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  • gamecat 17 May 2019 16:29:33 866 posts
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    Very similar to the deals around for a 3, not sure why you would want a 3a instead, maybe you really want a headphone jack?
  • Gruff 17 May 2019 16:52:01 3,465 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    24 I think, and only with 4GB of data - but I don't reach that now anyway

    Edit: with 50 upfront
    Got mine for 26 month for 24 months on EE, cheeky feckers wanted 100 upfront, I Noped, used the dontchaknowImalongTermCustomer argument , they waived the up front fee :)
  • Dougs 17 May 2019 20:03:11 90,274 posts
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    gamecat wrote:
    Very similar to the deals around for a 3, not sure why you would want a 3a instead, maybe you really want a headphone jack?
    At face value, a 3 is a fiver a month + more expensive. This is all without the haggling etc which I will do, obviously. I do kind of prefer a headphone jack, although not as vital as once was.
  • fontgeeksogood 17 May 2019 20:13:53 6,779 posts
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    Time will maybe kick my ass for this one but having gone for a Chinese phone I can't see reasons to go for 'premium' now. My Honor Play feels as well put together as the Pixel it replaced, and has the dual SIM plus all the horsepower I'll need. What am I missing? As previously disclosed, I find the idea of the Chinese government spying on me sexually exciting
  • THFourteen 17 May 2019 20:15:30 52,844 posts
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    @fontgeeksogood

    Nothing IMO. For me the only thing that would keep me premium if i was on Android would be the quality of the camera which seems to be lagging in the Chinese phone market, phone camera is my primary camera especially for taking pics of the family.
  • fontgeeksogood 17 May 2019 20:17:25 6,779 posts
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    Ah, I guess. To be honest, coming from the Pixel which was all about the camera, I haven't noticed a big difference but I'm not a camera nerd. Plus the Pixel was a lot older
  • Dougs 17 May 2019 20:17:43 90,274 posts
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    Decent camera is definitely up there as a must. Had a budget moto g a few years ago and the camera was arse.
  • THFourteen 17 May 2019 20:17:47 52,844 posts
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    https://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomi-mi-9-review

    Altho maybe not anymore?
  • fontgeeksogood 17 May 2019 20:21:11 6,779 posts
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    Ads? In the OS? That sounds shit. The thing with Hauwei / Honor is the crapware it ships with but I have an iPhone for work (not anymore thanks dual SIM) so I'm used to having a tonne of undeleteable crap to throw into an icon group on the last page and never touch
  • Tonka 19 May 2019 07:11:24 29,773 posts
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    My current phone is deteriorating rapidly. Screen keeps dying. So I set up my back up shit phone to handle my bank and commuter card on.

    Will order a phone soon ish, but now I'm getting hold feet. No matter which one I buy I'm not really getting anything new. It shoots me that I'll have to pay for something that is basically what I have today but with some software tweaks.

    Maybe if I pay more, my next phone will last more than two years.
  • Gruff 19 May 2019 11:55:19 3,465 posts
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    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    Ah, I guess. To be honest, coming from the Pixel which was all about the camera, I haven't noticed a big difference but I'm not a camera nerd. Plus the Pixel was a lot older
    I have found the jump from the original Pixel to the 3A surprisingly large, mainly due to the better display TBH and I dunno, it all seems infinitely more baked in with regards to OS. I guess 4 years in the phone market is like 50 Dog years
  • Tonka 4 Jun 2019 13:56:30 29,773 posts
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    Got my new Moto one vision. So far I'm impressed. Fingerprint sensor on the back will take some time to get used to.
  • Tonka 6 Jun 2019 08:40:18 29,773 posts
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    I'm really enjoying my new phone. Tried some of the more advanced Jake's like asphalt and the bullet hell one. Runs super smooth.

    Will get back on battery time. Right now I'm killing it by constantly fiddling with the phone. No need for charger in the office though.
  • BinaryBob101 6 Jun 2019 15:54:17 26,989 posts
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    Got a D-Brand skin for my Pixel. Wow, what a fantastic product. Inexpensive too. Highly recommended since I don't think many cases really properly protect your phone at all.
  • freddymercurystwin 7 Jun 2019 10:13:34 1,735 posts
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    Question for those in the know, whilst in the office at work, I can connect my work phone (which is connected to the office wifi) to my own phone via Bluetooth to use the work wifi. Can this ever be detected by the IT staff?
  • THFourteen 7 Jun 2019 10:18:48 52,844 posts
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    Stop looking at porn at work
  • Tonka 7 Jun 2019 10:20:59 29,773 posts
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    Will they be able to detect that your work phone was connected to the internet and downloaded stuff from hotsmutt.com?
    Yes.

    Will they be able to detect that your private phone was coencted to it via Bluetooth?
    Maybe. If they poke around on your work phone (their property I guess)

    Will it matter if they can't detect that your private phone was doing the downloading?
    You tell me.
  • nickthegun 7 Jun 2019 10:47:05 78,566 posts
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    Are you sure you're actually connected to the work wifi? Most phones only allow you to share cellular data by default. On an iPhone it will show it's on the WiFi but will only share cell data to the other phone.

    But.. if, for some reason, your work has given you a rooted android phone, yes, they can tell. All the packets you send will originate from your phone even if they are routed through another device.

    Whether or not they give a fuck or even look for that, I can't tell you, but if you worked where I worked and you were routing traffic through a corporate device to a BYOD, we would have you for trying to exploit a possible data exfiltration route.

    Effectively, you are on the 'network' with a non-authorised device.

    All of this depends on network segregation, obviously. We have a separate network for wifi, so nothing touches the corp network.

    So, in your example, we wouldn't find you because we wouldn't give a crap about you being on a network with no access to resources.

    Tl:Dr: yes, packet inspection will reveal the originating devices, no we don't know if your IT dept give a shit

    Edited by nickthegun at 10:56:34 07-06-2019
  • Dougs 7 Jun 2019 11:18:34 90,274 posts
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    If you just connected to the wifi from your own device, how would they know it's you? Unless they've got the MAC address/IMEI, does it matter?
  • nickthegun 7 Jun 2019 11:26:26 78,566 posts
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    Packet inspection and authentication.

    The packet would record the device as BARRYS PIXEL3 or whatever, which can be anonymised obviously but to connect to the WiFi you *should* have to authenticate your device with credentials issued to you.
  • Dougs 7 Jun 2019 11:31:20 90,274 posts
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    Should being the operative word....there's one wifi network at my place which has a generic password for everyone.
  • nickthegun 7 Jun 2019 11:35:11 78,566 posts
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    That's genuinely disgraceful.
  • Dougs 7 Jun 2019 11:37:00 90,274 posts
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    Are you surprised?! Tbf, it barely works any more and the other one does have proper authentication.
  • nickthegun 7 Jun 2019 11:39:24 78,566 posts
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    But, like I say, if you're on a 'this is literally just internet' WiFi connection, it's unlikely anyone cares.

    If you use this network for your laptop when you can't find a desk and access network resources, they will (should) care.

    But you really should have unique auth at your work, ffs. Anyone could connect to it and slurp some clowns data.
  • freddymercurystwin 7 Jun 2019 12:37:29 1,735 posts
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    @nickthegun Thanks, I don't think they would specifically go looking for people doing this, it's a smallish company (30 employees) with one IT chap, I don't think they give a crap, we all have unlimited access to the internet (provided you don't look at anything dodgy), the wifi is for those of us with work phones, laptops etc.

    I am definitely able to latch onto the work wifi via my workphone, the wifi on my own phone is turned off as is mobile data.

    I don't expect to use it regularity, it's not a wonderful connection, I guess as it has to go via a phone/bluetooth but handy on occasion.
  • Dougs 7 Jun 2019 15:57:07 90,274 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    gamecat wrote:
    Very similar to the deals around for a 3, not sure why you would want a 3a instead, maybe you really want a headphone jack?
    At face value, a 3 is a fiver a month + more expensive. This is all without the haggling etc which I will do, obviously. I do kind of prefer a headphone jack, although not as vital as once was.
    Cheapest I can get the Pixel 3 for is 30 with 4GB. Can get the 3a for 25 and 10GB....
  • nickthegun 7 Jun 2019 17:20:51 78,566 posts
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    377 if you can be arsed with the O2 refresh thing

    https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/pixel-3-377-or-pixel-3-xl-472-o2-refresh-deal-3242755
  • Dougs 8 Jun 2019 11:37:24 90,274 posts
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    That sounds like a massive pain in the arse
  • Tomo 8 Jun 2019 20:39:06 16,711 posts
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    Anyone downloaded the June Android 9 update? Got it this morning for my Pixel 2 and seems to have slowed my phone down... Wondering if it's just me.
  • BinaryBob101 9 Jun 2019 00:07:10 26,989 posts
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    Turn off Digital Wellbeing if it's been switched back on after the update maybe?
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