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Deleted user 14 April 2010 14:35:45

Anyone see Norton in Modern Family?

Artistic integrity lol.

BinaryBob101 16 Apr 2010 13:37:21 26,520 posts
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Whedon is also in negotiations to rewrite the Captain America film, and The Avengers too.

Good stuff.

Spanky 16 Apr 2010 13:38:31 14,945 posts
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Disaster if you ask me which you ain't. Get Mark Millar to sort it out.

BinaryBob101 16 Apr 2010 13:43:11 26,520 posts
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Oh really? Why do you say that Spanky?

Spanky 16 Apr 2010 13:52:45 14,945 posts
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I read his x-men comics and they were boring and full of his trademark banter and boring action, most of it was just reworkings of his dialogue that i'd heard in bits of buffy and firefly. Unless he can up his game and chuck the slayer-slang then i can see this being nothing other than a rerun of his standard faire.

CosmicFuzz 16 Apr 2010 13:56:02 32,214 posts
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Mark Millar has written some guff in his time too. Wanted in particular I thought was very poor.

I love Firefly though, and the dialogue will only be a problem if it ends up with characters clearly talking in ways they never would in the comics. I trust him with ensemble pieces before a lot of other directors, pretty much.

spindizzy 16 Apr 2010 13:56:12 7,750 posts
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Which would be AWESOME!

/strokes firefly box set.

BinaryBob101 16 Apr 2010 13:56:13 26,520 posts
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But, Look back to Toy Story and you can see what he can do with more mainstream stuff. Again, with Firefly and Serenity you're talking a totally different kind of script. It's easy to criticise him, but he's great with scripts, imo. Remember, that Cap will be set in the forties, so he'll need to drop that kind of slang anyway for that.

I haven't read his x-men run, but I thought they were pretty much universally praised?

Goban 16 Apr 2010 13:57:25 9,939 posts
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Mark Miller is pretty erratic.

BinaryBob101 16 Apr 2010 14:00:37 26,520 posts
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Yeah, I'd agree with that. Civil War was shite.

CosmicFuzz 16 Apr 2010 14:00:58 32,214 posts
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Yeah I thought his Astonishing X-Men run was meant to be really good.

Spanky has a very high bar though

iokthemonkey 16 Apr 2010 14:01:50 4,662 posts
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''My god has a hammer'' was a fucking awesome line, though.

Spanky 16 Apr 2010 14:03:09 14,945 posts
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Hey i can criticise Miller n'all, he writes too much and obviously spends little time on his work, it shows but i'd still prefer him writing it to Whedon. I just don't trust whedon to do a good job.

They should just make a film of this.

BinaryBob101 16 Apr 2010 14:03:10 26,520 posts
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IMDb has Zak Penn scripting �Avengers�, at the moment. Penn previously scripted �Elektra,� �Fantastic Four,� �X-Men: The Last Stand� and �The Incredible Hulk�. Out of those only Hulk was ok. the other three were absolute fucking dross. I'm sure we all agree that Whedon could do a better job of those, even on his worst day.

figgis 16 Apr 2010 14:05:39 7,707 posts
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BinaryBob101 wrote:
I haven't read his x-men run, but I thought they were pretty much universally praised?

Not by me, they weren't terrible but pretty average.

figgis 16 Apr 2010 14:06:35 7,707 posts
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Spanky wrote:

They should just make a film of this.

I love Big Dave!!

Spanky 16 Apr 2010 14:07:40 14,945 posts
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BinaryBob101 wrote:
I'm sure we all agree that Whedon could do a better job of those, even on his worst day.

I'm not so sure

steve1979 16 Apr 2010 14:07:41 2,105 posts
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Goban wrote:
Mark Miller is pretty erratic.

Just a bit.

Although his first Ultimates stuff was great, and i enjoyed his Authority and Wolverine run (the first one, where wolverine kills pretty much everyone).

He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the Avengers film. If you want a comic book writer involved get geoff johns or kurt busiek

BinaryBob101 16 Apr 2010 14:09:10 26,520 posts
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Ummm, Geoff Johns works for DC, he wouldn't go anywhere near it.

figgis wrote:

BinaryBob101 wrote:
I haven't read his x-men run, but I thought they were pretty much universally praised?

Not by me, they weren't terrible but pretty average.

You aren't universal though.

His Volume 1 gets 4 1/2 stars on Amazon. So, pretty much universal praise there.

CosmicFuzz 16 Apr 2010 14:09:21 32,214 posts
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Wow, Millar and Morrison together there? Cool.

Vice.Destroyer 16 Apr 2010 14:09:41 7,172 posts
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Spanky wrote:
I read his x-men comics and they were boring and full of his trademark banter and boring action, most of it was just reworkings of his dialogue that i'd heard in bits of buffy and firefly. Unless he can up his game and chuck the slayer-slang then i can see this being nothing other than a rerun of his standard faire.

Heresy. Heresy. Heresy. I bow down to your comic knowledge and have done so for a long time, but the X-Men run he had was just (pardon the pun) astonishing. Up his game? How dare you, sir? The man is already a master.

Spanky 16 Apr 2010 14:11:48 14,945 posts
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Well so far it's already looking like it's 90% culled from the first Ultimates book so that's why i'm going with him. TBH i don't know who would be my pick if i got to select anyone.

figgis 16 Apr 2010 14:16:36 7,707 posts
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Vice.Destroyer wrote:

Spanky wrote:
I read his x-men comics and they were boring and full of his trademark banter and boring action, most of it was just reworkings of his dialogue that i'd heard in bits of buffy and firefly. Unless he can up his game and chuck the slayer-slang then i can see this being nothing other than a rerun of his standard faire.

Heresy. Heresy. Heresy. I bow down to your comic knowledge and have done so for a long time, but the X-Men run he had was just (pardon the pun) astonishing. Up his game? How dare you, sir? The man is already a master.

I agree with Spanky, Morrision's run just before was much better and whilst still having a few bad bits pushed the X men forward (Weadon just did the usual boring stuff with them, helped by Cassiday's art).

Spanky 16 Apr 2010 14:17:58 14,945 posts
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Vice.Destroyer wrote:
Heresy. Heresy. Heresy. I bow down to your comic knowledge and have done so for a long time, but the X-Men run he had was just (pardon the pun) astonishing. Up his game? How dare you, sir? The man is already a master.

In comparison to Chris Claremonts run whedon looks like slashfic

I didn't go much beyond Whedons first ten issues but those ten were forgettable, cliched, full of holes and smug whedon fan wankery. The dude should stick to writing his fail-infected tv shows.

steve1979 16 Apr 2010 14:21:20 2,105 posts
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BinaryBob101 wrote:
Ummm, Geoff Johns works for DC, he wouldn't go anywhere near it.

I never said it would be easy to get him. Maybe Ed Brubaker/ Matt Fraction or Dan Slott would be better.

steve1979 16 Apr 2010 14:22:34 2,105 posts
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Spanky wrote:

Vice.Destroyer wrote:
Heresy. Heresy. Heresy. I bow down to your comic knowledge and have done so for a long time, but the X-Men run he had was just (pardon the pun) astonishing. Up his game? How dare you, sir? The man is already a master.
In comparison to Chris Claremonts run whedon looks like slashfic I didn't go much beyond Whedons first ten issues but those ten were forgettable, cliched, full of holes and smug whedon fan wankery. The dude should stick to writing his fail-infected tv shows.

Which one of Chris Claremont's runs are you referring to?

Spanky 16 Apr 2010 14:25:32 14,945 posts
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Any of it*

*dunno, can't remember that far back, just go with 'any' or 'pick at random'.

steve1979 16 Apr 2010 14:29:52 2,105 posts
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well his most recent few runs on Uncanny and X-men were awful. A complete mess. So i'll go all the way back to 'Days from the Past' and 'Dark Pheonix' and remain happy.

figgis 16 Apr 2010 14:33:50 7,707 posts
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steve1979 wrote:
well his most recent few runs on Uncanny and X-men were awful. A complete mess. So i'll go all the way back to 'Days from the Past' and 'Dark Pheonix' and remain happy.

Anything before issue 250 was great, afterwards could be a bit patchy.

steve1979 16 Apr 2010 14:49:42 2,105 posts
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The Neo... worst idea ever

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