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  • Whatsfor 5 Jan 2010 19:25:05 2,187 posts
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    Aranel, please can you put a spoiler over that filth. Nobody likes to see the truth.


    /Bury's head in sand.
  • Jeepers 5 Jan 2010 19:31:33 16,616 posts
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    Aranel wrote:
    they didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

    Story might have been more accurate had the tenth man employed an accountancy company who ensured that he paid a fraction of the £59 he owed before fucking off to the Isle of Man.

    /see Bono, Lewis Hamilton, Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Michael Caine...
  • dnbuk 5 Jan 2010 19:32:56 5,011 posts
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    Alot PP.
  • JuanKerr 5 Jan 2010 19:34:38 37,710 posts
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    Jeepers wrote:
    Aranel wrote:
    they didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

    Story might have been more accurate had the tenth man employed an accountancy company who ensured that he paid a fraction of the £59 he owed before fucking off to the Isle of Man.

    /see Bono, Lewis Hamilton, Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Michael Caine...

    Quite. Perhaps a fairer system would stop them fucking off in the first place ...
  • lost_soul 5 Jan 2010 19:42:14 9,372 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    GiarcYekrub wrote:
    Ahhh I found figures for employment at 28.93 million people but still thats

    £829.7 billion / 28.93 million people = £28,679.57 per person ummm thats alot....

    Also you dont measure debt per capita that is a political shitty game. You measure it against your GDP/ GNP.

    Which according to wiki is estimated at $2.674 trillion in nominal terms (not adjusted for inflation)

    Now what is $829.7 billion as a percentage of $2.674 trillion?

    829,700,000,000/2,674,000,000,000= 0.31028 or 31% of GDP.

    BIG NUMBERS




    Unless you're Sony, $ != £.
  • Clive_Dunn 5 Jan 2010 20:06:31 4,862 posts
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    JuanKerr wrote:
    Jeepers wrote:
    Aranel wrote:
    they didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

    Story might have been more accurate had the tenth man employed an accountancy company who ensured that he paid a fraction of the £59 he owed before fucking off to the Isle of Man.

    /see Bono, Lewis Hamilton, Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Michael Caine...

    Quite. Perhaps a fairer system would stop them fucking off in the first place ...

    Hah, yeah of course it would. It's not like they are all greedy cunts who don't want to pay a penny of tax if they can avoid it.
  • Deleted user 5 January 2010 20:09:05
    Do those figures include the off-balance stuff - PFI?
  • Khanivor 5 Jan 2010 20:40:17 44,800 posts
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    Aranel wrote:
    they didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

    You don't happen to work as a corporate accountant, do ya? Because that's a cute little parable but it's based on BS figures.

    Let's have the companion to the original bar tab, where the 100 bill is 10 times the wage of the poorest four and 1,000th the wage, (not counting dividends and interest from investments and assets) of the richest person.
  • morriss 5 Jan 2010 20:48:22 71,293 posts
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    Denmark has no national debt. Not bad.
  • Deleted user 5 January 2010 20:49:37
    morriss wrote:
    Denmark has no national debt. Not bad.

    they do own Greenland, and everybody knows what goes on there...
  • morriss 5 Jan 2010 20:50:21 71,293 posts
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    :)
  • morriss 5 Jan 2010 20:55:05 71,293 posts
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    Aranel wrote:


    they didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

    Bollocks, frankly, but nice story.

    We live in a community where the strong help the weak and the rich help the poor while the poor clean up after the rich and do the jobs that are needed to keep the underbelly of society in tact. Everyone plays an important role, and every should chip in exponentially.

    You can't compare paying for a decent public health system, public transport etc. to choosing to go out for a few beers: incomparible.
  • WoodenSpoon 5 Jan 2010 20:57:50 12,360 posts
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    All the story says is that if you don't make your tax system attractive to the rich then you'll have no rich people to tax and be worse off - it doesn't matter whether that's fair or not, it's just true.
  • JuanKerr 5 Jan 2010 21:01:33 37,710 posts
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    The story also says that poor people are useless freeloaders.
  • Aranel 5 Jan 2010 21:07:15 669 posts
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    Khanivor wrote:You don't happen to work as a corporate accountant, do ya? Because that's a cute little parable but it's based on BS figures.

    I personally didn't make the story up at all - it's been doing the rounds for a while and I just copied and pasted ;)

    I'm not saying that the figures behind it are right but the essence, in my view, is - pure politics of envy.
  • Khanivor 5 Jan 2010 21:21:07 44,800 posts
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    Aye, I've seen that before, in one form or another. At first I thought it was going to be the old '2p extra change' thing, which it essentially is :)

    And I'm not sure it's simple politics of envy when the gap between the highest and lowest earners has grown in the speed and fashion that it has. More like the politics of corruption.
  • Fat_Pigeon 6 Jan 2010 16:53:21 9,922 posts
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    Jeepers wrote:
    Aranel wrote:
    they didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

    Story might have been more accurate had the tenth man employed an accountancy company who ensured that he paid a fraction of the £59 he owed before fucking off to the Isle of Man.

    /see Bono, Lewis Hamilton, Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Michael Caine...

    these people might make the 7th-8th man on the scale of things!
  • challenge_hanukkah 23 Nov 2016 15:00:42 14,394 posts
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    It's the immigrants. Especially the brown ones.
  • Dizzy 23 Nov 2016 15:14:58 3,716 posts
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    Must be that 4800000 zillion we give to the EU every second?
  • Load_2.0 23 Nov 2016 15:22:00 33,582 posts
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    Maybe you will die in a fiery crash.

    Pothole noodle.
  • Trowel 23 Nov 2016 15:38:40 24,512 posts
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    £1 trillion is the cost to society of people who bump old discussions which have long been superseded by more appropriate threads.
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