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  • Tonka 1 Jun 2020 06:18:52 30,893 posts
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    I got stuck on the second one where they start out like a Jane Austen novel.

    And yeah, the terminology.
  • Rodney 1 Jun 2020 07:08:04 4,465 posts
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    The first half of the second book basically is a Jane Austen novel.

    O'Brien was a big fan of Austen so I don't think this is an accident and I often describe the series as Jane Austen but with more guns and decapitations.

    The character bits are my favourite parts though and the second book sets up some of the main characters for the rest of the series as well as establishing the dynamic between Maturin and Aubrey proper (there's a storyline between them in the first book that I always think seems out of place compared to the rest of the series).

    The books are genuinely laugh out loud funny as well.
  • DasBooter 1 Jun 2020 07:25:27 488 posts
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    No Doctor, the *starboard* side..

    Never gets old
  • Rodney 1 Jun 2020 07:41:30 4,465 posts
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    So many good lines.

    '...they have chosen their cake, and they must lie in it'

    'you mean, they cannot have their bed and eat it'

    'No, no, it is not quite that, neither. I mean - I wish you would not confuse my mind, Stephen'
  • Rodney 1 Jun 2020 07:53:13 4,465 posts
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    I also love the ongoing joke that Jack keeps making shit jokes that make Stephen roll his eyes.

    Edited by Rodney at 07:58:42 01-06-2020
  • TechnoHippy 1 Jun 2020 07:54:13 17,470 posts
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    Actually I've just realised that I've seen the film, but not read any of the books. I will have to remedy that.
  • brokenkey 1 Jun 2020 10:01:22 10,516 posts
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    The film is fantastic. I'm sure its even better if you've read the books because the characters are so well translated from the source.
  • dmj 1 Jun 2020 10:22:34 1,022 posts
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    ďJack, you have debauched my sloth!Ē

    H.M.S. Surprise would be my pick for a starting point. Master & Commander is very much a standalone, I think, and I donít love Post Captain (is it the weakest of the series?) but parts of it are fantastic.
  • Rodney 1 Jun 2020 12:33:17 4,465 posts
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    I think Master and Commander was written as a stand alone story, and after its success O'Brian had to almost reboot the story to make it into a series.

    HMS Surprise is probably more readable, and a good place to start, but Id recommend reading a few chapters of Master and Commander or Post Captain first and if you enjoy them stick with them.

    It's not essential to read as a series as the books stand on their own for the most parts, but it's still better to read as a series, I think.
  • Armoured_Bear 1 Jun 2020 12:48:22 28,862 posts
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    I read and loved the first 4, all were a capital read, but then my interest tailed off, I should try again.
  • dmj 1 Jun 2020 14:44:18 1,022 posts
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    Iíd definitely recommend reading the first two but not, um, first necessarily. I mean, itíd be fine if you did but others work better as a starting point, I think.

    Desolation Island was the first I read, and thatíd work really well (I still rank it first or second overall in the series).
  • Rodney 1 Jun 2020 21:59:54 4,465 posts
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    Hmm, not sure. you'd miss the sloth.
  • dominalien 2 Jun 2020 06:46:59 9,652 posts
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    And so the EG forum strikes again. On Sunday I had no idea who Patrick OíBrian was, now I have four of his books. Not the first one, though, Iíve started on Post Captain. Itís not very nautical so far, but I am enjoying it. Just like Captain Aubrey likes the company of women who, I now know, are very different to men.

    Excellent stuff.
  • Rodney 2 Jun 2020 07:42:30 4,465 posts
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    Stick with Post Captain it gets more nautical towards the end then pretty much stays that way through the other books.
  • dominalien 2 Jun 2020 14:53:59 9,652 posts
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    I have now read to the point where itís not Gosford Park any more. I like it even more than I did before.

    Edited by dominalien at 14:54:52 02-06-2020
  • Rodney 2 Jun 2020 21:29:10 4,465 posts
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    Give joy to you, sir

    Edited by Rodney at 21:49:11 02-06-2020
  • coastal 3 Jun 2020 11:14:47 5,430 posts
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    There's a number of books on Thomas Cochrane, the inspiration for Aubrey, but this is a pretty good one: Cochrane: The Life and Exploits of a Fighting Captain
  • Rodney 3 Jun 2020 21:56:50 4,465 posts
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    The Cochrane books good, and I'd also recommend "Britain's greatest Frigate Captain" about Edward Pellow.

    An admiral with a similarly interesting story as Cochrane's.

    I think I liked it particularly because he grew up poor in Cornwall (where I grew up), and crewed his ships with Cornish miners who spoke the Cornish language and dialect so no one else could understand them
  • Blancrabello 4 Jun 2020 14:28:44 32 posts
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    Been lurking for some time but when I saw this thread I had to comment. An excellent book series, with fantastic writing. He doesn't pull his punches explaining how the corridors of power worked at the time. Desolation Island is also my favourite. And I can also recommend the audio book series read by Patrick Tull. You can often find them all online. He really does bring the books to life. I'm currently listening to the wine dark sea. In my second trip through them all. Get involved!
  • brokenkey 4 Jun 2020 18:30:26 10,516 posts
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    There are a couple of BBC radio plays which are really good. Links earlier in the thread, if they don't work I might have a local copy I can share.
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