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EG on the telly, 14/7/04 talking about why the ipod is doing so well.... • Page 3
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unwashed 1,857 posts
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Mike_Hunt 23,524 posts
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Registered 19 years agoLutz wrote:
Don't worry. I'll be presenting you with a bill for carrage.
ssuellid wrote:
MH, I'd apply for a credit card for the extra fuel that brick is costing you!
Mike_Hunt wrote:
lost_soul wrote:
Yup.
Have you still got Lutz's Xbox in the back of your car, Mike?
[MH]
Top Gear last night calculated that just carrying a 28g moustache in your car would cost you an extra £5 in petrol a year.
I should be over your way again tonight (about 6:30-ish). Will you be in?
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thrawn 899 posts
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Registered 19 years agoMenace wrote:
I haven't seen the UI or held the gadget but from photos I think it looks pretty damn ugly.. (the mini is somewhat less ugly than the big one) - apparently I'm the only one here that doesn't like the "stylish" design..
I have played with one in the flesh and couldn't understand why everyone raves about the design. I wouldn't say an iPod is ugly, but I don't think it's pretty either. Very meh about the design. -
I like the look and design a lot, but to use a term I don't particularly like, am "meh" about the price. -
pjmaybe 70,666 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI think the iPOD's a nice design, but what sells it to me (or what would if I had the funds) is the simplicity of the upload/download interface, and the sheer durability of the thing...I mean at least it FEELS like you're getting your moneysworth when you pick the thing up.
I am surprised it's got as big a following as it has, (shows how much disposable income people have got!) price wise it's a very expensive toy but you can't fault Apple for making a market their own...
Now all we've got to do is convince 'em to start making games consoles
Imagine what an apple-designed console would look like??
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ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agopjmaybe wrote:
Now all we've got to do is convince 'em to start making games consoles Imagine what an apple-designed console would look like??
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Pike 13,459 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI think that apart from nice design and ease of use Apple really got the pricing right. An iPod is affordable to most people with a disposable income, at least after saving for a few months, but it's still expensive enough to maintain an air of exclusivity. -
ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agootto wrote:
It is fugly and they did release it..gif)
People forget that Apple made super-ugly computers and user interfaces up until quite recently. First the iMac, and then OS X, before that I honestly hand on heart can't say that they looked any better than the competition. I know WOPR'll kill me for that.
Nah, the first generation Macs were lovely compared to the IBM PCs of the time, both in looks and ease of use. The design mirrored the useability - simple and functional. I think the current generation of Macs look very plasticky and tacky in comparison. -
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Registered 20 years agootto wrote:
And you can buy all these Apple products and more from Otto-san Computers, official apple resellers/fanbois
You know you can get an eMac for just over £500, and an iBook for just over £600? This thing about Apple only selling hyper-expensive stuff just isn't true any more..gif)
Seriously tho my issue with tha Ipod is how it is portrayed in the media as being synonimous (sp?) with digital music regardless of the fact there are cheaper and better competitiors. E.G. in the the latest issue of What HiFi magazine which is pretty much the definitive impartial source for reviews on modern audio equipment they had a supplement all about portable digital music players. The review was so spectacularly biased towards the Ipod, praising all the good points and not mentioning a single issue where as the competition were given a distressly unfair rough ride. They even went as far as comparing an older 10GB version of the IRiver at some ridiculously inflated price to the current 20GB Ipod which frankly shows a tabloid level of bias. I bought myself a 40GB IRiver in APRIL for £300, a full £100 less than the equivalently sized Ipod and with a level of functionality that would embarass all Ipod users. Perhaps i'm just being naive but shouldn't the best get a fair press? -
Pike 13,459 posts
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Registered 18 years agorhythm wrote:
Good points Xensor, but as we've touched upon, the incredibly simple and catchy name has been adopted to stand for all HDD players
It's the old "Dyson Hoover" and "Sega Playstation" thing again
If that'sd the case Apple better watch their back so that they don't lose their brand name then.
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ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agoXensor wrote:
E.G. in the the latest issue of What HiFi magazine which is pretty much the definitive impartial source for reviews on modern audio equipment they had a supplement all about portable digital music players. The review was so spectacularly biased towards the Ipod, praising all the good points and not mentioning a single issue where as the competition were given a distressly unfair rough ride.
A) it was last months supplement
B) I read all the HD reviews and IIRC only the iRiver got slated - e.g the Zen Xtra got a very favourable review.
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GrandTheftApu 6,117 posts
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Registered 18 years agooneiros wrote:
I was actually referring to iTunes the jukebox software, and not the iTunes Music Store, and its ability to sync your music collection across your ipod and computer.
GrandTheftApu wrote:
Is it? Last time I looked, hardly any UK labels seemed to want to have their songs made available on iTunes - I tend to think it's more having a sexy place to put your illegitimate downloads...
In addition to the large storage capacity, the seamless integration with iTunes is one of the ipod's major selling points, and is I think still unequalled. -
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Registered 20 years agossuellid wrote:
Ok fair shout on point a but on point b it really felt they were targetting the IRiver for bad press by reviewing a loewer spec version you can't buy anymore at a ridiculously inflated price. And i'm sorry but none of the other reviews gushed like they did about the Ipod - you cannot deny the obvious bias.
A) it was last months supplement
B) I read all the HD reviews and IIRC only the iRiver got slated - e.g the Zen Xtra got a very favourable review.
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ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agoTBH the supplement seemed to be pretty much recycled from old reviews. Maybe IRiver did not supply them with a newer HD player to review. They do love the iPod but most of it is justified. -
Xensor 1,054 posts
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Registered 20 years agootto wrote:
OK apologies for the length of this but you'll get a full appreciation of the functionality...
Xensor wrote:
Heheh, go on then, embarrass me - details please!
with a level of functionality that would embarass all Ipod users.
Massive 40GB Capacity and CD Quality recording - The iHP-140 has a 40GB capacity allowing the storage of up to 1400 hours of music. This player also acts as a portable, external hard-disk allowing the transfer of files between home and office.
40GB Hard Disc Memory - The iRiver iHP140 comes with a 40GB built in hard-disc drive which delivers up to 1400 hours of music.
16 Hours Playtime - Listen to your favourite music for up to 16 hours using the player's rechargeable Li-Polymer battery.
Multi-format support - The iRiver iHP 140 player supports MP3 files, Windows Media Audio (WMA), ASF, Ogg Vorbis and WAV files (11/22/44KHz, 16bit, Mono/Stereo).
4 Line Display - iHP-140 comes with a 4 line display remote with an easy to use and innovative menusystem. Can also be operated using the navi button on the player. The display also allows text files to be displayed.
FM Radio - Stereo/Mono FM Radio with the possibility to save up to 20 of your favorite radio stations. Microphone/Dictaphone - Record straight from the player's microphone/dictaphone straight to MP3, using a bit rate from 40kbps up to 320kbps.
Real Time MP3 Encoding - Record straight to MP3 using the players optical or analog line-in or from the microphone/dictaphone. Bit rate quality from 40kbps up to 320kbps.
Superior sound with a loud out effect - iRiver's focus on sound quality is second to none with high quality software and hardware.
SRS 3D Sound Support - Experience a range of superb sound effects with SRS (Sound Retrieval System - a 3D sound technology of SRS Labs, Inc.), SRS WOW & TrueBass.
Supports 6 Different Equalizer (EQ) Settings - Normal, Rock, Jazz, Classic, U-bass and one User EQ.
Digital Optical-in/out, analogue-in/out & Mic-in- The iHP-140 is packed with input and output features allowing you to plug in an external soundsystem, or external microphone, to the player's optical or analogue sockets for high-quality recordings.
Acts as a portable, external hard-disk - Use the player as a portable hard-disk and transport files between the job, school and your home. The player shows as an external hard drive directly under Windows Explorer on your PC. No installation needed (except Windows 98).
WinAmp .m3u Playlist Support - The iHP-140 has the ability to read WinAmp's playlist files, .m3u.
Upgradeable Firmware - Upgrade the MP3 player firmware to support future file formats and improved features.
Windows and Mac compatible - The iHP-140 supports Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP and Mac.
38 Different Languages Supported - Configure your player so it shows the correct ID3 tag.
ID3 Tag Info Support - Reads all types of ID3 tags (V1. V2.0, 3.0 & 4.0.)
Ogg Vorbis Support - This MP3 Player is one of the first MP3 players to support the new and very popular music format, Ogg Vorbis and represents a quantum leap forward from earlier models.
Perfect direct digital recording to MP3 - By connecting your portable CD player or home sound system to the optical line-in, the iHP-140 MP3 Player encodes MP3 files (or high-quality WAV files) directly.
Just a couple of things i'd like to highlight like the fully-functional inline remote with 4-line LCD display or the fact it supports 5 formats, or the fact that it can encode from an optical source on the fly or the most important fact that you can buy the 40GB version for £255 inc vat and delivery as opposed to £400 for the equivalent pod... yes i'm a fanboi but for obvious reasons and no i didn't want this to turn into a willy waving contest but there you have it. -
Machiavel 5,964 posts
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Registered 19 years agoXensor wrote:
i didn't want this to turn into a willy waving contest but there you have it.
Is it big in Japan? -
Nemesis 20,312 posts
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Registered 20 years agoTiger_Walts wrote:
Kruds, I dare you to 'hit on' the lovely Natasha Kapinsky.
G'wan, you know you want to.
G/friend saw her the other day at the studio and she's TINY apparently. -
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Registered 20 years agoMassive 40GB Capacity and CD Quality recording - The iHP-140 has a 40GB capacity allowing the storage of up to 1400 hours of music. This player also acts as a portable, external hard-disk allowing the transfer of files between home and office.
Same as the iPod. You can transfer files about on it should you wish to.
40GB Hard Disc Memory - The iRiver iHP140 comes with a 40GB built in hard-disc drive which delivers up to 1400 hours of music.
10,000 on the 40GB iPod, but that's dependant on what bitrate and encoding method you use.
16 Hours Playtime - Listen to your favourite music for up to 16 hours using the player's rechargeable Li-Polymer battery.
8 hours on the iPod, but wonder what the weight is.
Multi-format support - The iRiver iHP 140 player supports MP3 files, Windows Media Audio (WMA), ASF, Ogg Vorbis and WAV files (11/22/44KHz, 16bit, Mono/Stereo).
iPod supports AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 (32 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible, AIFF, Apple lossless and WAV.
4 Line Display - iHP-140 comes with a 4 line display remote with an easy to use and innovative menusystem. Can also be operated using the navi button on the player. The display also allows text files to be displayed.
1.67 inch (diagonal) liquid crystal display with blue-white LED backlight 138-by-110-pixel resolution, 0.22-mm dot pitch. Display allows calendar, contacts, games (yay), alarm clock. Partymix to do random songs, custom menu to change your layout.
FM Radio - Stereo/Mono FM Radio with the possibility to save up to 20 of your favorite radio stations. Microphone/Dictaphone - Record straight from the player's microphone/dictaphone straight to MP3, using a bit rate from 40kbps up to 320kbps.
You can do this with add-ons, should you wish.
Real Time MP3 Encoding - Record straight to MP3 using the players optical or analog line-in or from the microphone/dictaphone. Bit rate quality from 40kbps up to 320kbps.
Oooh, that's a nice snazzy pirate idea.
Superior sound with a loud out effect - iRiver's focus on sound quality is second to none with high quality software and hardware.
Again, dependant on encoding method. Can't really comment on this one, but AAC is meant to be quite good too.
SRS 3D Sound Support - Experience a range of superb sound effects with SRS (Sound Retrieval System - a 3D sound technology of SRS Labs, Inc.), SRS WOW & TrueBass.
No comment on that one.
Supports 6 Different Equalizer (EQ) Settings - Normal, Rock, Jazz, Classic, U-bass and one User EQ.
20 on the iPod. You can also set you mix preference per track on iTunes and it transfers this across with the sync. Saves you pissing about. You can override this if necessary.
Digital Optical-in/out, analogue-in/out & Mic-in- The iHP-140 is packed with input and output features allowing you to plug in an external soundsystem, or external microphone, to the player's optical or analogue sockets for high-quality recordings.
More options there, definately.
Acts as a portable, external hard-disk - Use the player as a portable hard-disk and transport files between the job, school and your home. The player shows as an external hard drive directly under Windows Explorer on your PC. No installation needed (except Windows 98).
Oooh you said that above!
WinAmp .m3u Playlist Support - The iHP-140 has the ability to read WinAmp's playlist files, .m3u.
iTunes playlists come across and are available from the top menu.
Upgradeable Firmware - Upgrade the MP3 player firmware to support future file formats and improved features.
Same.
Windows and Mac compatible - The iHP-140 supports Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP and Mac.
Same.
38 Different Languages Supported - Configure your player so it shows the correct ID3 tag.
14 on the iPod with the option to see any character at once encoded in the file. Languages: English, French, German, Japanese, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, Danish, Norwegian, Finnish, Swedish, Korean, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese
ID3 Tag Info Support - Reads all types of ID3 tags (V1. V2.0, 3.0 & 4.0.)
Can't comment on that.
Ogg Vorbis Support - This MP3 Player is one of the first MP3 players to support the new and very popular music format, Ogg Vorbis and represents a quantum leap forward from earlier models.
No comment.
Perfect direct digital recording to MP3 - By connecting your portable CD player or home sound system to the optical line-in, the iHP-140 MP3 Player encodes MP3 files (or high-quality WAV files) directly.
Again, quite nice. Saves having to use a PC in the middle of it if that's your preference.
So, swings and roundabouts really. -
ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years ago/Looks at 60GB Zen with replaceable battery and dirt cheap price tag.
Anyone got a bigger ruler? -
Nemesis 20,312 posts
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Registered 20 years agoWell, it's not measuring, that's the thing about the iPod you see. It goes past all that technical bollocks and moves it to the background. Which is where it should be.
Interface and design is everything and that's what appeals.
IMO.
Fuck. That sounded a bit fanboyish. I'd best pack that shit in. -
Xensor 1,054 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI probably didn't make this clear but i just lifted all that text from the website where i bought it so any repetition is their fault!
Can i just point out that the IRiver actually has two backlit LCD displays - a very large one on the main unit as well as a smaller one on the remote. Not sure dimensions but i could find out. Also not sure about weight but it aint gonna be that much difference i'd say. As regards the interface - well it's as complex as you want it to be. You can generate a database to do searchs by genre, artist, album etc or a standard files and folders search. On the main unit its a simple little context sensitive joystick and with three buttons down one side and a fourth on the other...
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Oh and IRiver will change the battery when its when it no longer charges tho there is a cost... -
Nemesis 20,312 posts
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Registered 20 years agoIt's Darth Vadar's iPod. -
JaysonG 830 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI put the same 192kbps MP3 onto my brothers iPod and onto my iHP and used my Sony MDR-EX71's and it does sound better on the iHP. -
Nemesis wrote:
Word, bro. \m/
I'd best pack that shit in.
To me it's a massive waste that they don't have far more functions. I'd prefer games, too, please.
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I think you're all missing the point that we're meant to be offering reasons as to why IPOD has become so popular, not necessarily why it's better than any of the competition. It's all opinion.
/Feels like old man otto
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yegon 6,511 posts
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Registered 18 years agoPointless willy waving apart, the big question is how satisfied people are with their purchase and would they swap for free given the chance.
Myself, I wouldn't swap my 40g iPod (cost me £340) for anything else on the market as it absolutely, positively suits MY needs down to the ground. I studied all the different options and the iPod was the right one for me - the battery and the lack of Ogg and WMA support is a big non issue for me, while the excellent UI and seamless interface with iTunes completely sold it to me. I'm sure Xensor is equally satisfied with his iRiver. The only future development that interests me is a smaller, solid state equivalent - my trusty old Muvo has gym duties in the meantime.
We should all be grateful that it isn't 20 years ago. I remember my first personal stereo - Alba, brick sized, took 4xAA batteries, only had play, forward and stop. -
Nemesis 20,312 posts
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Registered 20 years agoEwwwwwwww. Cassette players.
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ssuellid 19,142 posts
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Registered 20 years agootto wrote:
this man is a knob.
Why? He is right about MP3 - even 192kbps sounds shite compared to either high bit rate AAC or WMA.
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pjmaybe 70,666 posts
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Registered 20 years agoIf that man came up to me and said "can I share your music, little boy" I'd either
1) Run away screaming or
2) kick him swiftly in the knackers
Peej -
aye, a fair amount of knobishness, but i like my white earphones personally.
Imagine what an apple-designed console would look like??.gif)
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