Sonos Users' Thread Page 43

  • ozthegweat 9 Apr 2021 07:04:28 2,871 posts
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    There have been rumours of a smaller sub and also of Ones with an upfiring speaker for Atmos, could be that they don't want to repeat the situation with the Arc being on backorder for months and are holding off until the whole worldwide electronics shortage improves.
  • Zerobob 9 Apr 2021 09:24:02 2,939 posts
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    The Arc has always seemed like an odd proposition to me. The general consensus is that, yes, the Arc is better than the Beam, but not "twice the price better".

    Surely if you want an Atmos solution - with object-based sound sources - a single soundbar can never be the ideal solution.

    I believe the idea is it bounces sound off walls, but that's very room-dependant, and is never going to work particularly well.

    I'd have thought that a suite of tiny speakers that can be scattered around the room, and linked to your Sonos system (which knows their position relative to your soundbar/screen) would be a far better solution.

    Edited by Zerobob at 09:24:23 09-04-2021
  • ozthegweat 9 Apr 2021 13:50:35 2,871 posts
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    Instead of the Arc, they could have introduced a centre mode for the Beam, with two Ones/Fives/IKEA lamps/whatever as front left/right speakers. And then add 2 or 4 surround speakers, and 2 or 4 ceiling Atmos speakers.

    Edited by ozthegweat at 13:51:11 09-04-2021
  • chopsen 9 Apr 2021 19:37:25 21,884 posts
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    It depends what you're trying to achieve.

    I had a AV receiver and 7.1 speakers with floor standing fronts previously and I've still got a room with dinky 5.1 cambridge audio things.

    Undeniably discrete speakers properly set up sounds better for home cinema and gaming. However it does mean your lounge looks like a Richer Sounds showroom.

    My playbar + one surrounds + sub suit the environment far better and sound *good enough* to me. Plus I really really like the multi room music thing.

    Horses for courses.

    (Yes I know there's a Sonos thing you can plug in to an AV receiver. Tried it. Didn't like it.)
  • ozthegweat 9 Apr 2021 20:17:48 2,871 posts
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    Yeah you're right. With an Arc you'll replace a receiver, 3 speakers and a shit-ton on cables. Add two small Ones without running cables across your living room if you want surround.

    There are not a lot of soundbars systems without sub, but with wireless surrounds. Only three come to mind, two are from Sonos, the other one is from Bose.

    Edited by ozthegweat at 14:21:34 30-04-2021
  • ozthegweat 30 Apr 2021 14:22:29 2,871 posts
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    Have received the Arc. Very nice. Can't resist much longer getting two One SLs.
  • crestedzulu 3 May 2021 16:17:49 81 posts
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    Thank you to everyone for your advice and input.

    I went with the Arc and 2 SLís and could not be happier.

    Itís a stunning piece of kit and having just watched Bladerunner 2049 I canít wait to try more Atmos.
  • crestedzulu 3 May 2021 16:17:49 81 posts
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  • askew 5 May 2021 21:27:55 23,262 posts
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    I bought one of the Symfonisk "Bookshelf" speakers: it's a big unit.
  • TommyUnderwear 5 May 2021 21:52:20 378 posts
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    @askew how does it sound?
  • askew 5 May 2021 22:29:09 23,262 posts
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    At the equivalent volume, it's louder and bassier (boomier?) than the Play 1 it replaced. I don't quite know how the speakers inside the Play 1 are arranged, but the grill suggests they don't just point straight ahead. I suppose they do in the Symfonisk since the sides are solidÖ

    Hmm. Maybe I should have got the lamp!
  • Fourwisemen 5 May 2021 23:03:30 1,079 posts
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    Anyone picked a Roam up yet?
  • monkman76 6 May 2021 06:23:29 18,583 posts
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    I read a couple of reviews that said the Roam's audio quality isn't quite up to Sonos' usual standards, so I've decided to hold off for now. Or think about a Move - I've got a 30% discount code to use due to having a legacy speaker, so it almost seems a shame to use it on the Roam over something more expensive!

    Anyone got a Move?
  • Dougs 6 May 2021 06:26:16 99,139 posts
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    Was going to pick up a Roam this month but apparently a new tramampoline net was more important. I know it has a massive hole in it, but the fuckers would have bounced.
  • Dougs 6 May 2021 06:28:18 99,139 posts
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    The reviews I've read of the Roam are good though. I don't think the sound is as good as the Move but at the price, I don't expect it to.
  • monkman76 6 May 2021 06:39:36 18,583 posts
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    They're mostly good, and obviously it won't sound as good as the Move, but a couple suggested it doesn't compare that well to cheaper alternatives from other brands.

    I'll probably still end up with one, the Move is still a chunk even with 30% off.
  • Dougs 6 May 2021 06:51:04 99,139 posts
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    From what I've read, it's comparable to the likes of the UE Boom but is a tad more expensive. But I'm happy to pay that premium to get the Sonos ecosystem and not rely on crappy Bluetooth.
  • monkman76 6 May 2021 06:53:31 18,583 posts
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    Yeah, fair enough. I actually got a Wonderboom 2 (the smaller one) for £50 a couple of months back and that's actually pretty good.
  • ozthegweat 6 May 2021 07:55:23 2,871 posts
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    askew wrote:
    At the equivalent volume, it's louder and bassier (boomier?) than the Play 1 it replaced. I don't quite know how the speakers inside the Play 1 are arranged, but the grill suggests they don't just point straight ahead. I suppose they do in the Symfonisk since the sides are solidÖ

    Hmm. Maybe I should have got the lamp!
    Everybody knows lamps sound better than bookshelves man!

    On a serious note: the Play:1/One consist of a woofer and a tweeter, both pointing directly forward:

  • nickthegun 6 May 2021 08:08:16 86,445 posts
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    I saw a tear down on a YouTube channel a while ago. They have got exactly the same innards but they saved money on the case which is why the IKEA one sounds very slightly worse.

    It does, however, make it easier to mod and the guy soldered a sub output onto it, which was quite cool. He set up a stereo pair and a sub for under 300.
  • nickthegun 6 May 2021 08:16:03 86,445 posts
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    https://youtu.be/TiPPPu7j5DM
  • askew 6 May 2021 08:50:35 23,262 posts
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    The more ya know!
  • Fourwisemen 6 May 2021 23:06:46 1,079 posts
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    @monkman76

    The Move is an excellent, if a heavyweight portable. Itís great for taking into garden where it sounds particularly good and highlights the usual SONOS punch, or into the bathroom for a soak. It mainly sits in the kitchen where it does a fine job.

    No regrets on that purchase but would never take it on a foreign holiday (what are they??) because of the weight.

    This is where the Roam is of interest, less for the house but more for when I need to be away from the house and a speaker would come in handy. I just donít know where it would sit in my house.
  • UncleLou Moderator 7 May 2021 06:43:00 40,532 posts
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    A mate just bought a Roam. You know how the One just sounds bigger than it is? He said the Roam does not, but that it sounds exactly like it looks. :p

    Not sure what to do now, I wanted one for the .., how do you call it in English - allotment?
  • nickthegun 7 May 2021 08:00:18 86,445 posts
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    I would 1000% recommend a JBL Flip for that. They are absolutely fantastic. That market segment is packed with some great little speakers so you donít need a Sonos unless you really must have it integrated into your current set up.

    The JBL is super rugged, itís waterproof, battery lasts ages, the Bluetooth is really strong and it sounds great. Definitely check out a comparison video before you buy.
  • TommyUnderwear 7 May 2021 08:12:22 378 posts
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    I bought the Roam a few weeks back. Impressive sound for the size. I use it mainly in the shower or on the kitchen window sill as sometimes the One and Five are a little too punchy. The missus keeps telling me to turn them down whereas with the Roam it doesn't seem as invasive. The only concern which I am monitoring is battery life. It seems to drain quite fast so I am checking to see what is happening there before I think of contacting support.
  • UncleLou Moderator 7 May 2021 08:33:25 40,532 posts
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    @nickthegun Great, thanks! It really doesn't need to be a Sonos.

    There seem to be different Flip models, should I look for a particular one?
  • nickthegun 7 May 2021 08:35:33 86,445 posts
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    Iíve got the flip 3. I think they are just literally version numbers with incremental upgrades, the flip 5 being the newest.
  • UncleLou Moderator 7 May 2021 09:02:08 40,532 posts
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    Think Iíll just order a Flip 5, thanks again. There also seems to be a ďflip essentialĒ, which has completely different technology though and doesnít seem to sound quite as good, all in all.
  • Dougs 7 May 2021 09:19:07 99,139 posts
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    I don't desperately need it to be part of the Sonos ecosystem, but I do find BT flakey as fuck, annoyingly so. I might grab a 5 from Amazon and see how it goes and send it back if it bothers me that much.
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