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  • Frogofdoom 6 May 2019 19:29:46 14,502 posts
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    That's good to hear as like i said I prefer the 3 series. Not even sure whether to upgrade yet or just drive the civic into the ground.

    @snake I have a 1.8 civic and compared to other cars in its class it's no speed demon. There is no shame in saying they aren't quick it's just a fact. The 1.0 civic has a 0-60 of over 10 seconds.

    Edited by Frogofdoom at 19:35:21 06-05-2019
  • SnackPlissken 7 May 2019 09:50:03 1,320 posts
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    And when are you really in need of getting up to 60 from a standstill quick? My point is that when hitting a junction, or a roudabout it's more than reasonable off the line. Also never had much of an issue on the motorway either. And if it was an issue I would have bought a different car.
    Maybe try the car before having an opinion ;)

    Edited by SnackPlissken at 09:51:07 07-05-2019
  • Frogofdoom 7 May 2019 10:46:33 14,502 posts
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    Ok you are right, the fact that its sluggish in its class is irrelevant when your opinion says it's fine.

    Like I said I own a civic and it's a great car but that's not because of its performance. Not sure why you are so defensive over your cars performance when statistics prove otherwise.
  • SnackPlissken 7 May 2019 11:01:03 1,320 posts
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    I'm not being overly defensive. I'm more saying that it's fine when driving off from a standstill? This isn't top trumps.
  • Frogofdoom 7 May 2019 11:08:10 14,502 posts
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    A Nissan leaf is also more than fine from a standstill and by that logic we should all drive those.

    Rob has already said he finds his civic a bit sluggish on pull away, I echoed his sentiments, especially when it has 4 or 5 people in it. You said that your 1.0 is fine for pulling away for you. It is slower than his and maybe you have a different expectation to us. Some people want a bit more power in their cars, some people don't.

    Edited by Frogofdoom at 11:08:55 07-05-2019
  • robc84 7 May 2019 11:17:27 13,957 posts
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    I agree with Frog, I'd expect more from a 1.8 engine. It's pretty poor to be honest. May be the rubbish auto transmission isn't helping that though.

    It's generally a nice drive, but quick off the mark it aint.
  • SnackPlissken 7 May 2019 11:20:14 1,320 posts
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    Well you can't have an opinion without trying one.
  • Frogofdoom 7 May 2019 11:21:00 14,502 posts
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    Mine is a manual and is much the same Rob. I had a 2 litre astra sport as a courtesy car a little while back and it was so much more pokey than the civic. Other than that it was a horrible car and I wouldn't have swapped it though.
  • nickthegun 7 May 2019 11:35:22 79,117 posts
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    I had a 1l (may have even been 0.9l) mitsubishi colt as a courtesy car for a week a few years ago and, yeah, it was technically 'fine' for pootling about, leaving lights, eventually finding a gap big enough to join a roundabout and whatnot but it just felt dangerous on a dual carriageway much less a motorway.

    It was such a gutless piece of shit, you had to drive everywhere in third. I've never used so much petrol and it was loaned for when my 2l RS Clio was in the garage.
  • elstoof 7 May 2019 11:43:09 24,370 posts
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    I had a 1st gen A3 years ago, 1.8 with no turbo, that was slow on the 0-60 numbers but felt pretty frisky in gear. Think it was just under 10 seconds, but bang it down a gear or two and it would pick up speed pretty nicely if you were already moving.

    Now you can get a 1.0 turbo with 3 cylinders that’s just as quick, amazing progress really
  • nickthegun 7 May 2019 12:08:42 79,117 posts
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    Yeah, the new 1.5l fiesta ST has the same BHP as the aforementioned RS Clio.

    Although there is something to be said for an NA engine, you can, apparently, get more or less 40mpg out of it day to day.
  • elstoof 7 May 2019 12:25:39 24,370 posts
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    My 340 does 40mpg minimum on the motorway which is unbelievable. A fair bit less in town though
  • KnuttinAtoll 7 May 2019 13:01:25 7,529 posts
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    Worst cars I've ever driven was my very first own, a Fiesta Mk2 with 45hp, which caused various road rage incidents due to others thinking I was deliberately driving so slow (especially up steep inclines).

    The other was a rental car in Malaysia, a Proton automatic. That gearbox was the most ridiculous thing ever. Couldn't wait to return it again.

    Current 8 gear auto in my 320d is pure bliss, despite close to 170k on the clock.
  • nickthegun 7 May 2019 13:07:08 79,117 posts
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    The worst car I've ever driven was my then-girlfriend-now-wife's Corsa.

    1.4 with the worst auto gearbox I've ever seen. It never knew which gear you wanted and was just dangerous going up hills as it either went into kickdown or chose 4th.

    It was an unmitigated piece of shit.
  • KnuttinAtoll 7 May 2019 13:10:31 7,529 posts
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    Speaking of shit gearboxes, my biggest disappointment was my last car, a 57 plate 220d CLK with a 5 gear auto.

    Nice looking car but drove like absolute shit, and especially roundabouts were its nemesis - not only did it handle like an oil tanker (despite the AMG 'kit' fitted) but the automatic was anything but smooth and got confused at certain speeds, plus power was lacking and quite embarrassingly so as it looked much faster than it was, to many boyracers' entertainment I'm sure.

    Horrible, horrible turd of a car which put me off the brand for good (which isn't really fair given it's quite old but dem's da feelz).

    Edited by KnuttinAtoll at 13:12:28 07-05-2019
  • anephric 7 May 2019 13:16:49 3,503 posts
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    My missus had a civic with one of those semi-auto gearboxes in it. It was vile, it could never decide what gear it wanted to be in and would waver when you out your foot down. It didn't have proper kickdown like a true auto.

    I hated that thing. When she got a proper auto years later she finally believed me when I said how shit it was.
  • robc84 12 May 2019 17:12:27 13,957 posts
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    So I bought (well, leased) a car. Went with the Allspace. It fits our pram chassis in with 7 seats and we are looking to get a smaller one so should be fine.

    The 1.5 auto felt nice to drive and seemed to have enough power for our needs.

    Negotiations were quite amusing though. List price finance quote came out at £390 per month. He started playing the game by saying think i’ll struggle to get this under £350 for you. Showed him the C2C quote and said can you not match this? He smiled and said you have just made my life so much easier. They didn’t quite match it but near as dammit. Ended up dealing on £310 per month including servicing for 2 years. Pretty happy with that. Plus there was only 1 trip to the ‘manager’s office’ :)

    Only downside is it’s not coming until late Sept / early Oct so will have to make do for a few weeks after baby arrives.
  • elstoof 12 May 2019 17:14:35 24,370 posts
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    Spot on mate, glad you worked out a deal you’re happy with
  • robc84 12 May 2019 17:24:47 13,957 posts
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    @elstoof

    Thanks mate, and great tip on that website, that’s gonna end up saving me shed loads over the 48 months! Plus it makes negotiating so much less stressful.
  • elstoof 12 May 2019 17:38:33 24,370 posts
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    Ha, Yeah, an extra 4 grand in your pocket by the end of the term. Glad to have helped, hopefully it goes through production quicker than the quoted time. Enjoy the new car smell!
  • robc84 12 May 2019 18:53:34 13,957 posts
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    Yeah, we can manage a few weeks if not though.

    Thanks again!
  • ibenam 20 May 2019 23:26:40 3,242 posts
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    Hi all,
    Moving to a lease deal and came accross a really good deal on a Peugeot 508 fastback.

    £300 for a 2 year lease with 3 months upfront and that includes maintenance & servicing.

    Trying to figure out what the catch is (apart from that its a peugeout!) before i pull the trigger.

    Anyone know what im missing?
  • jack5255 21 May 2019 07:07:24 841 posts
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    It’s a peuge....

    No honestly its likely a low APR on a deal as its a relatively new model and they’re past any pre-order stages now.

    Assuming there’s a decent enough deposit amount your side but have you looked at their contribution value? Might be another deal running.

    Otherwise could only think that the balloon payment at the end is pretty hefty.

    If the mileage etc suits your needs then it may just be a really good deal as we come to the start of summer.

    They’re not all that bad looking to be fair, i would probably poke around one if i ever grew up
  • Dougs 21 May 2019 07:08:41 90,960 posts
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    Damn, you can't take away the instant comeback by including it in your post as a caveat!
  • elstoof 21 May 2019 07:25:28 24,370 posts
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    You can sing that Black Eyed Peas line to your passengers every time you get in, “I’m Peugeot 5-0-8, you’re so 5-0-late”
  • ibenam 21 May 2019 09:31:25 3,242 posts
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    jack5255 wrote:
    It’s a peuge....

    No honestly its likely a low APR on a deal as its a relatively new model and they’re past any pre-order stages now.

    Assuming there’s a decent enough deposit amount your side but have you looked at their contribution value? Might be another deal running.

    Otherwise could only think that the balloon payment at the end is pretty hefty.

    If the mileage etc suits your needs then it may just be a really good deal as we come to the start of summer.

    They’re not all that bad looking to be fair, i would probably poke around one if i ever grew up
    Haha I had that coming.

    It's a straight lease deal not a pcp so no messing with balloon payments.
    Ill ask about their contribution but think it's £2.5k.

    Its 8k mileage which is more than enough.

    To be honest I would never consider French cars before but if servicing is included I can't lose..???
  • jack5255 21 May 2019 19:46:18 841 posts
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    Ahh fair enough. Guessing the initial deposit and your monthly payments & low mileage means they’re still getting a decent car in 2 years time that they feel they cane make money on.

    Admittedly never owned a Peugeot myself but they’ve Improved over time from what i’ve heard.

    So yea, i can’t take shots at them having never owned, it was just there for the setup ;)
  • smugla 22 May 2019 08:22:12 2,242 posts
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    Sad times my 1993 merc 190e is to be sold after a flawless 180000 miles with the most smooth of gear changes of any car i have driven . The new ulez zone will make driving to expensive in Oct 21 . Bought for £850 in 2000 have it sold for £1800 a offer i could not refuse, so i decided to get a Honda Civic as a run around .Theres no way im going to ruin my Audi TT RS on school runs and shopping trips, but then again London has become a 20-30 mph zone of humpty humps
    Spoke to my insurance so that i can cancel my insurance its been active since jan 25th and was told that i wont get anything back and that they can keep the rest as its beem over 2 months and im not using them for my new car

    Edited by smugla at 08:23:34 22-05-2019

    Edited by smugla at 15:12:30 22-05-2019
  • Dougs 16 Sep 2019 16:52:36 90,960 posts
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    Right, how quickly can these dealers turn a lease around? New clutch needed on a 14 year old car which will cost more than the car. But also can't afford to be without a car.
  • Armoured_Bear 16 Sep 2019 17:12:43 27,500 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Right, how quickly can these dealers turn a lease around? New clutch needed on a 14 year old car which will cost more than the car. But also can't afford to be without a car.
    What you thinking of going for?
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