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  • Deleted user 8 January 2019 21:02:12
    SambaApe wrote:
    @AddyJB Imagine how many miscellaneous sperm are adorning every cavity.
    I've given it a big lick all over to clear out the smeg.
  • fontgeeksogood 13 Jan 2019 21:24:27 9,712 posts
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    Aight nerds.

    So, my cheap Dell lasted about two weeks. Will not POST.

    Have tried:

    - Multimetered the fucking stupid proprietary PSU, each required wire reporting ~ 12 volts as needed
    - Removed everything but the two power cables to motherboard and pressed PSU test button - fans start
    - Added every component back, one by one, using PSU test button, green light for all
    - looking for blown caps etc on mboard
    - removed CMOS battery, replaced after many minutes
    - punching it and calling it a cunt

    I've got another PSU as it was my thought but waiting for the 8pin proprietary stupid fucking Dell to 24 pin normal ATX cable to come from China (by rickshaw, seemingly).

    So I can't try another PSU or try this PSU in another machine. Shorting the pinouts with a paper clip gets the PSU fan going and as above, the multimeter reports all looks within range.

    Could it still be the PSU
  • Carlo 13 Jan 2019 21:42:08 21,272 posts
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    @fontgeeksogood does the POST give you any bleeps?

    The long/short beep combination can give you the reason for the failure.
  • fontgeeksogood 13 Jan 2019 21:50:22 9,712 posts
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    Nope, no beeps. It's FUCKED
  • Mr_Sleep 13 Jan 2019 21:54:21 23,340 posts
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    Often it not going to post at all is a memory error. If you have any other memory lying around it might be worth giving that a go.
  • fontgeeksogood 13 Jan 2019 21:57:22 9,712 posts
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    I'd expect it to at least attempt a start (and beep) without RAM installed. It doesn't do that.

    My thoughts are:

    - somehow still PSU?
    - motherboard (I'm fucked if I'm voltage checking that cunt)
    - power button (feels extremely unlikely)
    - aliens
  • fontgeeksogood 13 Jan 2019 21:59:08 9,712 posts
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    I'm half hoping the new cable doesn't sort it so I can take it out to the boonies and smash it up and throw its mangled carcass into the sea
  • b-rk 13 Jan 2019 22:01:33 1,249 posts
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    Sounds like the PSU is knackered, chief. 8-pin instead of 24, you say? :/


    edit

    What Dell is it? Got a link please.

    Edited by b-rk at 22:02:34 13-01-2019
  • fontgeeksogood 13 Jan 2019 22:05:05 9,712 posts
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  • fontgeeksogood 13 Jan 2019 22:07:15 9,712 posts
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    It's a Dell Optiplex 9020 mini tower with i7 processor.

    Well, it WOULD BE IF THE FUCKING THING WORKED

    And yes, they put in a proprietary PSU in these, because they're cunts
  • fontgeeksogood 13 Jan 2019 22:08:57 9,712 posts
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    What doesn't make sense is the voltages all look okay when tested. I guess I'm only doing one pin at a time though...
  • b-rk 13 Jan 2019 22:10:43 1,249 posts
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    This has a 1050ti, right? Have you tried taking out the gpu and using the igp?
  • fontgeeksogood 13 Jan 2019 22:14:29 9,712 posts
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    I've taken everything out, memory, removed power from optical and hard drives, tried it with just CPU and mboard drawing power...still nothing. The 1050ti arrived AFTER it shat the bed anyway...
  • b-rk 13 Jan 2019 22:19:47 1,249 posts
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    Ah. Well it's either the board or psu, most likely the psu. When the adaptor arrives you'll be ok.
  • fontgeeksogood 13 Jan 2019 22:21:16 9,712 posts
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    And if I'm not, woe betide Rodger Dell
  • nickthegun 14 Jan 2019 08:00:57 81,764 posts
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    Outside chance, I've seen fucked USB devices prevent a machine from hitting post.
  • fontgeeksogood 20 Jan 2019 18:49:19 9,712 posts
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    So, new PSU in the old RIG, same issue. So I figure, fuck this shit, new motherboard. Which meant new case because Dell are cunts.

    And...still no joy. Power spins the fans (other than CPU cooler) for a second and nothing else starts.

    The only thing it feels it can be now is the CPU, which is unusual..
  • Spectral 20 Jan 2019 18:58:05 6,382 posts
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    Talking of beeps, do you know for sure it has ever beeped? A lot of PC's no longer even have the speaker for it.

    Looks like you've narrowed it down to CPU or RAM. Hard to know which without trial and error and they are so dependent on each other to function at all.

    Edited by Spectral at 18:59:16 20-01-2019
  • THFourteen 20 Jan 2019 21:41:22 53,682 posts
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    Build your own they said. Itís easy they said.

    PC
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  • fontgeeksogood 20 Jan 2019 21:52:10 9,712 posts
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    Problem is, it isn't my build my own otherwise it'd be more likely to work or RTM Mr Director. There's still a couple of components which are out of a shitty Dell.

    Good point about the PC speaker...
  • b-rk 21 Jan 2019 02:37:24 1,249 posts
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    Hm, youíve tried everything it seems. Could be something trivial like a blown fuse in the plug? Have you tried different sockets?
  • fontgeeksogood 21 Jan 2019 06:40:42 9,712 posts
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    Surely the fans wouldn't spin if the fuse was fucked? Anyway, I checked the voltages of the previous PSU (using the same power cable) with a multimeter
  • b-rk 21 Jan 2019 16:15:17 1,249 posts
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    Aye true, stupid silly hours suggestion. So, um, there could be a short, the uh...motherboard standoffs? Long shot, otherwise a problem with the actual power button. Surely it can't be the CPU. :/

    edit

    I'm getting oddly cheesed off you didn't build your own RIG. Sorry, I know that isn't helpful.

    Edited by b-rk at 16:24:35 21-01-2019
  • TitanWarlord93 23 Jan 2019 12:53:12 465 posts
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    I'm looking to buy and upgrade a new PC desktop. I currently have a FX 8350 and GTX 1060 3GB with 1TB HDD and 12GB Ram.

    I am looking to get the one with 16GB and possibly 2TB HDD.Also getting GTX 1060 6GB or GTX 1070. I am unsure whether if I should get i5 8400 or Ryzen 2600 maybe i7 8700k.
  • grey_matters 23 Jan 2019 13:07:45 5,265 posts
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    TitanWarlord93 wrote:
    I'm looking to buy and upgrade a new PC desktop. I currently have a FX 8350 and GTX 1060 3GB with 1TB HDD and 12GB Ram.

    I am looking to get the one with 16GB and possibly 2TB HDD.Also getting GTX 1060 6GB or GTX 1070. I am unsure whether if I should get i5 8400 or Ryzen 2600 maybe i7 8700k.
    What is your current one shit at? Seem like it should be solid all the way up to VR. And the new one isn't good enough for a 4K leap. Plenty of nice steps in between, don't get me wrong, but if you could end up disappointed in the moderate improvement if you don't have a precise reason for it.
  • Tomo 23 Jan 2019 13:32:28 17,702 posts
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    Aye, that is really not worth the upgrade. Going from 3GB to 6GB 1060 is going to make little difference.
  • THFourteen 23 Jan 2019 14:15:28 53,682 posts
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    on that motherboard you are pretty much at "buy" rather than upgrade right?

    One suggestion, keep the 1tb hd, and buy a second smaller ssd drive to run games and windows on. will be the biggest single difference that you can make to a PC thesedays. 500gb crucial MX500 is currently £58 on amazon uk.

    Definitely agree, keep your GPU and just get a new motherboard, CPU and RAM first, you can always go for a better card later in the year if you need one.
  • TitanWarlord93 23 Jan 2019 15:46:36 465 posts
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    Cheers guys.

    I'm going to keep my GPU. I definitely need to get a new CPU for sure as I had my FX 8350 for a while now so bout time. Need to decide whether if I should get an Intel i5 8400 or Ryzen 5 2600

    Definitely getting a SSD drive too as I not had it yet.

    Much appreciate the advice that really helped cleared it up :)
  • grey_matters 23 Jan 2019 16:19:00 5,265 posts
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    TitanWarlord93 wrote:
    Cheers guys.

    I'm going to keep my GPU. I definitely need to get a new CPU for sure as I had my FX 8350 for a while now so bout time. Need to decide whether if I should get an Intel i5 8400 or Ryzen 5 2600

    Definitely getting a SSD drive too as I not had it yet.

    Much appreciate the advice that really helped cleared it up :)
    Yeah, THFourteen is a good man to listen to on this stuff.
    Definitely get a SSD drive. Tomorrow even.
    As for your 8350 + 1060, I'm still on a 1055T that doesn't overclock along with a 480. Grand for 1080 and VR. Although I'm mostly playing slower, older games these days anyway. Will upgrade in a year or two now though, whenever the next console cycle is.
  • grey_matters 23 Jan 2019 16:26:02 5,265 posts
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    Here you go:
    1TB SSD

    Pick that up (Or something like it), migrate everything across. It'll feel like a new PC. Wait a bit for the next round of CPUs and do an upgrade then. GPUs will be cheaper then too.

    /cheapo advice but this is the thread for it

    Edited by grey_matters at 16:26:46 23-01-2019
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