Home Cinema advice Page 40

  • CrispyXUKTurbo 1 Aug 2020 02:29:11 2,928 posts
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    I had some time without my Ruark Log Rythm Sub and thougt the same. Bought a 10" Elec Gemini and was proven wrong.
  • ozthegweat 1 Aug 2020 09:22:04 2,536 posts
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    gammonbanter wrote:
    My new new Dali centre is so bassy that I rarely find the need to turn on the sub these days - has this happened to anyone else? I mean the fact I don't want to wake up the rest of the house is a factor too.
    I have KEF Q100 "satellites" (30x18cm) and Q300c (52x18cm) centre (well, not set up right now but anyway) and have not found the need for a sub in an apartment. The centre even goes lower than the satellites, so I'm rerouting all sub-100Hz frequencies to the centre.

    I'd say to get the most out of a sub, everyone around you has to be deaf or you'd need a proper home cinema room in the basement.

    Edited by ozthegweat at 09:23:53 01-08-2020
  • ozthegweat 1 Aug 2020 09:24:48 2,536 posts
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    The biggest drawback of HDMI 2.1 is the lack of surround and centre.
  • THFourteen 1 Aug 2020 09:30:51 53,824 posts
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    @ozthegweat

    Thankfully my man cave is in the garage!
  • Technoishmatt 1 Aug 2020 11:36:21 4,274 posts
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    Depends on size of the room, but in smaller rooms I have turned down the subs a bit (with a separate inline audio control).
  • You-can-call-me-kal 1 Aug 2020 11:43:15 20,043 posts
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    I stopped using a sub for home cinema. The average mainstream film these days has been sound designed for a cinema experience, with every gunshot, explosion, car chase etc being a room shaker. Itís just not realistic for watching a film at home unless you have soundproofing or no neighbours/children. Youíre constantly turning it down.
  • Derblington 3 Aug 2020 10:24:35 33,414 posts
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    And it's arrived!

    Except it hasn't :(

    They fucked up the order and only sent me one front speaker, the 3020i surrounds and their stands.
    Missing the other front, the center, the sub and the 3010i surrounds....

    Edited by Derblington at 10:24:54 03-08-2020
  • Zomoniac 3 Aug 2020 12:08:21 10,232 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    I stopped using a sub for home cinema. The average mainstream film these days has been sound designed for a cinema experience, with every gunshot, explosion, car chase etc being a room shaker. Itís just not realistic for watching a film at home unless you have soundproofing or no neighbours/children. Youíre constantly turning it down.
    I really wish that blu-rays would have a selectable audio track that was mixed for domestic settings. My current set up is just two Mission bookshelf speakers at the front of the room, and even with that I spend the whole of most films with my hand on the remote.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 3 Aug 2020 15:15:16 20,043 posts
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    The Apple TV has a quiet mode that kinda does the job. Itís a nice feature although it ruins the quality a bit. Should be a standard feature these days with TVs and such.
  • Blakester 3 Aug 2020 15:24:25 4,999 posts
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    It's a constant thorn in my side.

    You invest a significant sum in quality home cinema equipment only for the volume police to limit its output to the equivalent of a portable bluetooth speaker.
  • Dougs 3 Aug 2020 15:24:52 94,622 posts
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    It's a common cause of disagreements in my house too. Obviously, being a gadget twat, I like it turned up to 11 but not really possible with 2 kids. A decent centre speaker has helped that a bit though as I can now at least hear the dialogue without it being super-loud all the time.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 3 Aug 2020 15:36:25 20,043 posts
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    Again the problem is modern films. Stick on anything pre 90s and you can just enjoy the film at a decent volume.
  • nickthegun 3 Aug 2020 15:37:10 82,291 posts
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    I never really used to be able to stretch the legs of my old setup (5.1, Yamaha Amp, 5 Mission speakers and monitor audio sub), so when I decided to go all in on Sonos, I had a good listen to my mates who has, iirc, a very similar setup to the one Kalel has (had?) and decided to skip the .1

    For the amount of times I would be able to even turn it on, the sub just isnt worth it for me. Ive got it tuned (true play, voice enhance and minor eq adjustment) to a point where its fine 95% of the time and never needs adjusting. Occasionally when Im watching movies there are times where I do wish it had a bit extra pop, but in the main the core components do a good enough job on their own for the size of my lounge and the fact Im in a semi.

    Edited by nickthegun at 15:41:26 03-08-2020
  • ozthegweat 3 Aug 2020 17:50:10 2,536 posts
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    My Marantz receiver has a dynamic range reduction feature that actually works, although the "Reduce loud sounds" setting of the Apple TV works quite well as well.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 3 Aug 2020 18:38:30 20,043 posts
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    @nickthegun

    Iíd honestly consider turning off true play and just equalise it yourself. Iím pretty convinced true play is absolute bullshit. In particular it really seems to kill the bass.
  • CrispyXUKTurbo 3 Aug 2020 19:42:47 2,928 posts
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    I find Apple TVís reduce loud sounds much quicker and easier to access that changing my denon into that mode
  • nickthegun 3 Aug 2020 20:36:21 82,291 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    @nickthegun

    Iíd honestly consider turning off true play and just equalise it yourself. Iím pretty convinced true play is absolute bullshit. In particular it really seems to kill the bass.
    Thatís why Ive tweaked the EQ and pushed it up a bit. I dunno, Iíve got kind of an L shaped room and it does, to my ear, sound better with than without.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 3 Aug 2020 21:21:22 20,043 posts
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    Fair enough.
  • ozthegweat 4 Aug 2020 21:42:11 2,536 posts
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    I bought an IKEA kitchen. I'm not in the wrong thread actually.

    6 x 60cm cabinets, with 5 of these fronts (one cabinet stays front-less to accommodate the centre speaker), 2 as doors and 3 as drawers (with 2 inner drawers each). And I'm going to add some sort of hardwood top.

    I will leave the backs of the cabinets with doors open so the heat of the devices can escape, and I'll also drill holes into the sides for the cabling.

    I have my work cut out for me.
  • fontgeeksogood 4 Aug 2020 21:44:46 9,972 posts
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    DIWhy
  • Derblington 4 Aug 2020 22:10:55 33,414 posts
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    Iíve seen this done with the Metod model kitchens. Looks alright.
    I thought about it but went with white Besta system units, topped with Karlby bjŲrk counter tops to make them look a bit more classy.

    Edited by Derblington at 22:12:25 04-08-2020
  • Dougs 5 Aug 2020 07:20:25 94,622 posts
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    Sadly, they don't really work in the living room of a Victorian semi.
  • ozthegweat 5 Aug 2020 11:49:42 2,536 posts
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    @Derblington We were contemplating Besta (and Platsa) as well. We wanted nice fronts without knobs, and push-to-open is often a hassle and leaves a large gap. Metod offers a lot of options the others simply don't have, like a big drawer with smaller inner drawers.

    This blog posts has some pictures that are pretty close to what we are trying to achieve.
  • Derblington 5 Aug 2020 13:40:47 33,414 posts
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    Yeah, Iíve seen that blog.
    I was going for a similar look with the Besta, which is probably how i found it originally.

    These are what I ended up with:
    TV unit
    https://share.icloud.com/photos/05gNYNnbeK397-toiEUqQ1xSA
    Internal
    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0ZoUuQo6PJxq7_sGJEx4xaagA
    Storage
    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0DiVblzb_OaCsx2-QHyt2wRPQ

    Edited by Derblington at 14:07:47 05-08-2020
  • Technoishmatt 5 Aug 2020 13:52:48 4,274 posts
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    I am designing our TV cabinet and I am definitely looking at having equipment on drawers for easy access.
  • Dougs 5 Aug 2020 14:02:48 94,622 posts
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    It's a minefield. At the moment, my head is at built in cupboards, with cooling fans either vented out if the top, or side. (essentially looking at putting in a fake chimney breast, so should be able to do that)
  • Derblington 5 Aug 2020 14:03:28 33,414 posts
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    Added an internal unit image.

    Drawers would be convenient if you intend to take things in and out. The PS5 will replace my PS4 and then theyíll all just sit in there for years, and I can access everything easy enough.
  • ozthegweat 5 Aug 2020 15:11:35 2,536 posts
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    @Derblington Nice setup! Good to see the rest of the speakers arrived.
  • Derblington 5 Aug 2020 15:18:25 33,414 posts
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    Cheers.

    Yup. All arrived this morning, I just need to go and pick up a longer power cable for the sub this evening as the supplied one is a about a foot too short.

    New TV and AV at the end of the month and then I'm all done!
  • ozthegweat 5 Aug 2020 15:19:26 2,536 posts
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    Re: doors vs. drawers: it's a pretty wide unit when it's finished (360cm) and only half of the cabinets are for tech stuff, the rest (with the drawers) is for all kinds of things, tablecloths, vases etc. Apparently people own those things as well.

    Edited by ozthegweat at 15:19:59 05-08-2020
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