Bought a Nikon D70 today \o/ Page 2

  • jaa 11 Jan 2005 21:49:23 962 posts
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    reflux wrote:
    Smaller sensor and higher resolution than the others (D70, 300D and *istDS) => probably more noise. Also, new lens mount standard I think => few lenses and no second hand market for buying them. I'd think twice (I did and that's why I didn't get one).

    Spot on. And it has a slow (especially in low light) AF and not very good viewfinder(according to French magazine Chasseur d'Images). Plus, it's ugly... :)

    It features the interesting anti-dust system, though...
  • jaa 11 Jan 2005 22:09:49 962 posts
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    Afaik, the D70 has no anti-dust system... Both Olympus have a "supersonic wave filter" that vibrates each time the camera is turned on or when lenses are changed. Link to dpreview E300 review (bit about this maybe 80% down the page).
  • urban 11 Jan 2005 22:15:04 13,148 posts
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    i've always simply disliked nikon since their ....urrr f5's probably heh its been that long since i had any interest in their stuff...

    they simply got the digital thing all wrong and all their electronics are poofy
  • jaa 11 Jan 2005 22:19:14 962 posts
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    Eh, software doesn't count... The dust is still there!


    Edit: Uh-oh. The Canon fanboys have arrived. And they're as bad as any PS2/Xbox/GG fanboys, I'm telling you...

    Edited by jaa at 22:21:40 11-01-2005
  • UncleLou Moderator 11 Jan 2005 22:20:56 40,723 posts
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    Ah, the dust problem is overrated. I give it a 5 out of 10.
  • jaa 11 Jan 2005 22:26:02 962 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    Ah, the dust problem is overrated. I give it a 5 out of 10.

    Clearly, you haven't seen the inside of any of my 3 Pentaxes, all bought in the 90's. Through the viewfinder of my MZ5, I can see tiny bugs walking around...
  • reflux 11 Jan 2005 22:27:28 1,804 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    Ah, the dust problem is overrated. I give it a 5 out of 10.
    Yeps, never had that problem. Oh. Erh, wait. I only have the kit lens :I
  • UncleLou Moderator 11 Jan 2005 22:31:39 40,723 posts
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    jaa wrote:
    UncleLou wrote:
    Ah, the dust problem is overrated. I give it a 5 out of 10.

    Clearly, you haven't seen the inside of any of my 3 Pentaxes, all bought in the 90's. Through the viewfinder of my MZ5, I can see tiny bugs walking around...

    Slob! :-)
  • jaa 11 Jan 2005 22:55:22 962 posts
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    otto wrote:
    Hahaha, for God's sake man, take it in and get it cleaned! :D

    What?! And kill a happy family of harmless little bugs?!... They're the only pets I have, besides wife...

    UncleLou: at least I'm not a lawyer... :p
  • Deleted user 11 January 2005 23:21:02
    jaa wrote:The Canon fanboys have arrived. And they're as bad as any PS2/Xbox/GG fanboys, I'm telling you...
    Damn right. Just wait until the Fujifilm/Kodak fanboys come around...

    @urban: thanks for the insightful feedback, I'll go and sell all my Nikon equipment now cause it's "poofy". And the F5 is only considered the best film SLR ever by thousands of professionals around the world, but I'll listen to you!
  • UncleLou Moderator 11 Jan 2005 23:25:25 40,723 posts
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    jaa wrote:

    UncleLou: at least I'm not a lawyer... :p

    (T)ouch(é)! :D
  • pistol 12 Jul 2006 15:10:10 13,018 posts
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    cyk wrote:
    UncleLou wrote:
    Great, great fun though, and, don't be surprised, I have to thank the two of you, cyk and valli - you and your threads here and the online galleries have certainly played a big part in my reawakened interest in photography!

    Edited by UncleLou at 22:16:04 22-08-2004

    Glad to help :) RAW mode is very very cool, but does take up 4 times the space of a JPEG, but its sooo worth it.

    Agree 100%. I'm shooting more and more in Raw coz I love the ability to choose different WB/settings in Photoshop in post processing. If you scew up you can nearly always fix the pic if you shoot in RAW. I don't mind the space so much as I've got a couple of 1GB cards but I have noticed you can't shoot as fast in RAW, compared to Jpeg. It's hardly noticeable most of the time though.
  • bivith 12 Jul 2006 16:40:19 2,469 posts
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    I don't get this. You can fix WB just as easily with a Jpeg.
  • deem 12 Jul 2006 16:41:36 31,667 posts
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  • pistol 12 Jul 2006 16:49:24 13,018 posts
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    deem wrote:
    bivith wrote:
    I don't get this. You can fix WB just as easily with a Jpeg.

    Except a Jpeg treats an image for you, so it's not as easy to correct.

    iirc

    Correct.

    You have far more options in post processing when shooting in RAW. You can virtually start all over again when editing.

    Explained

    Edited by pistol at 16:50:18 12-07-2006
  • bivith 13 Jul 2006 12:48:52 2,469 posts
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    I've never had a jpeg I couldn't white balance correct in a matter of seconds, and I don't have time to be pissing around with raw files. I agree with this pro on the subject.

    edit: this is just my opinion, i'm sure raw editing is worth it for those who do it

    Edited by bivith at 12:49:15 13-07-2006
  • deem 13 Jul 2006 12:53:16 31,667 posts
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  • UncleLou Moderator 13 Jul 2006 12:55:18 40,723 posts
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    bivith wrote:
    I've never had a jpeg I couldn't white balance correct in a matter of seconds, and I don't have time to be pissing around with raw files. I agree with this pro on the subject.

    edit: this is just my opinion, i'm sure raw editing is worth it for those who do it

    Edited by bivith at 12:49:15 13-07-2006

    Ken Rockwell is quite entertaining, but not exactly the most reliable source... :)

    I am with you though, I am too lazy to shoot in RAW most of the time.

    Edited by UncleLou at 12:54:58 13-07-2006
  • HoraceGoesSquiffy 13 Jul 2006 13:00:29 1,563 posts
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    I found that if you want to convert to b/w later and you're shooting colour, RAW is better as when you convert a JPG to greyscale you get more noticeable spotting artifacts in large gradient areas like sky. If you convert to greyscale while still working with a RAW, you avoid this problem.

    This is from my personal experience and I may well be talking bollocks, but I found it to be useful.

    Most colour work I find the JPG compression fine in my 350D, but I'm no pro.

    (btw I know that digital greyscale is no match for true b/w film, but you pays yer money etc)
  • deem 13 Jul 2006 13:06:37 31,667 posts
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  • pistol 13 Jul 2006 14:39:11 13,018 posts
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    bivith wrote:
    I've never had a jpeg I couldn't white balance correct in a matter of seconds, and I don't have time to be pissing around with raw files. I agree with this pro on the subject.

    edit: this is just my opinion, i'm sure raw editing is worth it for those who do it

    Edited by bivith at 12:49:15 13-07-2006

    I'm kind of somewhere in the middle. If I'm shooting loads of pics I'll usually just shoot in JPeg Fine. If it's just a few I'll go with RAW. I'm just enjoying playing around with Photoshop at the moment.
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    Thanks valli!

    I bought an SB-600 speedlight yesterday, delighted with it so far. What a difference. :)
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    Hyoushi wrote:
    My GF is contemplating buying a Digi SLR too, she's aiming for a D70 or the somewhat pricier Konica-Minolta Dynax D7. She already has an analogue Minolta...
    I was going to go for the D7 for the same reason, until I realised that the price difference was such that I could afford to replace all my Minolta lenses with Nikon ones and still have money left over.
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    All good points.
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    No, SB-600, it's about half the price for almost all the same features.
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    valli wrote:
    What's the shortest sync time on it otto?
    From the manual: "High-speed flash synchronisation is possible exceeding your camera's sync shutter speed up to your camera's highest shutter speed."
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    How does it differ from the D70's anti-dust system?
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    D70 indeed does have anti-dust, but it's software, and you need the option Nikon Capture for it. If memory serves.
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    LOL! /regrets D70 purchase
  • otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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    jaa wrote:
    Clearly, you haven't seen the inside of any of my 3 Pentaxes, all bought in the 90's. Through the viewfinder of my MZ5, I can see tiny bugs walking around...
    Hahaha, for God's sake man, take it in and get it cleaned! :D
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