Bread Maker

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  • binky Moderator 3 Nov 2008 14:28:31 11,163 posts
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    Does anyone have (and use) a bread maker at home?
    Debating whether its worth getting one or if it's going to be used for novelty purposes every now and again and sat gathering dust.

    We get through plenty of bread at home, and was wondering if it was cheaper making your own, and tastier?

    So... anyone or am I gonna be directed to subway.co.uk? :)
  • faux-C 3 Nov 2008 14:31:30 11,204 posts
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    It is cheaper and tastier. You don't need a machine though - doing it by hand is piss easy.
  • MrWorf 3 Nov 2008 14:33:25 64,187 posts
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    Do you know any basic bread reciepes? I've been meaning to try this for years.
  • jonsaan 3 Nov 2008 14:34:59 27,052 posts
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    Flour and water. GO!
  • MrWorf 3 Nov 2008 14:37:53 64,187 posts
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    What.... Dumplings = bread?
  • otto Moderator 3 Nov 2008 14:38:34 49,322 posts
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    Yeah, they're brilliant, I use my Panasonic every other day.

    We have a thread on them somewhere (called the Bread Thread).
  • MrWorf 3 Nov 2008 14:39:04 64,187 posts
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    Oh! Cheers otto. Will check. :)
  • phAge 3 Nov 2008 14:40:31 25,487 posts
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    My dad uses one, but only to make the dough rise. The actual baking part is, apparently, shit.
  • tombo 3 Nov 2008 14:40:33 2,170 posts
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    faux_carnation wrote:
    It is cheaper and tastier. You don't need a machine though - doing it by hand is piss easy.

    Although I find it easier to do it by hand it is really useful to be able to load the ingredients into the thing before going to bed, setting a timer and having the bread ready when you wake up in the morning.
  • Psychotext 3 Nov 2008 14:40:41 70,652 posts
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    Yeah, the Panasonics are superb little bits of kit for this. I don't do it as often as I should though. =/
  • MrWorf 3 Nov 2008 14:41:14 64,187 posts
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    Wow! You've had that bread make for over 5 years?! :D Nice!
  • BanjoMan 3 Nov 2008 14:41:35 13,692 posts
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    I make mine by hand:

    1 cup Rye flour
    3 cups wholemeal
    tsp salt
    tsp sugar
    tsp yeast
    1-2 cups warm water
    pumpkin seeds
    linseeds

    Occasionally make an Italian style herb and sun dried tomato bread.
  • Pike 3 Nov 2008 14:41:44 13,459 posts
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    Razz wrote:
    Do you know any basic bread reciepes? I've been meaning to try this for years.

    Water, flour, yeast and salt. Then maybe add some spices that you enjoy. Cumin and aniseed are good in bread. The water should not be warmer than 37 degrees centigrade, or you risk killing the yeast.

    For improwed quality you can use cold water and let the dough rise slowly in the fridge over night.
  • boo 3 Nov 2008 14:42:34 13,901 posts
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    Don't bother with a bread machine (unless you really want one). Making bread by hand is soooo therapeutic!

    Just get yourself a copy of this, Bertinet is a bread God, and his technique is different from the 'knead the bread to within an inch of it's life' method that you'll see elsewhere.

    Highly recommended!
  • Deleted user 3 November 2008 14:42:43
    They are great, however it should be noted that most (not all before some get defensive) buy them with the best intentions, but ultimately end up not being arsed and going back to buying bread. It’s a simple fact that most people eventually favour convenience over economy or quality.

    So, bear in mind it may be a false economy, in that you’re likely to end up paying for the bread maker and all the ingredients, and then continuing to buy bread as you were.
  • jonsaan 3 Nov 2008 14:45:15 27,052 posts
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    proving is the key to making good bread.
  • boo 3 Nov 2008 14:46:17 13,901 posts
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    Anybody read 'Kitchen Confidential' by Anthony Bourdain?

    Remember the chapter about Adam?

    "Feeeeeed the bitch!"
  • dr_swin 3 Nov 2008 14:46:49 4,929 posts
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    We have a panasonic as well. Like any of these 'labour saving' devices they are great at first but then it becomes a hassle, the novelty wears off and it gathers dust in the cupboard sat next to the waffle iron and the coffee maker. The bread from them is really nice - especially the granary stuff. The flour tends to be expensive. You can't beat the smell in the morning though if you set it to be ready for the next day. It also needs to be eaten very quickly as it goes stale very quickly. Especially as you don't have a bag for it. Also the loaves are an awkward size, producing very tall bread that you get through very quickly and is quite awkward to cut.
  • otto Moderator 3 Nov 2008 14:47:01 49,322 posts
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    Making bread by hand is probably very therapeutic and lovely but not everyone has the time! I got my recipe right after a few tries and it makes truly gorgeous fresh bread, it takes about two minutes tops to add all the ingredients, I stick it on timer last thing at night and wake up to a house smelling of freshly baked bread, delicious! I've seen some real disasters from bread machines but I can honestly say that I love the stuff that comes out of my Panasonic. ;)

    My recipe:

    1 tspn dried yeast
    400g flour (I tend to mix plain white with multigrain wholemeal, about half and half though it doesn't seem to matter too much)
    50g oats
    25g sunflower seeds
    25g linseeds
    30g olive oil
    a big dollop of honey
    a teaspoon of salt
    about 340ml of milk (or water or a mix of both)

    Just put everything in in that order and switch the machine on.
  • otto Moderator 3 Nov 2008 14:48:13 49,322 posts
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    @dr_swin

    Freshness depends on the recipe, mine keeps happily for about a week. Keep paper bags from shopping to store the bread in.

    As for the loaves being tall, here's my top tip: put them on their side. ;p
  • TheSaint 3 Nov 2008 14:50:01 20,950 posts
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    I got my mum a Morphy Richards one recommended in which for her birthday a month or so ago and have been enjoying fresh tasty bread every visit home since.

    Sun dried tomato bread ftw.
  • ram 3 Nov 2008 14:50:22 3,598 posts
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    I've got one of those Panasonics. Great. Waking up to the smell of fresh bed makes your day. And once you tried it, you can't go back to the salty horror that is supermarket bread.

    I find it takes about 5-7 minutes to prepare the mixture.
  • boo 3 Nov 2008 14:50:34 13,901 posts
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    Green olive foccacia!

    /dribbles
  • Psychotext 3 Nov 2008 14:55:37 70,652 posts
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    dr_swin wrote:
    We have a panasonic as well. Like any of these 'labour saving' devices they are great at first but then it becomes a hassle, the novelty wears off and it gathers dust in the cupboard sat next to the waffle iron and the coffee maker.
    The key to that is having an absolutely HUUUUUGE kitchen so you never have to put stuff away. :D
  • binky Moderator 3 Nov 2008 14:58:08 11,163 posts
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    Time is definitely a factor, so by hand is a no go. My dad has one and it always smells delicious although every now and again he produces really cakey loaves...


    don't.
  • JohnnyWashnGo 3 Nov 2008 14:58:21 1,544 posts
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    I like to get the ingrediants ready the night before, set the timer and wake up to fresh bread.

    The smell is fantastic and the taste of your own bread is much better than supermarket bread.
  • binky Moderator 3 Nov 2008 14:58:36 11,163 posts
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    oh and panasonic linky?
  • MrWorf 3 Nov 2008 15:00:47 64,187 posts
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    You sure boo? I had a look around, they're a lot more expensive than I'm happy to pay for. :/
  • JohnnyWashnGo 3 Nov 2008 15:01:00 1,544 posts
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    I have this one...

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-SD254-Breadmaker/dp/B000QV07C4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=kitchen&qid=1225724404&sr=8-2

    I bought it a year ago when amazon had it for £39.99 which is a complete bargain.

    The nut/raisin/poo dispenser version is also a good idea if you like stuff in your bread
  • dr_swin 3 Nov 2008 15:03:20 4,929 posts
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    I like the sound of your recipe otto. I take it the honey replaces the sugar they normally get you to add?
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