How easy is it to learn guitar? Page 2

  • Seto 26 Mar 2009 15:22:38 671 posts
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    Still my favorite - Justin Guitar
  • Seto 26 Mar 2009 15:30:55 671 posts
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  • Deleted user 26 March 2009 15:32:53
    thefilthandthefury wrote:
    DJCopa wrote:
    lots of stuff...

    Thanks! I'll check that out later on. Sounds good to me!

    I was already learning with other people. Unfortunately the guitarist is practically a god - good for him telling me what to do, bad for my confidence. It makes me embarrased.

    I used to have that too but I realised that playing with someone else that's better than me will make me better so that's a bonus. Plus, if he's a good guitarist he shouldn't have to proove himself too much and can play simpler stuff without having to go overboard, leaving you space to do your thing.

    Justin Guitar is pretty excellent.

    FWB, I'm going to give it a go in a bit and see what I can come up with, thanks for the advice.
  • FWB 26 Mar 2009 15:41:50 56,369 posts
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    If yoy get super stuck you could always follow the melody (or close to it). Works, though not very originally, but then music is an art of beggar and thieves. :) Most important is locking in with the drums though. Jazz musicians also always gone on about playing in each other spaces, so for example watch that you don't fall into the bass drum (well actually he should be watching for you). Can't say I pay attention to that tho. Fuck jazz. :p
  • Hypercube 26 Mar 2009 15:49:30 976 posts
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    It's not super difficult to learn the guitar, but so many people I know gave up early on because progress was slow. You have to have the motivation or will to keep going, even though you feel like a complete spacktard for the first few weeks/months/years.

    Been playing guitar for over 20 years now, and I'm super glad that I stuck with it. Good thing is, the knowledge of music that will inevitably sink in to your brain is also useful for thigns like software synths/sequencers (since you learn how chords n melodies worK) and there's little to beat the excitement of finally playing live in a band in front of people (although it was fucking scary the first time I did it).

    Once you've started, keep going. In years to come, you'll love it.
  • BanjoMan 26 Mar 2009 15:50:23 13,692 posts
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    If you think guitar is hard, try the five-string banjer.
  • Deleted user 26 March 2009 15:59:10
    FWB wrote:
    If yoy get super stuck you could always follow the melody (or close to it). Works, though not very originally, but then music is an art of beggar and thieves. :) Most important is locking in with the drums though. Jazz musicians also always gone on about playing in each other spaces, so for example watch that you don't fall into the bass drum (well actually he should be watching for you). Can't say I pay attention to that tho. Fuck jazz. :p

    It's sort of coming together, I tend to be beginning on the second beat which is giving it a bit more funk. Just need to work on my timing and my progression of things. At least it's going somewhere now.

    Heh, our drummer is pretty free with his whole drum kit, he's not exactly a rock drummer, he does have a light touch and he's not always bang on but I wouldn't change him, he's always doing interesting things, he loves the polyrhythms :-D. I am a jazz guitarist :-D Well amongst any other number of things we decide to have a go at, I probably fall into the category of folk if left to my own devices but from the Davy Graham/Bert Jansch sort of style, which is heavily jazz influenced anyway.

    Oh and this is an interesting/funny read for anyone learning the guitar.
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  • beachedvinyl 26 Mar 2009 16:02:00 318 posts
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    justinguitar.com is the best - otto, I couldn't recommend it enough. I got a new acoustic for xmas, having played a little as a kid. there's tonnes of resource there and if you don't do the beginners course you can fasttrack straight to the songs.

    linkage to your new axe? interested to see what you got.
  • otto Moderator 26 Mar 2009 16:21:23 49,322 posts
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    beachedvinyl wrote:
    linkage to your new axe? interested to see what you got.
    Stagg S300-BK - the guy at the shop recommended it as the most decent guitar they had in stock for starters. Looks as if I paid about twice what I should have for it though. :(

    Also picked up a Line 6 UX1 box to play it through my Macbook Pro. (I have a little portable amp back home in London which I might use - though normally I let the kids use it with their mike.)
  • Deleted user 26 March 2009 16:24:57
    otto wrote:
    Stagg S300-BK -

    Danger, tremolo arm alert!
  • [maven] 26 Mar 2009 16:25:38 5,799 posts
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    I've actually looked at the guitar (and piano) tutorials in the new Garage Band, and they seem not bad at all.
  • otto Moderator 26 Mar 2009 16:27:49 49,322 posts
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    Mr Sleep wrote:
    otto wrote:
    Stagg S300-BK -

    Danger, tremolo arm alert!
    LOL yeah, just read about how they suck.

    If I leave it unscrewed is it still a problem?
  • EssAitch 26 Mar 2009 16:30:57 1,196 posts
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    Learning to play guitar is difficult to begin with. That is why it's worth doing.
  • Deleted user 26 March 2009 16:36:28
    otto wrote:
    LOL yeah, just read about how they suck.

    If I leave it unscrewed is it still a problem?

    Don't ask me, I steer well clear of them. I'm no David Gilmour and have no intention of being either! ;-) It will add to the fun factor though, if you can ever get the thing in tune that is.
  • BanjoMan 26 Mar 2009 16:54:14 13,692 posts
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    Floyd-Rose bridge lock.
  • EssAitch 26 Mar 2009 16:54:26 1,196 posts
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    My Washburn has a locking tremolo, some Floyd Rose clone or other. I've always found it a bit surplus to requirements, tbh, and, when I say a bit, I mean completely. If it ever looks like I might be able to justify the expense of a new guitar, I think it'll be trem-free.

    /dreams

    That's got a trem., I know (cough)

    I think it comes without.
  • Deleted user 26 March 2009 17:08:32
    FluffyTucker wrote:
    I've been playing this cool sounding power chord riff for ages and I just realised it's the bass line in a level from lemmings..

    Awesome! :-D

    I already have my dream electric guitar epiphone casino, does everything I could want from an electric. Can sound smooth and jazzy and also sound pretty rough and garage-rock like.

    Then I just need to get one of these and I'll be happy. Oh and a lovely classical guitar as well I suppose.

    One of the first things I di manage to do on the bass is play the opening bass line riff from the grand prix theme. Har.
  • Deleted user 26 March 2009 17:09:04
    FluffyTucker wrote:
    My Fender American Strat has some locking tremelo thing, you can whammy to your heart's content without it losing tuning. It's fun
    Replacing the strings or tuning it, however, is not. Really, really not.
  • Deleted user 26 March 2009 17:49:27
    FluffyTucker wrote:
    I've written it up in tab haha, it sounds nice. Shame I don't have a clone so I could play both parts together :(

    Lemmingstablol

    Hah, excellent. What you need is one of those recorder peddles that you can then use as a loop and play over. It was quite the fashion a few years back. Can't remember what they're actually called though, which isn't much use.
  • DJCopa 26 Mar 2009 17:54:17 2,577 posts
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    thefilthandthefury wrote:
    DJCopa wrote:
    lots of stuff...

    Thanks! I'll check that out later on. Sounds good to me!

    I was already learning with other people. Unfortunately the guitarist is practically a god - good for him telling me what to do, bad for my confidence. It makes me embarrased.

    I get frustrated, as I'm only a month in. However, I definately see a steady upwards curve when practising with mates.

    I'm just listening to all my old Monster Magnet albums - Lovely to play on the Bass!
  • silentbob 26 Mar 2009 17:59:13 29,527 posts
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    disussedgenius wrote:
    FluffyTucker wrote:
    My Fender American Strat has some locking tremelo thing, you can whammy to your heart's content without it losing tuning. It's fun
    Replacing the strings or tuning it, however, is not. Really, really not.
    I managed it, and I'm a complete nub! :)
  • Deleted user 26 March 2009 18:07:34
    Something I figured out one day, the theme from the magic round about. Just the notes:

    C CC G GG A AA F FF Bb BbBb F FF B BB G GG C, or something like that anyway.
  • Deleted user 26 March 2009 18:15:46
    Ah! found a link to one here. Pretty pricey stuff though.
  • dufftownallan 26 Mar 2009 18:35:03 4,723 posts
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    thefilthandthefury wrote:
    I was trying to learn the bass recently but I've pretty much given up. It cripples your hands.
    how!?
  • otto Moderator 26 Mar 2009 18:39:03 49,322 posts
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    Jeez it's taking forever to get this bloody amp thing set up. :/
  • FWB 26 Mar 2009 18:48:31 56,369 posts
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    First thing I spent my first ever proper pay cheque on was a valve effects deck... £350. Two weeks wages.
  • Deleted user 26 March 2009 19:06:33
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  • Deleted user 26 March 2009 19:23:15
    Argh, not another guitar thread. Can't... resist... posting... advice.

    In short: yes, it's worth it, but no, it's not easy. If you're prepared to put the time and effort in to practice it every single day though - even if it's just for ten or fifteen minutes at first - you'll find it enormously rewarding and satisfying.

    Personally I always think you should play whatever you like the sound of most - that goes for both the type of guitar you choose (there's arguments for starting out on both in terms of what it does for your technique), and the sort of music you start to learn (whether it be mostly rhythm guitar - i.e. using chords - or melodic lead stuff - i.e. widdly solos).

    Oh yeah, and there's plenty of guitar-playing types here on the forum so if you need tips or advice on anything, or just a kick up the arse to keep sticking at it, just come and give us a yell.

    otto wrote:
    Jeez it's taking forever to get this bloody amp thing set up. :/

    Plug amp into mains.
    Plug guitar into amp.
    Set all dials to 11.

    What could be simpler?
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