized pre-TV Saturday matinee cinema fillers before the main attraction.
  • General_Martok 15 Apr 2021 13:08:04 2,452 posts
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    We should probably change the thread title to Star Trek Universe now :p
  • IRWATWO 15 Apr 2021 13:21:58 1,317 posts
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    What about '(Why Babylon 5, Flash Gordon, King of the Rocket Men, The Time Tunnel and The Thorn Birds Are Better Than) Star Trek'

    Edited by IRWATWO at 13:22:37 15-04-2021
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 15 Apr 2021 13:27:41 19,786 posts
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    Babylon 5 is a big pile of shit
  • Nazo 15 Apr 2021 13:28:48 1,906 posts
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    Get out
  • BreadBinLidHero 16 Apr 2021 04:42:46 10,751 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Babylon 5 is a big pile of shit
    Spaced is hugely overrated and has aged terribly ;)

    Although B5 hasn't aged well TBF.
  • creepiest-lizard 16 Apr 2021 05:25:45 2,899 posts
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    Heart and soul always ages well.
  • IRWATWO 16 Apr 2021 08:39:58 1,317 posts
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    Spacex and B5 have both aged well, but Simon Pegg has aged terribly.
  • RichDC 16 Apr 2021 13:57:17 9,171 posts
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    @Technoishmatt Also finished it yesterday. Wasn't sure at first, but it got a lot better and now I'm sad it's over. Season 2 please!
  • CalamityJames 16 Apr 2021 15:51:08 311 posts
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    Technoishmatt wrote:
    Dun watched Lower Decks S1. That was pretty alright! I did enjoy it more than Discovery.
    I was watching it week-by-week (via nefarious means) as it was released in the US. The first episode or two are pretty bad imo, I was really disappointed at first - but it totally won me over by the end, and I'm looking forward to more.
  • BigOrkWaaagh 16 Apr 2021 18:20:34 10,533 posts
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    CalamityJames wrote:
    Technoishmatt wrote:
    Dun watched Lower Decks S1. That was pretty alright! I did enjoy it more than Discovery.
    I was watching it week-by-week (via nefarious means) as it was released in the US. The first episode or two are pretty bad imo, I was really disappointed at first - but it totally won me over by the end, and I'm looking forward to more.
    I felt exactly the same. One thing that wound me up was the constant, overt fan service. Subtle nods would have been great but it was always HEY DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN PICARD DID THIS and it got super tedious, although it did settle down by the end.
  • gammonbanter 17 Apr 2021 23:47:54 2,278 posts
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    BigOrkWaaagh wrote:
    CalamityJames wrote:
    Technoishmatt wrote:
    Dun watched Lower Decks S1. That was pretty alright! I did enjoy it more than Discovery.
    I was watching it week-by-week (via nefarious means) as it was released in the US. The first episode or two are pretty bad imo, I was really disappointed at first - but it totally won me over by the end, and I'm looking forward to more.
    I felt exactly the same. One thing that wound me up was the constant, overt fan service. Subtle nods would have been great but it was always HEY DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN PICARD DID THIS and it got super tedious, although it did settle down by the end.
    I know what you mean, and you're right, they do ease off them later on. The Roga Danar reference was pretty obscure and really funny as a result!

    Star Trek really lends itself to animation and having a show runner that is a huge fan and so subsequently cares about Trek.
  • General_Martok 18 Apr 2021 08:43:16 2,452 posts
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    I absolutely loved the penultimate episode of lower decks where it was basically an homage the the films.

    The series did start off a little crap but it's easily my favourite of the new shows.
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