| Given the standard of literacy displayed by the majority of the 'yoof' on the internet I'm wondering if they bring that over to job application forms and the like, or do they understand the difference and it's all a big act? |
Is anyone here responsible for hiring people? Are we as doomed as I think?
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ruttyboy 7,950 posts
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Dirtbox 90,200 posts
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Please tell me none of them had "lol" anywhere on them. -
figgis 7,707 posts
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Registered 12 years agoI employed someone last year for a reasonably technical job (graduate). The standard of writing was well shit. -
opalw00t 12,804 posts
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Registered 14 years agoOne thing I have noticed is that people who can spell and/or use grammar correctly are decreasing, judging by the CVs I see. We now give a written English test to all prospective candidates - it is now that bad. -
JuanKerr 37,708 posts
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Registered 11 years agoI used to have great fun reading through CVs and covering letters at my previous company - we were hiring a new writer for a magazine and you wouldn't believe how sloppy people were considering the job they were applying for.
Me and my editor read one covering letter which had a mistake in the very first line. It went straight in the bin along with his CV. -
Dirtbox 90,200 posts
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Metalfish 9,191 posts
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Registered 13 years agoAmazing, I feel bad when I spot a typo in a forum post of mine. Not that I can spell, mind. -
Stickman 29,885 posts
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Registered 13 years agoI read CV's and interview, and the level of grammar is pretty poor, but to be honest that's not limited to the yoof.
At interview however, generally older people perform better. It doesn't seem to occur to younger people that even the slightest amount of preparation might come in handy. -
MetalDog 24,080 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI can't spell very well - but if I'm applying for a job, I at least spellcheck. -
Stickman 29,885 posts
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Registered 13 years agoMetalDog wrote:
I can't spell very well - but if I'm applying for a job, I at least spellcheck.
I give this as feedback quite a lot. -
Metalfish wrote:
Yup, I'm the same. I feel slightly mortified if I make a typo, let alone spell something incorrectly or mangle my grammar.
Amazing, I feel bad when I spot a typo in a forum post of mine. -
pjmaybe 70,666 posts
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Registered 16 years agoIt is a worrying trend. Most kids we get here on work experience (as a University we've got an agreement with local schools that we'll take in candidates for W.E from time to time) really have fully gone over to the dark side and cannot shake their txt-spk lingual and written stuff. In fact on the writing side of things, it's worse still. Most of them really can't write with a pen and when they can you would have to be either a GP or a venusian to be able to decipher their scrawl.
Some buck the trend though. But it's all part of the way kids seem to think that pouring their efforts into concentrating on core important lessons such as drama and drug familiarisation workshops rather than anything as mundane and boring as english. -
Why do people not use spellcheck? I think that's enough ground for not getting a job in the first place. -
Razz 63,428 posts
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Registered 16 years agoStickman wrote:
It's not always their fault though. Well if they've come through an agency that is. I've interviewed people that've told me the Agency informed them it was just an informal chat. :/
At interview however, generally older people perform better. It doesn't seem to occur to younger people that even the slightest amount of preparation might come in handy. -
Load_2.0 26,406 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI just draw a massive crayon wang on the front of application forms.
It basically communicates the message that I am so confident in my abilities that I don't even need to apply properly. -
ruttyboy 7,950 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThe reason I ask is that I'm amazed at some of the emails (nobody sends letters anymore) I get from people who are representing their company that are just riddled with glaring errors. Why would I buy something from you if I couldn't be confident that you could read my order correctly? -
MetalDog 24,080 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI wonder if we're seeing a return to a country divided by language ability, like in Chaucer's days? Be a bit ironic if common english became the 'poncy' language. -
pjmaybe 70,666 posts
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Registered 16 years agoIt's creeping into everything. There's even a typo on one of the Xbox Live Marketplace downloads at the moment (see if you lot can spot which one .gif)
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opalw00t 12,804 posts
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Registered 14 years agoDirtbox wrote:
Yep. Quite a few fail
w00t wrote:
Wow, seriously?
One thing I have noticed is that people who can spell and/or use grammar correctly are decreasing, judging by the CVs I see. We now give a written English test to all prospective candidates - it is now that bad.
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Razz 63,428 posts
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Registered 16 years agoLoad "$" wrote:
First thing that came in my head before I googled "Wang" Poor mistake. Stupid american euphemisms. (SFW)
I just draw a massive crayon wang on the front of application forms.
It basically communicates the message that I am so confident in my abilities that I don't even need to apply properly. -
Metalfish 9,191 posts
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Registered 13 years agoCan I be dreadfully old fashioned and suggest that perhaps is is because no very many people seem to read good writing for fun any more? -
mrblackett 855 posts
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Registered 10 years agoI used to work in a big call centre. Luckily I wasn't on the phones so I didn't have to speak to the customer service guys but I did have to deal with their complaints about the systems. I sent 20-30% back to the author's supervisor with a note along the lines of "I don't even know what this person is asking. Can you ask them what the fuck they're saying"
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Fatiguez 8,883 posts
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Registered 10 years agoI'd be completely illiterate if I didn't read so much shit on EG. -
MetalDog 24,080 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWell, give it a generation and Potter may have helped - but people keep bitching about Potter. -
ruttyboy 7,950 posts
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Registered 15 years agoMetalfish wrote:
Can I be dreadfully old fashioned and suggest that perhaps is is because no very many people seem to read good writing for fun any more?
Is that old fashioned? Makes sense to me. -
Goban 9,939 posts
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Registered 12 years agoMy grammar is actually pretty poor. I partially blame this on the fact that my school thought it was a good idea to de-emphasise the importance of formal grammar as an experiment to try and make English more accessible. Dumb fucks! -
lost_soul 9,369 posts
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Registered 16 years agoJuanKerr wrote:
Heh
Me and my editor read one covering letter which had a mistake in the very first line..gif)
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Triggerhappytel 2,694 posts
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Registered 13 years agoMetalfish wrote:
Amazing, I feel bad when I spot a typo in a forum post of mine. Not that I can spell, mind.
Yeah, me too. I'm a real grammar whore and always pick up on mistakes - much to my distaste when its in one of my own posts. -
CrispyXUK wrote:
How many CVs have 'thru', 'tonite' 'nite', etc?
Would this be in the context of:
"IF u giv me the job i wil shag u thru the nite tonite"
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