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Superman: The Man of Steel • Page 55
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ronuds 21,781 posts
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ronuds 21,781 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI thought he stopped the missile, which would have saved everybody. -
It's just a fluff ending that's a bit shoehorned after all the kerfuffle over what parts shot go to Supes 2 and so on.
Long and short of it is that Supes stops one missile, the other detonates. He reverses the spin of the earth which causes time to reverse due to comic-book logic. He stops the other missile and saves the day, except there are large plotholes left in the fact that everyone has the memory of the second missile detonating and that Jimmy somehow ends up in the middle of the Nevada desert even though it's now been set that Supes never saved him from the Hoover Dam.
The even shorter of it is: comic book logic. -
It's not real?! Amazing. -
Launch
Flight
If you love these people so much
What will you do when your not saving the world
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ronuds 21,781 posts
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Registered 15 years agoHe only reverses the earth's spin. While that does cause time to reverse as well, I don't see why that has to mean everyone has forgotten their memory of it.
It would be different if he had gone back in time and stopped it before it happened, but he stopped it after it happened.
I can't explain why the kid's in the middle of nowhere, though.
Edited by ronuds at 16:57:02 21-06-2013 -
simiankid 659 posts
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Registered 20 years ago@mcmonkeyplc - Ah, that sort-of makes sense. But why does Zod need to take his helmet off to get the heat-vision/super-hearing?
EDIT: Gah, didn't quote - I'm still banging on about the atmosphere thing.
Edited by simiankid at 16:58:03 21-06-2013 -
@simiankid
So that he doesn't get fucked when Supes breaks his suit. He'll just break his neck instead.gif)
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rounds attempting to explain a time travel paradox?
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ronuds 21,781 posts
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Registered 15 years agoDeckard1 wrote:
It's reversed, not erased - like a DVD! You hit reverse on a DVD, it doesn't delete everything after when you hit play again.
ronuds wrote:
Why would they remember it if time is reversed. Do you think only the things that happened would unhappen but people would remember them happening? What?
He only reverses the earth's spin. While that does cause time to reverse as well, I don't see why that has to mean everyone has forgotten their memory of it.
If Superman went back in time via a time-travel device and stopped the 2nd missile THEN AND ONLY THEN would the memory of it have been erased, because they never would have had the memory in the first place!
It's all very scientific.
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RichieTenenbaum 2,774 posts
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Registered 11 years agoSaw this last night.
Hated it.
So fed up with boomcrashboom modern blockbusters. -
heyyo 14,356 posts
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Registered 16 years agoIt's pretty similar to Avengers Assemble... -
The final half hour was very Avengers (and Transformers, and a million other films where an entire city gets destroyed by CGI), but the rest wasn't anything like it.
Edited by kalel at 09:05:38 24-06-2013 -
Saw this on Saturday at the iMax in 3D.
Got to say I absolutely loved it. But then I like Snyder's films (apart from Suckerpunch. Which, well, sucked). First supes film I don't hate. Bonus. -
I still have some faith in Snyder as well. He's an odd one, and I can see the temptation to lump him with the likes of Michael Bay, but I don't think it's fair really.
I don't really see how Snyder can be blamed for where this film is flawed. It's nothing to do with the way it's directed. -
CharlieStCloud 5,812 posts
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Registered 11 years agokalel wrote:
I actually like the way it was filmed so, I guess he deserves some plaudits.
I don't really see how Snyder can be blamed for where this film is flawed. It's nothing to do with the way it's directed.
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nickthegun 87,712 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThe problem is that suckass goyer turned up. Theres nothing really wrong with the stuff Snyder directed, its just that Goyer absolutely 100% does not get superman and almost all of the major plot points were absolutely idiotic.
Its funny. I kind of got what I wanted in that I wished to see superman being super for an hour but it was so... un-super its just cold. Apart from the origin stuff, superman could have been interchangable with just about any flying brick hero. It just had no personality, non of the big blue boyscout stuff.
And, as for the end, I dont know if anyone has read j. michael straczynskis Squadron Supreme run, but it felt a *lot* like that.
Edited by nickthegun at 09:18:12 24-06-2013 -
But saying that. It IS starting to get a little tiresome seeing a big city smackdown for half an hour at the end of a film. Time to try something new.
Glad I saw it at the iMax though. Needed the extra screen size to fit big Larry Fishburne in. -
nickthegun 87,712 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI know 'I wont harm innocents, lets take this to the grand canyon/arctic/moon/whatever' isnt very cinematic but its *exactly* the kind of thing superman does and indeed did in superman 2.
He didnt fly around crushing buildings. -
nickthegun 87,712 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThe difference is that Avengers is largely an infantry battle, so its troops versus troops most of the time, shooting it out in the streets. In superman they ceaselessly punch each other through buildings. -
I haven't seen Avengers yet you bumders! -
@nickthegun Maybe the won't harm innocents thing comes later? After all here he's coming to accept who he is and his responsibilities. He also has a lot of anger in him. So this is probably a less mature, considerate supes but possibly it is exactly this kind of carnage that since prompts him to take the fight away from other folk in future? -
nickthegun 87,712 posts
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Registered 16 years agoSee, for me, the whole point of superman is that his parents were so lovely that they instilled him with an innate sense of loveliness so he took up the mantle of superman specifically to be lovely to other people, rather than him having it thrust upon him.
He *chose* to be superman thanks to his moral code rather than having the responsibility grudgingly thrust upon him like a middle manager who gets promoted above his station. -
I know theres a lot of property damage and whatnot but its orders of magnitude smaller than superman.
Also, with regard to the lack of superness..*MASSIVE SPOILER*
I know the phantom zone is a copout but its a copout *specifically* designed so superman never has to snap peoples necks. That really was not cool.
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