Car buying deals and advice Page 4

  • nickthegun 24 Apr 2015 21:08:23 78,322 posts
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    Exactly the same thing happened to my dad. My advice would be: Dont get an Alfa Romeo.

    Whatever you get, youre stuck with it, so unless you continue to be flush, you dont want stupid ongoing costs.

    If I was looking to spend that, I would get something bulletproof that you can use as a daily driver like this 370 z for nearly new:

    http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201412189723705/

    Or something like this GT-R if you want something a bit more supercar insane:

    http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201504182712309/

    My mate has had a 350 z for nigh on ten years, drives it every day and apart from servicing costs, hes not a moments bother from it. A great car and the 370 z is supposed to be better in every way.

    Ive also driven the gt-r on a track day and it is the most mental thing ive ever done.
  • Not-a-reviewer 24 Apr 2015 21:08:46 5,771 posts
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    Has he considered a 12 month loan? He can get a few different cars over the next few years then.
  • Tetsuo_Shima 24 Apr 2015 21:09:48 144 posts
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    If your pops is middle-aged and looking for something sporty but elegant, I've always thought the Mercedes-Benz SL class looked stunning (and more masculine than the compact SLK). Cost a fortune new, but 2-3 year old models should be in the range. Upkeep might eff him over, though.
  • Pierre2k 24 Apr 2015 21:10:48 1,130 posts
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    @superdelphinus Certainly you're point about mileage and service history is a good one. A possibility worth investigating.
  • Pierre2k 24 Apr 2015 21:13:01 1,130 posts
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    reviewer wrote:
    Don''t take out the full 25% to get a car, take out the absolute minimum and get it on one of the hire purchase things. 5k and 400 a month will get you something extremely nice and he can get rid in a couple of years and get something else if he wants.
    He is taking the 25% regardless of any car to be honest so that's a given. However, it's a fair point about considering a lease car scheme for something a bit more special that he can hand back. I'll look into it.
  • superdelphinus 24 Apr 2015 21:13:17 10,065 posts
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    the point about s4 i forgot to make, is if there is a new one around the corner, he'd be able to get some great discounts on the current one. They are really pushing normal a4s at the moment (I could have got one cheaper than my a3)
  • Pierre2k 24 Apr 2015 21:16:53 1,130 posts
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    @nickthegun thanks Nick. Some sound advice and you're point about being stuck with it unless continually flush is dead on the money.

    I'm a big fan of the 370z myself and Nissan have rock solid reliability. One for the list.
  • Pierre2k 24 Apr 2015 21:19:20 1,130 posts
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    @superdelphinus Good point. Not sure the S4 is sporty looking enough for my Dad's taste though. I'm a fan but whilst it might run and handle like a dream, I don't think it would be my Dad's dream. He'd probably go for something more like a TT or the R8 if looking only at the Audi range.

    Edited by Pierre2k at 21:19:32 24-04-2015
  • Pierre2k 24 Apr 2015 21:20:19 1,130 posts
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    @Tetsuo_Shima Never even looked at an SL before but just googled. Pretty nice looking kit and given my Dad is 65, perhaps more fitting...hmmm.

    Edited by Pierre2k at 21:20:30 24-04-2015
  • superdelphinus 24 Apr 2015 21:23:02 10,065 posts
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    two lotus elises? (handy to have a spare when the other ones breaks down)
  • elstoof 24 Apr 2015 21:38:40 23,687 posts
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    New MX-5? Not the most prestigious badge but fuck me, 23k!
  • the_milkybar_kid 24 Apr 2015 21:45:44 8,018 posts
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    A mate has been leasing a 2 seater convertible Merc. Can't remember with one but it's bloody lovely. Think its about 38k.
  • Pierre2k 24 Apr 2015 23:02:12 1,130 posts
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    Lol, yeah 2 Elise's would do the trick. Actually, joking aside, I'd suggest an option for him may be to buy an Elise as a weekend car, and maybe something else for, say 10k, as the through the week runaround. You couldn't just own an Elise....too small and too low, but I do quite like them. Share it ain't me buying :-(

    The MX-5 is a great car. Gets a bad rap as a "hairdresser" car, but it is a solid, good looking, great handling car from what I've heard. Anyone I know that ever owned one loved it. Maybe not quite dream material, but who knows...?

    Yeah, the Merc looks the part. That said, there is something about the Merc styling that just doesn't do it for me personally, compared with say the output of its closest competitors - BMW or Audi. Personal taste of course. My Dad might love them?
  • Dougs 24 Apr 2015 23:25:02 89,929 posts
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    How much do hairdressers earn? There's an awful lot of cars that are apparently for them but fucked if I can get anywhere near affording them. (if I wanted one).
  • Pierre2k 24 Apr 2015 23:36:13 1,130 posts
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    @Dougs it's a fair point and I've always thought the same thing. I don't really know who first coined the term "hairdresser's car"?

    Don't think they typically earn all that much, unless they own their own business and play the tax system (pay yourself minimum wage, then award yourself a dividend for the rest meaning you only pay 10% corporation tax being probably the best known and widest used trick in the book). Hairdressing is also something an industry that will deal with massive amounts of cash in hand. I doubt many salon owners declare the real values.
  • nickthegun 24 Apr 2015 23:40:36 78,322 posts
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    The mx-5 is brilliant but it's not exactly aspirational. It's something you trade the Volvo in for when the kids have finally fucked off.
  • Petrarch 24 Apr 2015 23:45:17 3,742 posts
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    While I've only had my current car for about 18 months, I've been toying with changing the car myself this week as a means of reducing the monthly payments a little to put a bit more towards the savings. Had an offer from Ford for a used Kuga and while I was very keen and ready to go for it earlier in the week, there's been a slight mix up and its given me a moment for pause and now I'm undecided.

    Going to have a look at a Qashqai tomorrow to see what it has to offer. Not entirely sure of the spec but it seems broadly similar to what I have now as I'm trying to balance savings vs specification. The one in question can't be sold as new but its never been used either so there might be a good saving to be had on it.
  • Pierre2k 24 Apr 2015 23:52:06 1,130 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    The mx-5 is brilliant but it's not exactly aspirational. It's something you trade the Volvo in for when the kids have finally fucked off.
    100% agree with that. Brilliant but not aspirational.
  • nickthegun 24 Apr 2015 23:52:18 78,322 posts
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    A guy I work with tested out literally every car in that segment and ended up with a tiguan.
  • nickthegun 24 Apr 2015 23:56:05 78,322 posts
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    Pierre2k wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    The mx-5 is brilliant but it's not exactly aspirational. It's something you trade the Volvo in for when the kids have finally fucked off.
    100% agree with that. Brilliant but not aspirational.
    Case in point: my father in law got one when my mrs went to uni. It's now sat on 150k miles (!) and he has just signed the paperwork for his second one.

    Absolutely loves them.
  • elstoof 25 Apr 2015 06:19:11 23,687 posts
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    Didn't want to hold off for the 4th gen?
  • nickthegun 25 Apr 2015 07:52:56 78,322 posts
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    The 'new' one is three years old and has done 9k.

    I don't think there's really anything that tickled his fancy on the 4th gen one and was happy with this one.

    More than happy, actually. The person who owned it from new had pretty much no optional extras which, because he looks after it himself, means there's less to go wrong.
  • Jeepers 25 Apr 2015 08:00:39 16,576 posts
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    Advice please.

    First child on way, want to buy a secondhand car. Needs five doors but otherwise something smallish. Looking to spend between five and eight thousand. Reliability is important.

    Manual, natch and I assume petrol.

    All I can think of is a Fiesta or a five door Mini. Any thoughts?
  • Dougs 25 Apr 2015 08:07:40 89,929 posts
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    Why so small? You end up carting way more crap about with you than you realise. In a car that size, by the time you've got the or/pram in, there will be no room for all the other tat.
  • Jeepers 25 Apr 2015 08:09:17 16,576 posts
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    That's a good point Dougs. I'm new to all this (car and baby!) so any advice for larger cars? I was thinking smaller as it's going to be used mainly around town / short journies but open to any advice?
  • Dougs 25 Apr 2015 08:12:16 89,929 posts
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    I took the safe option and went for a Focus. The S-Max is pretty well sized for a family and all the Ford's are cheap to maintain. The down side is that they have no guts (or mine doesnt) and don't have great mileage....

    Edited by Dougs at 08:20:14 25-04-2015
  • PatrickEwing 25 Apr 2015 08:13:15 2,410 posts
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    Dougs is right, minimum size for 1 child has at least got to be something like a golf.
    If you end up with 2 kids even a 3 series touring type car is on the small side for all the stuff you accumulate.
  • Jeepers 25 Apr 2015 08:17:37 16,576 posts
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    Yeah two kids is in my future I think. Any general advice (beyond Doug's SMax) for suitable badges / models?

    Ta all.
  • Dougs 25 Apr 2015 08:23:19 89,929 posts
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    Others include the Qashqai. Never been a fan myself, seem expensive for what they are but some love it.
  • nickthegun 25 Apr 2015 08:26:42 78,322 posts
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    For a smallish utility car, you cant top the Nissan Note. Its a box on wheels, cheap as anything and never goes wrong.

    We got the mrs one when our daughter was born and its been fantastic. Because its so well designed, its more than capable of carrying all the baby gear but its got the high-ish driving position women seem to like, its not massive so its easy to park and all that caper. The rear bench slides backwards and forwards, so if you just have a car seat in the back, you can slide it all the way forward and have a pretty sizable boot.

    We looked at all the mini-mpvs in that category (note, jazz, modus..) and the note was one of the best to drive and by far the best VFM.

    http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201504182711624/

    The obvious caveat is that its a utility car and built to be as functional as possible. It was our second car and if I didnt have my boy racer mobile as a daily, I would have killed myself.

    Edited by nickthegun at 08:29:16 25-04-2015
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