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Good. The dialogoue in ep 1-3 is so fucking bad it makes me angry. The "Noooooooooo" scene, the bad romance, the slow scenes not really flowing into action but rather going start-stop with the pacing, the overpowering of the jedi is like fan-fic... Sooooo awful. I remember watching the bootleg of ep1 after all of the original movies and no one even spoke when it was over. Then someone said tentatively "The rolling droids were pretty cool at least, right?". Soul-crushing.... |
A psychopath reviews Star Wars: Phantom Menace
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SirScratchalot 7,921 posts
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PearOfAnguish 7,573 posts
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Registered 17 years agoThe shield generator and droid cleaning bit is great. Just makes no fucking sense. -
warlockuk 19,519 posts
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Registered 17 years agoHaha @ the basement scene 
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shamblemonkee 17,967 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI think they should have skipped anakins childhood entirely or made it a five minute prologue, and then spent the three films of the prequels showing anakin's slip to the darkside in intimate twisting moral gutwrenching detail... -
I was telling Ms ED209 about this last night and she wants to see it too but I can't be bothered to hunch over YouTube again. Is there by any chance a version that's been bolted together in decent resolution that I could download and stream through the Xbox? -
shamblemonkee wrote:
The entire first movie should have opened with us meeting Anakin, introduced Kenobi 20 minutes later, done away with Qui Gon Jin, been a lot shorter, completely re-written, directed by someone else...
I think they should have skipped anakins childhood entirely or made it a five minute prologue, and then spent the three films of the prequels showing anakin's slip to the darkside in intimate twisting moral gutwrenching detail... -
shamblemonkee 17,967 posts
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Registered 17 years agoi can't disagree with any of that .gif)
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Salaman 24,162 posts
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Registered 17 years agoThis was linked in the TT nuggets thread last night. I innocently clicked the first one at about midnight and then noticed it was 10 minutes and part of 7. I did think "fuck, too late to watch it all" but it was too excellent to stop, so I was there until 1:10am. great stuff.
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Yeah so have I. So what? I still absolutely love the old Star Wars films (ROTJ not so much, the Ewoks do sort of pull it down) and yeah, a lot of that is to do with being brought up on scratchy advert-filled VHS recordings off the telly before the trilogy entered our house as an expensive official box-set and my mum having a bit of a thing for Darth Vader (yeah, I know). It's impossible for me to look at the originals that objectively any more but I genuinely think they are cracking good films.
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Skorms-Boss 343 posts
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Registered 12 years agoMrED209 wrote:
but I genuinely think they are cracking good films.
is it too geeky to admit I have a star wars tattoo?
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hiddenranbir wrote:
I wouldn't say so, never saw the originals as a child. The saturday matineé thing is what makes 'em great. Characters, story, visuals and production design also make them awesome.
but yeah, I don't see anything spectacular with the old ones either. Probably one of those had to be there experiencing for first time sort of thing as a CHILD.
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Pac-man-ate-my-wife 7,087 posts
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Registered 18 years agoOf course there are 'better' films that Star Wars but you have to look at the them in context. For people of a certain age they were the very definition of breath-taking escapism. They conjured up a cracking alternative reality full of great characters, strange worlds and the coolest weapon ever committed to film.
The originals may have some ropey acting, some clunky scripting and some dodgy special effects but they transcend this to tell a gripping yet simple story of good vs. evil.
What this critique is so good at pointing out is that the new ones are entirely souless, empty-headed and just down-right incoherent messes. -
Demikaze 6,692 posts
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Registered 12 years agoBrilliant stuff. Part 6 completely nails how idiotic the lightsaber duel at the end was. -
hiddenranbir wrote:
It's not shocking. It's fine to not like Star Wars or that it didn't form a considerable part of your escapism as a child. It's a shame, but understandable.
Pac-man ate my wife wrote:
Of course there are 'better' films that Star Wars but you have to look at the them in context. For people of a certain age they were the very definition of breath-taking escapism.
Exactly, this didn't happen with me for SW, that's all. Can't be that shocking.
As for what Lucas did with the originals, well exactly. Him not directing the second and third probably saved them but what he did do was write the basic story and as far as I know the script for the first one - when did Kasdan get involved with the scripts, anyone know?
I think the biggest problem was not what he did with the first ones, but what he'd become by the time he did the new ones. By then he was so rich and powerful that there was nobody in a position to say "That's not gonna work, dude, try this instead?" - for example, Harrison Ford told him "You can type this shit, George, but you sure as hell can't say it." or words to that effect. Harrison also came up with the "I love you/I know" exchange which was a high point for Han Solo's character. Somehow I doubt anybody had any such exchanges with George when he started on the new ones.
Come the new trilogy, George packed them full of effects and wrote an absolutely dreadful series of scripts and nobody edited him. -
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Metalfish 9,191 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI wonder if Lucas would ever allow anyone to do a kotor film. With some serious thought there's a couple of cracking scripts in those game(s). -
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mrpon 37,366 posts
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Registered 15 years agoSkorms-Boss wrote:
As long as it's the Leia boobs one, that's fine.
MrED209 wrote:
but I genuinely think they are cracking good films.
is it too geeky to admit I have a star wars tattoo?
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Vice's point about Yoda-Dooku etc just highlights how shite it all was. It could have been good.
But it wasn't. Ever.*
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Dirtbox wrote:
If only a handful of people commented on it in passing, it didn't happen.
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Stickman 29,986 posts
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Registered 17 years agoIt's very hard to make an argument for people only liking the originals due to nostalgia. They were massively popular when released. They've not been suddenly retconned into good films. You may not like them, fine, but they're pretty much perfect 'Ripping Yarns For Boys' films. The modern versions are just fucking toss. The characters are all either boring or actually unlikable, the dialogue is interminably dull and broken and the story flits around all over the shop. -
hiddenranbir wrote:
I've come around to the originals, was always slightly underwhelmed with the originals when I was a kid, but they have genuine charms that I've come to appreciate.
Vice.Destroyer wrote:
I thought that episodes 4-6 were actually much, much worse than episodes 1-3. I just never got the original trilogy. Complete and utter shit.
/don't hurt me. Please.
Frankly the whole SW thing is questionable. The first few films just had the benefit of having good character performances and SOME basic sense of story.
but yeah, I don't see anything spectacular with the old ones either. Probably one of those had to be there experiencing for first time sort of thing as a CHILD.
But my life time has seen much better films so whatever.
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