Sonos Users' Thread Page 38

  • Dougs 8 Jan 2020 12:46:05 100,414 posts
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    https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/7/21055048/sonos-google-lawsuit-sues-speakers-assistant-amazon
  • HairyArse 8 Jan 2020 13:54:36 1,476 posts
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    I got one of the new Alexa-enabled Play:1s for Christmas but frustratingly you can't pair it with a previous-gen Play:1. Now it's sitting there un-used because I have no more rooms without Sonos.

    Edited by HairyArse at 14:56:41 08-01-2020
  • askew 8 Jan 2020 13:57:37 24,121 posts
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    You could add it to "Living Room 2" (or whatever) and then group them when playing music?
  • HairyArse 8 Jan 2020 14:57:06 1,476 posts
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    Yeah that's true, but I wanted a proper stereo pair.

    Edited by HairyArse at 15:06:38 08-01-2020
  • nickthegun 8 Jan 2020 15:20:44 87,711 posts
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    After the escapades with the sound bar, did you not think to google if two different types of speaker would pair?
  • HairyArse 8 Jan 2020 16:04:52 1,476 posts
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    I didn't buy it. Someone else bought it for me thinking I needed more speakers.
  • Dougs 8 Jan 2020 17:34:08 100,414 posts
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    Sell one of the other ones, buy another new one and pair those.
  • TheSaint 22 Jan 2020 08:40:10 20,950 posts
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    Anyone else get the email about the original Play 5 going end of life? Essentially if it remains in your system after May then none of your speakers will receive updates and features could potentially stop working anytime after that.

    Bit pissed off to be honest but nothing we can do about it.
  • Dougs 22 Jan 2020 08:46:04 100,414 posts
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    I saw that reported. Fucked up
  • monkman76 22 Jan 2020 08:55:25 18,987 posts
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    NONE of your speakers receive updates? Fuck, didn’t notice that part. That’s pretty shocking.
  • TheSaint 22 Jan 2020 08:59:27 20,950 posts
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    The workaround is to create a new household for the Play 5 to isolate it from the rest of the system. That kind of ruins the point of a Sonos system though but at least the other speakers will get updated.

    Just makes me worry how long it will be until the original play 1 gets the same treatment.
  • monkman76 22 Jan 2020 09:03:08 18,987 posts
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    Yeah that’s workable for me I guess in that I don’t ever pair the 5 with any other speakers. I imagine it’s a pain to manage two households within one app though?
  • Technoishmatt 22 Jan 2020 09:07:34 5,365 posts
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    Werent they offering discounts on replacements?
  • monkman76 22 Jan 2020 09:19:01 18,987 posts
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    30% off, but they’re still expensive after the discount. I’d rather just keep my perfectly-functioning device and not affect the other speakers!
  • nickthegun 22 Jan 2020 09:29:21 87,711 posts
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    Apparently Sonos are belatedly working on a ‘quarantine’ system.

    In very slight mitigation, what they are saying isn’t that much different to what happens on an iPhone or whatever.

    At some point the new features baked into the firmware are beyond what old hardware can support without degrading performance, so they stop producing updates for it.

    Then a third party app pushes out an update that leverages those new firmware features and *poof* you’re done.

    It’s like how WhatsApp suddenly stopped working on half the phones in the third world.

    Unfortunately, it’s almost an inevitability. It doesn’t mean it’s any easier to swallow and they have handled this terribly but it’s the price you pay for having a small computer with a speaker attached pumping your tunes out.

    Edited by nickthegun at 09:29:45 22-01-2020
  • TheSaint 22 Jan 2020 12:11:17 20,950 posts
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    I think the idea that the unit is effectively useless now and should just be thrown away annoys me more than anything. If I trade up they are just going to brick it despite the fact it works perfectly fine. That seems very irresponsible and unnecessarily wasteful in this day and age.

    I get the fact that it is an older machine with lower specs but it feels like they could work around that if they wanted to.
  • Blakester 22 Jan 2020 13:06:03 5,234 posts
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    I got the email and it pissed me off royally.

    Play 5 isn't exactly a cheap piece of kit so to essentially write it off and then upsell you is a very shitty move.
  • mrpon 22 Jan 2020 14:50:03 37,366 posts
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    Looks like I need to offload my ZP100s pronto before people catch on!
  • HairyArse 22 Jan 2020 16:25:13 1,476 posts
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    Play:5 Gen 1 owner here. Disappointed by this, especially when it gives my SONOT mate more ammo to constantly wheel out that particular meme.
  • chopsen 23 Jan 2020 11:32:44 21,958 posts
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    Being an early adopter, I have a number of gen1 5s (S5s as they were called) and yeah, that is a bit shit.

    What worries me is that so much functionality is now based on the phone controller app and not the PC controller, that even if you wanted to stay "retro" and not update and keep the old version of the PC software installed, a lot of current functionality is likely to vanish because it's difficult to download old versions of phone apps.

    I don't really use streaming services, and am quite happy with something that just plays my MP3 collection. Alexa and the like can go and fuck themselves.I'd be more than happy if never received another update, as what I liked sonos from the start for was that it did one thing well, rather thank being a multi-function device.

    I might download and save the current version of the PC app locally so I've got it for future. Is there any way of downloading the sonos phone controller .apk?
  • Dougs 23 Jan 2020 11:47:12 100,414 posts
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    Yeah, it'll be on .apk sites somewhere
  • nickthegun 23 Jan 2020 11:51:19 87,711 posts
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    See, I’m exactly the opposite. Other than the initial setup or setting tweak, I never use either the desktop or the phone app.

    Everything is either controlled by shouting at one of the voice enabled speakers or directly controlled through Spotify.
  • Dougs 23 Jan 2020 11:53:18 100,414 posts
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    I have an old Play 1 and don't have Alexa or whatever attached, so have to use the controller (and I am one of the 3 people in the UK who uses Deezer, so no direct control).
  • nickthegun 23 Jan 2020 11:57:51 87,711 posts
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    The Spotify app is pretty good. It will pick up any auth’d smart speaker or group of speakers on the network.
  • Dougs 23 Jan 2020 12:23:12 100,414 posts
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    I just can't be arsed to switch. I really like Deezer's algorithms and haven't been able to sort out importing my library and playlists etc into Spotify. Tried Apple and Amazon and they're not a patch on Deezer, surprisingly enough
  • You-can-call-me-kal 23 Jan 2020 17:21:36 23,013 posts
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    I had a original 5 that properly properly died, and after a lot of calls and whinging to Sonos they replaced it with a new model one.

    Just so you know...
  • gamecat 23 Jan 2020 18:03:59 1,230 posts
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    Deezer/Sonos user here too, prefer the discovery over Spotify and anything else really, the lack of intergration with Sonos is a bit annoying as is the lack of gapless playback, but its nothing too terrible. Theres some 3 year old thread on the Deezer forums about them working on having Sonos as part of the app, and they are really close.. .no really guys, we are super nearly close to getting it working.
  • chopsen 23 Jan 2020 18:07:02 21,958 posts
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    Lot of furious amateur product development going on over at reddit. They might have a point though: the legacy units can work as just dumb clients for streaming media server. Why don't Sonos just produce a "bridge" like unit which will have the necessary hardware specs to be forwardly compatible and serve the dumb legacy units.

    I'm sure people would stump up a fair bit of cash for that rather than replace multiple units.
  • Dougs 23 Jan 2020 18:22:37 100,414 posts
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    gamecat wrote:
    Deezer/Sonos user here too, prefer the discovery over Spotify and anything else really, the lack of intergration with Sonos is a bit annoying as is the lack of gapless playback, but its nothing too terrible. Theres some 3 year old thread on the Deezer forums about them working on having Sonos as part of the app, and they are really close.. .no really guys, we are super nearly close to getting it working.
    Ok, so that's 2 of us. Who's the other one?
  • Deleted user 23 January 2020 19:46:17
    Think I might not bother with Sonos anymore and just go back to separates, you only need a Bluetooth receiver really.

    Totally cuntish from Sonos, I've invested about 1.5k in their products, fuck them if they think I'll be buying replacements for anything that gets shut off. Wouldn't be surprised to see their product sales drop off.

    Edited by AaronTurner at 19:46:35 23-01-2020
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