Following Shenmue 3 Page 43

  • Baihu1983 11 Jun 2019 22:01:46 11,625 posts
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    Training and battle gameplay


    https://youtu.be/Jbv6YzWjeQQ
  • Baihu1983 14 Jun 2019 18:30:59 11,625 posts
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    Some really negative feedback from the E3 demo going around
  • Syrette 14 Jun 2019 23:05:16 50,306 posts
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    Not sure what people expected given its tiny budget.
  • Zomoniac 14 Jun 2019 23:19:52 10,035 posts
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    Iíve literally only seen positive feedback. Where yíall looking?
  • waggy79 14 Jun 2019 23:26:23 2,002 posts
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    Zomoniac wrote:
    Iíve literally only seen positive feedback. Where yíall looking?
    Same here. Everyone seems eager to get their hands on it.

    Received an e-mail from Ys/Epic/Deepsilver saying they're busy demoing the game at E3 but will address the backers concerns when they return.
    Should be interesting to see what option they will take to calm the storm.
  • ChiefGB 14 Jun 2019 23:50:33 11,338 posts
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    A handjob from yu suzuki.
    Please understand............
  • vyseofhr 15 Jun 2019 07:20:27 1,219 posts
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    It looks like everything I want it to be.
  • TheHammerite 15 Jun 2019 07:30:40 3,456 posts
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    I've seen an impressions article that was very critical. It was based in a 15 minute E3 session. It sounded like it's very much Shenmue and hasn't really moved with the times, which a lot of people will like. And very rough around the edges, with various characters sharing the same face etc. It didn't put me off.
  • Syrette 15 Jun 2019 09:56:05 50,306 posts
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    Zomoniac wrote:
    Iíve literally only seen positive feedback. Where yíall looking?
    Harder than you by the looks of it.

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  • SnackPlissken 15 Jun 2019 10:33:21 1,141 posts
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    I donít think it needed to move with the times. Itís a very unique gaming experience which I havenít found in another open world adventure. Itís very much you need to explore and figure out yourself. Not a hereís a million icons on your map and if you feel like doing a side quest etc.
    I donít know what you guys want out of an open world game. Witcher 3 where you have to travel by horse for an hour to trigger the next event?
  • Syrette 15 Jun 2019 11:16:25 50,306 posts
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    SnackPlissken wrote:
    I donít know what you guys want out of an open world game. Witcher 3 where you have to travel by horse for an hour to trigger the next event?
    Who are you aiming this at?

    Doesn't even make sense, since The Witcher 3 had fast travel.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 15 Jun 2019 11:20:40 20,717 posts
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    I didn't know it had a horse stance mini game. Feel kind of silly not backing it now.
  • Joyless_Man 15 Jun 2019 11:34:29 276 posts
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    I fully expect it to be very old fashioned, janky, weird and to review badly as a result.

    And I'm fine with that.
  • neems 15 Jun 2019 11:41:28 4,675 posts
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    Syrette wrote:
    SnackPlissken wrote:
    I donít know what you guys want out of an open world game. Witcher 3 where you have to travel by horse for an hour to trigger the next event?
    Who are you aiming this at?

    Doesn't even make sense, since The Witcher 3 had fast travel.
    Also you couldn't walk 10 feet in Witcher 3 without finding something, the map is covered in question marks.
  • Cappy 15 Jun 2019 12:04:14 14,109 posts
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    Until I can be certain that I will get an actual resolution to the story of Shenmue and not just another cliffhanger for yet another game that never comes, I'm done with Shenmue.
  • Nazo 15 Jun 2019 12:16:43 1,039 posts
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    Suzuki has said Shenmue 3 gets us to about 40% of the story so you'll be waiting a while.
  • ChiefGB 15 Jun 2019 13:01:34 11,338 posts
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    And when heís done with snorting coke off hookers breasts with all the Kickstarter and epic money he may get around to thinking about number 4
  • richarddavies 15 Jun 2019 13:04:37 6,812 posts
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    Well its took nearly 4 years for 3 to come out since it was announced so all being well were probably looking at about 2024 before 4 is released and we'll be about halfway through the story.

    So yay!..... :-/
  • Dolly 15 Jun 2019 15:23:52 3,516 posts
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    People complaining that the new shenmue game is too shenmuey, is the best news shenmue fans could possibly hear.
  • Baihu1983 15 Jun 2019 16:52:37 11,625 posts
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    The complaints I've seen aren't it's too Shenmuey but rather it feels like something that would have released 18 years ago.

    Alex Navarro from Giant Bomb said one NPC looked like she was having a stroke due to how bad her face was animated and the lack of movement in her arms
  • Joyless_Man 15 Jun 2019 17:13:09 276 posts
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    Sounds great.
  • nickthegun 15 Jun 2019 17:16:06 78,544 posts
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    And very Shenmuey
  • Baihu1983 16 Jun 2019 19:23:23 11,625 posts
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    https://youtu.be/BJaS95iNDVU

    Good video and makes me wonder if Yu had any say in the epic deal
  • dadrester 2 Jul 2019 12:18:40 2,555 posts
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    Copy pasta from a new email, for those that aren't backers...

    Hello Everyone,

    Regarding the recently announced Epic Games Store exclusive, all of us here at YSNET, Deep Silver and Epic are taking the matter with utmost concern and would like to clarify the circumstances leading to the decision and offer backers options for moving forward.

    As noted in the updates and survey at launch, we had originally planned for PC distribution through Steam. Taking publishing and sales considerations into account, YSNET and Deep Silver agreed to our partnership with Epic Games Store on PC version distribution. As a publishing partner, Deep Silver has greatly contributed not only to sales and marketing, but to scaling up the game so there is more Shenmue III to begin with. Also, Epic Games has been with us from the start of the project when we adopted Unreal Engine 4 for development, and have given us their support throughout the development process.

    In response to backers who have requested Steam keys for their rewards, we discussed offering the keys on the day of release. However, coordination with the sales policies of the involved companies was untenable, and as a result we are not able to make a day one distribution option for Steam keys available.

    That we are not able to offer Steam keys for Kickstarter rewards at the time of the gameís release is a great disappointed and inconvenience for those backers who were expecting to receive them. We deeply apologize for the unrest caused by the announcement.

    Response Policy
    The team would like to offer the following:

    Version Availability
    a. PC Physical: Package (Disc) + EGS Key
    b. PC Digital: EGS Key
    c. PS4 Physical: Package (Disc)
    d. PS4 Digital: PSN Voucher Code
    *If selecting either the PC Physical or PC Digital version, an option to also receive a Steam key one year later will be available. Backers must manually select this option in the survey to receive the Steam key.
    **If you had previously selected PC and want to change to PS4 or vice versa, you may do so.

    Survey Implementation
    We are currently working on the necessary changes to the backer survey system. We ask for your patience as there will be a short wait while the preparations are made. Once the survey changes have been implemented, there will be an announcement here in the updates with details and notice of the survey response period. (Changes to your shipping address may still be made through the backer survey up until shipping begins.)

    Concerning Refunds
    Along with Deep Silver and Epic Games, we have agreed that should the above proposal not be acceptable to backers, refund requests will be honored.
    Details concerning the refund request process will be announced in a following update. We ask for your patience until that time.
    *In the case rewards within your reward tier, such as in-game content, have already been created and implemented, a full refund may not be possible.

    PS4 Region Selection
    PS4 regions are automatically set based on the country information answered the through your backer survey. However, there will be an option through the backer survey that will allow you to change your PS4 region during the Survey Response Period. If you would like to change your PS4 region, you will be able to select from four regions: US, EU, Japan and Asia. An announcement will be made when the option is added to the survey.
    SIEE: Europe / Middle East / Africa / Oceania
    SIEA: North America / Middle America / South America
    SIE Japan: Japan
    SIE Asia: Asia (excl. Mainland China and Japan)

    PC Physical version
    The PC Physical version will be delivered on disk. However, the disk will contain the Epic Games Store installer and not the actual game data.
    *Please note, if your region selection differs from the PS4 system region or the console setting, PlayStationôNetwork online services or DLC may not function properly.
    **Also, please be aware that a PS4 "cross region" selection may cause a shipping delay.

    About stretch goal
    We have provided below an explanation on differences between the stretch goals that were promised during the campaign and the actual elements implemented in the final version.

    Stretch Goals Reached and Final Implementation



    Some stretch goals that were reached during the campaign were not able to be implemented. There were also stretch goals not reached that were able to be implemented. Development began in line with the stretch goal content, but with the addition of sales partners during production, we were able to increase our development budget. In order to maximize game quality under the adjusted budget, game planning was fundamentally altered and ultimately allowed us to incorporate a number of different elements beyond our original expectations. Listed here are the major changes.

    Campaign Stretch Goal Elements
    Achieved stretch goal elements not implemented
    ・Character Perspective System (Implementation could not be achieved in this game.)

    Achieved stretch goal elements changed
    ・Skill Tree System was changed to the Skill Book System to better fit the battling style.
    ・Baisha area changed to Fortified Castle area. Mini-games, infiltration event, battle event, investigation and battle event have been implemented in the Fortified Castle area.

    Stretch goal elements not achieved but implemented
    ・Please see the image above. 10 of the unreached elements will be included in the game.

    Non-Stretch Goal Elements
    Story Improvements
    ・Shenmue III begins the day after Shenmue II leaves off. The story now includes more cinematic scenes and nostalgic flashbacks to naturally draw new players in (and fans back in) to the world of Shenmue.

    Scaled Up Free Roaming Enviroment
    ・Initially, the Guilin area was to be organized into three areas: Bailu, Choubu (Niaowu), and Baisha, but to accommodate major additions and changes to game elements, Baisha became Fortified Castle area, and focus shifted to expanding Choubu (Niaowu). We have in effect been able to achieve a scale greater than that of Shenmue II and bring the fun of an "open world" to life. To better experience quests and events, NPCs and things to interact with in the cities have been multiplied beyond what was originally envisioned making for a more complete Shenmue experience.

    Powered Up Battle System
    ・With the inclusion of the Skill Book System and the Dojo System, you can train or have matches any time you want for deeper, more immersive play. Battle difficulty can be changed in-game to be enjoyable for beginners all the way to experts.

    Game Cycle Improvements
    ・Story progression, skill acquisition, training, mini-games, jobs and other elements that were independent from each other in previous games have been worked to flow into a singular game cycle.


    Message from Yu Suzuki
    I first want to thank all of you for your enduring support from the bottom of my heart. This announcement was made in the coordination of all our partners. As such, it was not presented in a timely fashion which I apologize for. We have at last been able to report the results of the project team's review of the EGS exclusive distribution deal.

    The project team is currently concentrating on finishing up to release the game. We are working hard to deliver a game better than hoped even if by a little for the announced release date. Along with the significant project changes at the heart of this announcement, there have been many other changes since our original assumptions. I believe, however, that the game overall has been strengthened and that Shenmue III has assuredly been transformed and is heading in a positive direction.

    Thank you always for your support.
  • dadrester 2 Jul 2019 12:20:40 2,555 posts
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    So an apology, offer of steam keys a year later along with physical now if you want. And then a bunch of... "but look what we've managed to do thanks to getting more money from publishers/epic store"

    I'm after the PS4 version anyway so more than happy to hear they've managed to get loads more content in there.

    Edited by dadrester at 12:56:08 02-07-2019
  • Ror 2 Jul 2019 12:27:50 18,822 posts
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    All of the game structure stuff sounds good. Hopefully the EGS nonsense doesn't tar the game too much.

    I need to get around to my 2 HD run through soon!
  • evild_edd 2 Jul 2019 12:53:43 4,123 posts
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    For everyone bar the hardened anti-EGS gamers, this can be seen as good news.

    They really should've added this detail alongside the EGS announcement to explain their decision and Deep Silver's contribution. Wouldn't have stopped all the critics, of course (I'd be unsurprised if some of those who were kicking up a stink had no intention of getting S3), but at least it adds some logic behind the decisions.
  • Iwasexclusive 2 Jul 2019 13:14:13 76 posts
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    I'm looking forward to Shenmue 3 as long as it's not another open world game requiring 100+ hours and it does not feature shooting stuff. I hope the emphasis is on Japanese life and exploration and less on combat.
  • Nazo 2 Jul 2019 13:20:00 1,039 posts
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    So the physical PC version just contains an EGS store installer and no game? Whatís the point in that? Canít imagine thatís what anyone who bought the physical version wanted or expected.

    Still at least the refund offer should calm people down hopefully.
  • Ror 2 Jul 2019 13:26:37 18,822 posts
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    But it's set in China, so...

    Also, re: physical PC, a backer did ask them about it (albeit nearly a year ago), and they said the plan was to have the entire game on disc. Obviously plans change, but eh.
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