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Thief (2014) • Page 11
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Tiger_Walts 16,674 posts
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fletch7100 8,372 posts
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Registered 11 years agoSo who else would have thought PvZ MP shooter is getting better reviews than this .gif)
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beastmaster 22,373 posts
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Registered 17 years agoWhat a shame. I though it was by the same team that did Deus-Ex, so had high hopes despite the per-release negativity.
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@UncleLou It wouldn't be the first time I had an erroneous theory. I was quite amused one time when I was chatting to a friend of mine who is more clued up on science than me and I was suggesting that I had this idea of an expanding and contracting Universe that is ever-infinite only for him to point out that the same theory existed for a long time and has been disproven. -
@LetsGo You can walk away from a game in the same way you can leave the cinema. Granted it does cost you more but you don't have to sit through an entire game. My Steam library is a testament to that! -
HarryPalmer 6,357 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThe Edge review is quite positive (7), with the proviso that you turn off focus mode. Sounds shit though. -
Tiger_Walts 16,674 posts
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Registered 19 years agoI'm wondering which assists to turn off. Naturally I'll be on Master difficulty and removing waypoints. Alertness markers might go, provided the AI telegraph their state well enough. Loot glint is currently way over the top, I'd take a subtler version if there was one.
Focus is the one I'm not sure on. Some of the traits seem acceptable while others are way too OP. I guess I could just not upgrade it. -
Ziz0u 11,006 posts
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Registered 12 years agoUncleLou wrote:
I just read this and it's positively glowing in places:
@Mr_Sleep Sounds like a reasonable theory, but John Walker's "Wot I Think" is the most positive take I've read on the game, and he's a glowing fanboy of the originals.
Oh thank God. It’s good.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/24/thief-review/
While there’s going to be controversy, I’m arguing that it’s better than good. Thief, Eidos Montreal’s reviving of Looking Glass’s insurmountable series, is a superb game. It’s a tangible relief to write that. After years of really awful publicity, terrible press demos, and trailer after trailer of schlocky crap, our hopes were below waist level. But cast it all aside and chalk it up to abysmal marketing. While there is much to pick at, and I am certain there will be many who are apoplectic in their outrage, as a game within itself, Thief is bloody great.
As the fourth in what I suspect might be the best trilogy in all of gaming, previously from the best development studio that ever existed, yeah – it suffers a bit more there. That’s the Thief dilemma, right there. Eidos Montreal following up Deus Ex, arguably the best ever PC game, was a bold move. Following arguably the best ever PC gaming trilogy was truly gutsy. They weren’t ever going to better it, I don’t think. Neither Thief: The Dark Project’s genre-creating wonderment, nor Thief: Deadly Shadows’ astonishing terror and storytelling, were targets that seemed expectable. And yes, it falls short of them. But damn if it doesn’t get close in places.
He lists a lot of negatives of course, but his opinion and the few other positive reviews just don't gel with the negative ones. -
Skirlasvoud 4,039 posts
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Registered 11 years agoI dislike Simon Parker's Eurogamer review. To justify bringing the score down to 6/10, he lists a LOT of negative sounding reasons that were just as prevalent in the masterwork of an original.
I find this bit especially grating:
So far, so Tactical Espionage Action - but unlike Metal Gear Solid, there's no range of options for a player to take when plotting a route forward. Nor is there anything like Dishonored's suite of skills to facilitate stylish, expressive play. Instead, you can slide forwards a few feet in silence, crouch in the shadows or throw breakables to distract guards. Other than that, there's little to do but cower and collect.
I can agree that a smaller range of options is bad since the original had more of that, but lacking stylish Dishonored play? The critique that there's little to do but cower and collect unlike in Metal Gear Solid? Why my good man, this is Thief. Cower and collect is pretty much the name of the game. Always has been. Hell, this is what most of us old-timy veterans of the series wanted. You need to think about whom you're comparing Thief to and what the game is trying to do.
This is like calling Titanfall a disappointing shooter because you can't jumpjet and scale as high as in Planetside 2's bigger maps, because Battlefield 4 is more destructible and the robots in Mechwarrior have better customization.
I know that this game has had a lot of justified bad press, but watching Let's Plays and WTF is... videos on thief and seeing how the Developer has put in admirable amount of work placating earlier criticism, I feel like this bad press has now been drawn out beyond what is actually warranted. That critics are now calling Thief disappointing because of reasons that made the franchise great, truly smacks of unabated negative thinking, a lack of journalistic depth and the lack of nerve to veer away from general and colleague opinion.
I haven't played the game yet and I myself can't form an opinion yet (an opinion no doubt colored by my experiences with the older titles) but despite the scores I will buy the new Thief and give it a look-over. I don't expect to ever be as good as the older titles and I might indeed be disappointing, but never over reasons like Parker lists and it seems good enough that people should give it that fair chance.
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Dizzy 3,716 posts
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Registered 20 years agoChecked it out at a friends place yesterday on PS4... framerate was not very good? He liked it... but never played the original. -
Has anybody received their Steam key from SimplyCDKeys? Not got mine yet. -
xxblindmonkeyxx 473 posts
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Registered 13 years agoPhysically_Insane wrote:
I cancelled as cjs CD keys were sending out immediately, installing now
Has anybody received their Steam key from SimplyCDKeys? Not got mine yet. -
ChiefGB 13,815 posts
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Registered 10 years agoDizzy wrote:
Oh shit!, mines just been dispatched oh well a lesson learnt there, if we've heard right 1080p does not always equal the best version :'(. Made worse by the fact I swapped it out from the xb1 version when the res was confirmed.
Checked it out at a friends place yesterday on PS4... framerate was not very good? He liked it... but never played the original. -
Lots of options in the PC version for graphics, difficulty and the HUD - nice seamless switching between controller and mouse / keyboard too. -
skuzzbag 5,950 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI still think your hands hovering in front of you while you walk around looks fucking retarded. I mean who the fuck walks around like that apart from Tommy Cooper?
This is what Garret now looks like
I'll play it when some bright spark has modded those things back up the arsehole of the twat who thought it was a great idea.
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xxblindmonkeyxx 473 posts
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Registered 13 years agoAnyone managed to get this to activate on steam yet, used to use spotflux but steam doesn't seem to be falling for it? -
neilka 24,026 posts
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Registered 16 years agoIt unlocks okay with FlyVPN I've played the first couple of chapters, like the reviews say there's nothing particularly wrong with it but it's just not very interesting... -
Telepathic.Geometry 12,422 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI ordered this and Lord of Shadows 2 from amazon, both of which got battered in the reviews, and I have to wait for them. It's an extra kick in the stones, that I have to wait for the fuckers while everybody shit-talks them to death.
If there's any fun to be had out of these games, I wanna try and get it before my gaming soul is flayed any more. -
Gojiratron 227 posts
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Registered 11 years agoI thought I'd give it one last chance to redeem itself so I fired up Twitch to see it getting played. I watched it for about 10 minutes.
Guy was in the Bordello level, in a corridor behind some rooms where blokes and prostitutes were getting it on. Garret had some sort of mechanical device in his hand that had a series of concentric rings with symbols on them. At the top was a frame so obviously you had to rotate the rings so that the correct combination of symbols was selected. Now what he had to do to identify the correct symbols was peek in on the four rooms where the hookers were doing their thing through holes in the wall. I don't even know what he looked at as just looking in and around the room seemed sufficient. He then brought up the device with the rings and all four of the symbols needed were glowing. There didn't seem to be any mental effort required by the player at all. Pathetic.
This device was then used to reveal a secret passage which he proceeded down. He approached a door and enabled Focus mode. Huge red square on the floor in front of the door and a bunch of small red squares on the wall indicating a trap. He turned around and found a big blue square on a wall which he pushed to disable the trap. Does focus mode really need to give you the release to the trap as well? By all means warn the player that a trap is there but make them search for the release and be creative about where you hide it. Just giving it to the player like that is shitty game design.
I just can't stand games that hold your hand and signpost things like that, I enjoy figuring things out for myself. It would seem to me that you have to avoid focus mode to get any satisfaction from the game. I'll definitely hold off on this the now. Hopefully the modding community will get creative with the PC version. -
Dizzy 3,716 posts
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Registered 20 years ago@ChiefGB I don't know how the X1 version runs... but the PS4 version was pretty terrible compared to the PC version. Framerates in the low 20s I would say.
The DF faceoff might get really ugly on this one.
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rudedudejude 2,374 posts
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Registered 16 years ago@Gojiratron I think the only way this game can be good is at least by:
- turning down / off jewel glint
- turning off focus
- turning off mini map
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Ziz0u 11,006 posts
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Registered 12 years agoI think you can turn most handholdy things off. -
Aretak 10,391 posts
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Registered 19 years agoChiefGB wrote:
The Xbone version runs like crap too, so you're not missing out on anything there. Giant Bomb did a Quick Look of the Xbone version yesterday and mentioned that they'd shelved plans of showing both versions since they ran equally poorly.
Dizzy wrote:
Oh shit!, mines just been dispatched oh well a lesson learnt there, if we've heard right 1080p does not always equal the best version :'(. Made worse by the fact I swapped it out from the xb1 version when the res was confirmed.
Checked it out at a friends place yesterday on PS4... framerate was not very good? He liked it... but never played the original. -
JayG 1,028 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI'm quite enjoying the PC version. I think the biggest problem Thief is facing is Dishonoured. It's definitely not as good, but I still think It's better then Thief 3. Only a few hours into it though.
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Dombat 1,918 posts
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Registered 10 years agoGamespot also had a live stream of the Xbox One version yesterday. I only caught the tail end of it, but they also commented on the dodgy frame rate.
I'm still curious about this game, but think it's an ideal one to get on PC when it's cheap. I've got too many games to play as it is anyway. -
Aretak wrote:
That was an Xbox One quick look?! I honestly thought it was 360. Being a member of the PC master race has spoiled me.
ChiefGB wrote:
The Xbone version runs like crap too, so you're not missing out on anything there. Giant Bomb did a Quick Look of the Xbone version yesterday and mentioned that they'd shelved plans of showing both versions since they ran equally poorly.
Dizzy wrote:
Oh shit!, mines just been dispatched oh well a lesson learnt there, if we've heard right 1080p does not always equal the best version :'(. Made worse by the fact I swapped it out from the xb1 version when the res was confirmed.
Checked it out at a friends place yesterday on PS4... framerate was not very good? He liked it... but never played the original. -
SomaticSense 15,062 posts
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Registered 16 years agoGiven that the PC version is apparently pretty scaleable, that other PC/PS4/XB1 multiformat games run pretty comparably, and that the new gen consoles' innards is basically PC architechture meaning ports are easier than ever. Is there any reasonable excuse for how shitty they run? -
ChiefGB 13,815 posts
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Registered 10 years agoI get the feeling the face off is being held back by the fact that they have been late supplying current gen versions as ign only reviewed those today saying they have a comparison up tomorrow. but it will be nothing like as informative as the df one and will probably just be a video. -
xxblindmonkeyxx 473 posts
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Registered 13 years agoneilka wrote:
Hmm what am I doing wrong in flyvpn, as my up in Google us registering in the us. But when steam loads it shows UK price? And thief locked? Any ideas?
It unlocks okay with FlyVPN I've played the first couple of chapters, like the reviews say there's nothing particularly wrong with it but it's just not very interesting... -
Two hours in to the PS4 version, and I'm actually quite enjoying it so far (this coming from a fan of the franchise since the original, and Thief 3 sitting in my top ten of favourite games off all-time).
I found it better not to compare it against the original games, but take it on face value for what it is in itself; and it's pretty good.
Visually it's very nice (albeit has the worst ocean animation I've seen in years), and the connection and feel your have within the environment it very slick. Akin to Killzone in some ways too, regarding weight; cool animations too.
Taking in to account Thief 4 is a 360/PS3 developed title with PS$/XBO/PC versions, and the troubled development it's had, I'm pleasantly surprised all in all.
Here's hoping Thief 5 will be green-lit, and can be a dedicated current gen title. I fully respect publishers need to wait until the PS4/XBO install base grows before they can leave last gen behind, but that can't come soon enough for me. The next two years or so are going to be frustrating (time frame when last gen stopped cross-gen development).
Anyway chaps. Check it it. You might ind yourselves liking it.
Edit: Not noticed any frame-rate issues so far.
Edited by scuffpuppies at 23:20:09 26-02-2014
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