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  • Menace 22 Oct 2008 19:31:05 5,887 posts
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    My 6 year old son is suffering from migraines. Every week or so it happens. Its so painful to watch it nearly breakes my heart. He's shaking, vomiting and screaming in pain sometimes. Only thing that helps is turning off all the lights and try to get him to sleep, and giving him painkillers.

    I just read that migraines increase in severity with age and peak around the age of 45!.. It is said to ruin the social life of many victims and cause them to have a lot of sick days meaning completing studies etc. is very difficult.

    It seems there's no cure, unless you can somehow work out what triggers it - chocolate, caffeine and sugar are supposedly common triggers.

    Does anybody here have experience with migraines? I'd be interested in hearing about how you deal with it - of if you could somehow make it go away.

    (We are seeing doctors btw., but their advice isn't much good I feel. I gonna try to find a migraine expert (doctor) if such a person exist and we can afford it...)
  • magicpanda 22 Oct 2008 19:34:40 15,035 posts
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    Yeah diet is the best place to start.

    I've heard quite a few stories of people benefiting from acupunture.
  • Deleted user 22 October 2008 19:42:48
    I used to get them all the time when I was younger, you son has my sympathy I had all those symptoms for 2 or 3 days at a time. Chocolate is one possible trigger, dairy products and I believe fresh orange juice as well can also trigger them.

    It is not always the case of them carrying on into later life, as I got older they became less frequent, the trigger for me was chocolate (not a good thing at a young age), by the time I was about 12 or 13, I was allowed to try chocolate again and I was fine.

    In my instance they haven't stopped completely but I can now go years without one, and the severity is no where near as bad as when I was that age.
  • Menace 22 Oct 2008 19:46:12 5,887 posts
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    Cheers guys.

    It's horrible not to be able to help (other than what we do now)... I hope it'll go away as you mention - or at least become less frequent. 2-3 days at a time sounds terrible!

    I've had acupuncture myself for a mouse-injury.. not sure if it worked or not but it did take away the pain for some time..
  • MrCarrot 22 Oct 2008 19:47:06 3,524 posts
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    I used to get them regular as clockwork once a week when I was around the same age as your son, menace - maybe a little older. I cut out chocolate, and IIRC cheese, from my diet and they got slightly less regular until they more or less stopped completely in my mid-teens. I'm 26 now, and I've only had one that I can remember in the past five or so years, despite more than making up for missing out on chocolate when I was growing up.

    From what I remember, there wasn't much bar a cool, dark room that would make the actual attacks any easier. :(
  • Menace 22 Oct 2008 19:53:34 5,887 posts
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    No more chocolate it is then.. for starters. Although I'm sure he's had no chocolate today.

    What about social stuff - do you think it could be triggered by social factors? insecurity at school or something like that? (he started school in august).
  • Andee 22 Oct 2008 19:54:33 1,038 posts
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    I've suffered from frequent migraines since the age of about 6/7. Diet was the first thing they looked at in my case too, but didn't seem to be able to identify any cause there.

    It was also true in my case that it made studying very difficult. My attendance at school was very poor as a result, but mostly managed to keep up. Uni has been difficult too, particularly around deadline/exam times.

    My experience though is that the migraines became less severe with age. Initially I used to lose my sight, hearing, and get terrible headaches. But in recent years the effects have been much more mild.

    Over the years I eventually worked out that a lot of the attacks were being triggered by stress. It's something i now try and manage better, but difficult to eliminate. Other triggers in my experience seemed to be, oddly, cheese and prawns, but difficult to ever be certain.
  • Menace 22 Oct 2008 19:57:27 5,887 posts
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    About the prawns - Shellfish is mentioned as a trigger also.

    I'm beginning to think that he must be under pressure and feeling stressed or something because we don't let him eat a lot of sugar or chocolate etc..
  • smugla 22 Oct 2008 20:00:23 2,273 posts
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    It appears that the chemical in cheese responsible for migraines is tyramine
  • Deleted user 22 October 2008 20:01:53
    /lurks round Andee

    Menace in my case the trigger was found because on one occasion I was getting them but they were lasting for short periods. I would go to school in the morning be fine, have lunch then have a migraine come on almost immediately after. Unfortunately if it is a dietary trigger it may to be down to trial and error, unless the trigger can be pinpointed more accurately, 20 years ago it couldn't as I found out.

    In their defence though as I got older if I didn't fancy school I always claimed migraine.
  • Andee 22 Oct 2008 20:02:15 1,038 posts
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    Stress/anxiety issues are certainly worth looking at, especially as kids can have a tendancy to keep these things to themselves. I know that I never discussed the stress and anxiety issues I had when at school, and as a result my parents, teachers, and doctors had no idea, which obviously made diagnosis more difficult.
  • Menace 22 Oct 2008 20:08:16 5,887 posts
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    Cheers for all the advice guys. Much appreciated!
  • Dirtbox 22 Oct 2008 20:09:42 91,412 posts
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  • warlockuk 22 Oct 2008 20:21:59 19,498 posts
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    I found a trigger was stress, too - school etc.

    I had 'em sommat 'orrible as a nipper. Still do.
    I don't think chocolate was a trigger for me, though.
  • Menace 22 Oct 2008 20:28:22 5,887 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Get your doc to run an allergy test also.

    Is migraine allergy related also?

    I'm allergic to grass pollen, all animals with fur - and intolerant to dairy products and yeast.
  • MrTomFTW Best Moderator, 2016 22 Oct 2008 20:30:53 47,498 posts
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    If it's any help at all, my grandma suffered them and so does my dad. Both triggered by cheese of all descriptions.
  • Angel_Treats 22 Oct 2008 20:43:40 11,070 posts
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    I suffered from them as a child, really quite badly, but they stopped when I turned about 9 or 10. I never had another one for years but in the last six months I've had two of them (although nowhere near as bad as I did as a kid). I hope it's not a sign of things to come. Both times I think they might have been brought on by stress.

    They never did identify the trigger when I was a kid, but we did try ruling out a lot of things and none of them made any difference.

    My heart goes out to your wee lad, Menace, I wouldn't wish that on anyone but least of all a six year old. I hope you can find some sort of solution.
  • Menace 22 Oct 2008 21:01:37 5,887 posts
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    Thx.. Its times like this I hate being a parent..
  • Dirtbox 22 Oct 2008 21:03:46 91,412 posts
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  • warlockuk 22 Oct 2008 21:07:11 19,498 posts
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    Menace wrote:
    I'm allergic to grass pollen, all animals with fur - and intolerant to dairy products and yeast.
    Heh. Let the party begin! :)

    But seriously, that sucks. One of the few childhood things I remember with absolute clarity is every sensation of migraines (compared to the adult ones). Really not cool... Best thing I remember was my mum'd rub my stomach when I was curled up over the loo and I'd puke my guts up. After throwing up you always got that temporary respite from the pain which felt amazing...

    But having someone rub my tummy really made a world of difference, to me. It was, at the least, reassuring.
    Maybe that'll work for your kid, who knows. That and a cold flannel.

    There might be nowt you can do for the pain, but you can at least know that you can do a little bit for the misery.
  • Bloodloss 23 Oct 2008 02:03:24 4,497 posts
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    Wow. Quite a common thing then.

    I had the exact same thing as your son at his age, maybe a bit older. I would frequently get horrid migraines and vomiting would always accompany it. I got checked out etc and basically people just put it down to 'stress' which to be honest was probably bullshit. I don't know what caused it, but I didn't knowingly change my diet etc and by the age of 13 or so they had stopped completely, and I haven't had one since.
  • pacrifice 23 Oct 2008 08:49:33 5,247 posts
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    I used to get em when i was 19. (am 24 now).

    I'd feel it all on the right side of my head above my eye and it was like someone constantly punching my head in. After several hours, the pain would disappear and i'd be left not be able to see straight, the left side of my body feeling numb and i was like that for three days!

    Never found out the trigger tho. and i remember taking nurofen and it worked.

    Today though, if i so much as feel a little ache in the right side of my head, and it's nurofen all the way. I haven't had any since.

    But yeah, laying back in the dark does help. A relative, whenever she gets it, she grabs a towel and soaks it in cold water and then lays the towel on her head. Don't ask why, but the shit really helps her.
  • Dougs 23 Oct 2008 08:57:08 94,595 posts
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    Aye, as with lots of others, I used to get them as a kid too. There was nothing much that helped other than a good chunder, a really hard massage of my neck (which used to lock up) and sleep in a dark room with a cold flannel on my forehead. My parents took me to an allergy specialist too, told my parents I was allergic to potatoes and tomatoes. It was bollocks.

    I have gradually grown out of them, now 35 and haven't had a really bad one for years. I get the odd minor one that is normally as a result of having not eaten regularly, or not taking pain killers when I've just got a headache, and can go with even 30 mins kip. They tend to die out for boys I think, but girls can carry them right through - there is some evidence that they are linked to the menstrual cycle in women.
  • chopsen 23 Oct 2008 09:02:08 21,041 posts
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    Wow, lots of people here had migraines as children. Far more than I'd expect given how many children with migraines I see.

    /pens paper relating interest in gaming with childhood migraine

    Oh allergies aren't anything to do with migraines afik. People tend to attribute everything to allergies these days.
  • rare_uk 23 Oct 2008 09:04:05 3,626 posts
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    I get migraines. They aren't that often, but I think my trigger is bright lights. For example on a flight to Canada the window blind was slightly open andt he sun was really beaming through it so when I looked at it, that was it. Migraine kicked in with vengeance. I got the looking through glass vision and then nausea and then puking. So embarrassing on a 9 hour flight, and being of asian origin looked dodgy going to toilet all the time, as 911 had only happened about a year ago.

    Can also happen when turn on first light in the house in the morning - it must be a shock to my head or something, so I have started to shut my eyes, turn the light on then slowly open them

    To sort it out I usually sit in a darkened room with a towel round my head and go to sleep.

    I am 37, and the migraines started approx 3 years ago
  • SirScratchalot 23 Oct 2008 09:04:56 7,921 posts
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    Menace wrote:
    My 6 year old son is suffering from migraines. Every week or so it happens. Its so painful to watch it nearly breakes my heart. He's shaking, vomiting and screaming in pain sometimes. Only thing that helps is turning off all the lights and try to get him to sleep, and giving him painkillers.

    I just read that migraines increase in severity with age and peak around the age of 45!.. It is said to ruin the social life of many victims and cause them to have a lot of sick days meaning completing studies etc. is very difficult.

    It seems there's no cure, unless you can somehow work out what triggers it - chocolate, caffeine and sugar are supposedly common triggers.

    Does anybody here have experience with migraines? I'd be interested in hearing about how you deal with it - of if you could somehow make it go away.

    (We are seeing doctors btw., but their advice isn't much good I feel. I gonna try to find a migraine expert (doctor) if such a person exist and we can afford it...)

    /Raises hand...
    Get them lots, to comfort you they've been getting better with age, when I was a kid I'd need to lie down in a dark room with a towel over my eyes to avoid throwing up. Now they show up when I'm stressed but I can generally manage.

    I've only found one medication which helps me, available in Sweden called Eeze, no idea if it's available in the UK.

    I wish you luck, and as I said, don't assume the'll get worse. They might get significantly better.
  • Deleted user 23 October 2008 09:10:59
    I had migraines regularly from the age of about 13-20. Luckily I had the warning signs in advance (the dot in the centre of vision that grows into a flickering blur over 30 minutes or so) which let me head home and go lie in a darkened room until everything stopped hurting.

    Since then I tend to have maybe one a year or so, but with varying symptoms each time. Once I had bad spasms in my eyes, forcing me to constantly look up for an hour. That was fun.

    But yeah, it seems if you get them in childhood they tend to fuck off in adulthood.
  • Dougs 23 Oct 2008 09:15:05 94,595 posts
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    Chopsen wrote:
    Wow, lots of people here had migraines as children. Far more than I'd expect given how many children with migraines I see.

    /pens paper relating interest in gaming with childhood migraine

    Oh allergies aren't anything to do with migraines afik. People tend to attribute everything to allergies these days.

    TBF, I imagine it's often difficult as both a parent and a child to distinguish the difference between a migraine and a really bad headache - that's not to denigrate anyone here though.

    Worst one for me was a week. Only an injection from the doc kicked that one into touch

    @rare - I get the beginnings of one if I get direct sunlight on my neck, particularly through a window. Weird.
  • chopsen 23 Oct 2008 09:25:57 21,041 posts
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    Thing is, even common headaches are not that common in kids. They usually complain of abdominal pain if they're stressed/run down etc.

    /in on verge of scientific breakthrough

    /pages dr_swin to thread
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