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  • You-can-call-me-kal 14 Feb 2019 19:37:17 14,263 posts
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    Lolcazette.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 14 Feb 2019 19:37:30 14,263 posts
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    Dirty cheaty team.
  • Dougs 14 Feb 2019 19:38:53 88,281 posts
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    We actually played OK first half, bar the piss poor free kick to give away and subsequent (customary) defending. But 2nd half has been dreadful. And that just compounds it. He missed him, but still. Gotta laugh, eh?
  • Dougs 14 Feb 2019 19:47:27 88,281 posts
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    Still, gives me a reason to bother going next week I guess!
  • beastmaster 14 Feb 2019 19:47:54 19,070 posts
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    AFTV will be fun tonight.
  • mad_caddy 14 Feb 2019 20:54:34 3,566 posts
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    I'll roll my usual line out. New manager. Building a team. Still in a good position. Horrible away game. Can easily turn it around.

    It's not like we will be throwing anything away this season, we're not known as the nearly boys. We have done well to be where we are with some new faces after so many years with Wenger.
  • THFourteen 14 Feb 2019 20:58:09 51,171 posts
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    @mad_caddy

    Agree with all of that. The main concern is to build a team you need funds. And there are none. So he’s stuck with the dross he has sadly which means no progress.
  • Dougs 14 Feb 2019 22:15:00 88,281 posts
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    It's just a mixed bag. I can't really identify with a particular style he's going for and our defence is horrific. And some of the games have been dire. But that said, we've improved results wise from last year (both in terms of points on the board at this stage and head to head), so he's doing something right. Even if I don't know what that is. :-/
  • The-Bodybuilder 15 Feb 2019 09:32:17 17,539 posts
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    I think we just need to take an objective view. There is the extreme of wanting the manager out without any discernable time, but equally there's the extreme of defending the manager to the tilt and ignoring very fair and worrying concerns.

    There is every argument this is our lost worse in years. We played a (no offence) back-water team, who haven't played a professional game in 2 months, and lost 7 of their starting 11 key players on Bosmans over Christmas.

    Our only discernable playing style seems to be the fullback overlap. Early in the season it was between Bellerin and Kola, and now only Kola due to injury. However surely a coach should have more playstyle beyond fullback overlap?

    I'm no an Ozil fan by any stretch (as the arsenal group will show), but is Suarez better? He was adamant he wanted Suarez, who is his first official "pick", even against some within Arsenal, like Sven. We now know he wanted guys like Banega and Nzonzi, players I do not believe will take us to the next level. It's a concern that's his views of what he wants, as it's a worry that may be his level.

    And outside of the Europa, none of his teams were known for any specific style of play behind working hard and pragmatic.

    It's fair to be concerned, and statistically speaking it was always far more likely the person we chose first post-Wenger would be the wrong/short term choice.
  • neems 15 Feb 2019 11:39:24 4,408 posts
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    I didn't know about the Bosman thing, but Bate Borisov have had one or two decent results in Europe over the last few years. I certainly wouldn't fancy playing them in their own back yard.
  • Dougs 15 Feb 2019 11:41:11 88,281 posts
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    Beat Bayern 3-1 at home. Albeit 6 years ago
  • Blackmarsh63 15 Feb 2019 11:44:08 2,066 posts
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    neems wrote:
    I didn't know about the Bosman thing, but Bate Borisov have had one or two decent results in Europe over the last few years. I certainly wouldn't fancy playing them in their own back yard.
    A team that's 9/1 to win a home are not particularly good.
  • THFourteen 15 Feb 2019 11:44:19 51,171 posts
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    I'm more than happy with Emery. We are performing way above expectations, results wise, the players we have combined with injuries to key players like Bellerend and Holding, we should probably have the same number of points as Everton.

    People just need to readjust their expectations with the new reality.
  • Gruff 15 Feb 2019 13:24:31 3,392 posts
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    Holding being a "Key" player says everything you need to know about the Arsenal defence
  • SnackPlissken 21 Feb 2019 12:33:05 740 posts
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    Holding is pretty decent. He's been chucked in at the deep end at times when Arsenal played just Xhaka, a high line etc... like what do you expect from the guy? This season you can see an improvement. Not saying he’s a worldie, but you look across the top 6 clubs and there’s a handful you’d say yeah top top class m8888

    Anyway fully expect a shit game tonight
  • Dougs 21 Feb 2019 12:46:04 88,281 posts
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    Holding was great in 2017, poor last year and then emerged under Emery as absolutely a key player. He wasn't showy, but did his job well and had cut out the mistakes. Not to mention being able to carry the ball out from the back, a key part of EmeryBall. Desperate shame he's missed the rest of the season.

    Predictions for (actual) attendance? 30k tops I reckon. Probably less. Most people are still at work ffs!
  • askew 21 Feb 2019 12:52:39 18,646 posts
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    I had a weird dream that Arsenal lost 2-0.
  • kentmonkey 21 Feb 2019 13:44:11 22,880 posts
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    @askew you say weird........
  • Dougs 21 Feb 2019 13:51:52 88,281 posts
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    Entirely rational if you ask me!
  • reddevil93 21 Feb 2019 18:02:33 14,825 posts
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    God damn, wonder how pissed the rest of the Bate team are with that OG scorer. Not that it looks like it would matter with the way Arsenal have started.

    Edit: nvm, looks like plenty of potential for Arsenlols with that defending

    Edited by reddevil93 at 18:06:21 21-02-2019
  • askew 21 Feb 2019 19:14:17 18,646 posts
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    Are any strikers playing?
  • Dougs 21 Feb 2019 22:37:40 88,281 posts
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    None that were any good. Comfortable enough win but still punctuated with moments of calamitous defending and hilarity. Quite enjoyed it and more turned up than I expected.
  • reddevil93 22 Feb 2019 15:23:54 14,825 posts
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    Ouch, sounds like hundreds of Arsenal fans have been stung after booking travel to Rennes then having the legs reversed due to UEFA's rule regarding multiple teams playing at home in the same city on the same night. You'd hope the club would do something to compensate them.
  • THFourteen 22 Feb 2019 18:28:53 51,171 posts
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    Pah i'll miss the home leg as well, the day before i'm off skiing so will need to see the kids and do bedtime, plus 7am flight on the Friday.
  • askew 7 Mar 2019 18:39:18 18,646 posts
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    Lulz
  • beastmaster 7 Mar 2019 19:19:11 19,070 posts
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    Lol
  • Armoured_Bear 7 Mar 2019 19:24:33 25,910 posts
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    Doesn't sound as if Arsenal are having a great night.
  • mad_caddy 7 Mar 2019 19:36:16 3,566 posts
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    Not a good game at all, numberwang off. I think that's thinking g ahead to the weekend.
    If we can hold 2-1 away with 10 men I'll take it home.
  • mad_caddy 7 Mar 2019 19:42:02 3,566 posts
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    Oh.
  • beastmaster 7 Mar 2019 19:42:03 19,070 posts
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    Lol
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