AMD Phenom II X6 'Thuban'

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  • grey_matters 12 Apr 2010 19:42:23 5,507 posts
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    The first benchmarks are filtering out now for these 6-core processors. The top product is the 1090T which is 3.2GHz (3.6 with the turbo activated) and initially it seems to match or beat all Intel processors except the i7 980x. This is very unexpected (to me at least), the 980x is $1000-ish with the 1090T just 300 supposedly. It'll slot into nearly all AM3 and a lot of AM2+ boards too.
    Nice!
  • Kostabi 12 Apr 2010 20:10:14 5,926 posts
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    One of the reasons I went AM3 on my last build was because it seemed to be the better longer term option, especially if AMD kept their prices low. Looks like it wasn't a bad punt after all.
  • Deleted user 12 April 2010 20:38:13
    Suddenly my i7 looks a bit...old.

    sigh
  • Widge Moderator 13 Apr 2010 12:05:56 13,858 posts
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    $300?

    So £150?
  • uiruki 13 Apr 2010 12:19:51 5,975 posts
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    Widge wrote:
    $300?

    So £150?

    More like £250. The pound's at USD 1.50 or so.
  • Widge Moderator 13 Apr 2010 13:53:48 13,858 posts
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    Not TOO bad a price. I want an upgrade as my CPU is by far the struggler in my system. So probably £350 once you factor in a mobo.
  • Sandbox 23 Apr 2010 23:45:49 365 posts
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    Aria UK have a teaser banner running - a new "6 core chip will be on sale from 9:30 Tuesday"

    Price?

    £169
  • Dirtbox 24 Apr 2010 00:30:42 92,595 posts
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  • grey_matters 24 Apr 2010 00:34:52 5,507 posts
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    Heh. This'll be a nice step up from my 5600+. That it uses the same motherboard and RAM is unbelievable.
  • Dirtbox 24 Apr 2010 00:35:55 92,595 posts
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  • Sandbox 24 Apr 2010 00:39:13 365 posts
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    Have to say I was expecting £199 min, this is great news, think I'll give my son my 955 and drop one of these into my £55 mobo, should speed up Prem pro a treat.
  • Dirtbox 24 Apr 2010 00:41:43 92,595 posts
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  • Sandbox 24 Apr 2010 00:45:20 365 posts
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    grey_matters wrote:
    Heh. This'll be a nice step up from my 5600+. That it uses the same motherboard and RAM is unbelievable.

    I know - ddr2/ddr3 makes fuck all difference anyway, and as Intel have just announced that Sandybridge will require another bleeding mobo as they are introducing 2 more new sockets - fuck all that
  • Dirtbox 24 Apr 2010 00:48:16 92,595 posts
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  • grey_matters 24 Apr 2010 00:49:40 5,507 posts
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    And the rumours are that 'Bulldozer', which is the next microarchitecture from them is on an AM3+ board but backward compatible with normal AM3. Fair play to AMD, they know how to cling on by their fingertips.
  • Sandbox 24 Apr 2010 00:51:12 365 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Just realised I can pop one of these into my old computer that's currently sat in the garage being used as a server.

    I've got a feeling I'll be needing a onsite generator to power the HSF, but fuck it.

    Most likely! I had to put my 955 under a H50 water cooler before it would overclock properly and shut the fuck up, adding 2 cores means I can at least keep my pie warm a little longer
  • grey_matters 24 Apr 2010 00:52:30 5,507 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Just realised I can pop one of these into my old computer that's currently sat in the garage being used as a server.

    I've got a feeling I'll be needing a onsite generator to power the HSF, but fuck it.
    They operate at the same thermal level as the x4. They've a new process. It's all very impressive.
  • Dirtbox 24 Apr 2010 01:03:11 92,595 posts
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  • Sandbox 27 Apr 2010 10:05:31 365 posts
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    AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.80GHz - £153 on Aria
    AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.20GHz Black - £227

    Review

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-890fx,review-31882.html

    Really depends on 1) what you do, for me HD video editing in CS4 looks good on this chip, and 2) what platform you currently have- - I have an AM3 system and a 1366 - the AM3 will be getting a 1090 in June, so I will let you know.

    But, multi-core is the future, and this looks like excellent bang for buck - you can now get a good mobo and 6-core for £200
  • grey_matters 27 Apr 2010 10:25:28 5,507 posts
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    The Turbo feature only works on windows operating systems it seems. There may be a fix later but the two extra cores should still be very useful in Linux.
  • Deleted user 27 April 2010 23:08:41
    This does all sounds very good i recently built a new PC and decided to go AMD with a 965 on AM3. I know it is a bit lower than a i5 but i thought that the AM3 standard would last longer and AMD seamed to be more bang for your buck .

    This confirms what my thoughts were a couple of months ago, yay.
  • Deleted user 27 April 2010 23:34:42
    My next PC will be AMD. Intel can stick their various sockets up their arses. Sideways.
  • Sandbox 15 Oct 2010 10:27:54 365 posts
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    Finally had a chance to do some proper testing. 2 computers are

    i7 920 on EX58-UD5 6gb Dominator 1600Mhz DDR3 WD Cav Blue 500gb ATI4670
    Phenom x6 1055T on 870A-UD3 4 Ggb Dominator 1333Mhz DDR3 same HDD ATI4670
    Both on a fresh install on W7 Enterprise 64

    Clocked both to 3.3GHz, left on all the other CPU crap, HT, Turbo etc etc (the i7 is my work machine with a basic water cooler - Cool-it, the AMD is a machine I have made for a work mate and is on the stock cooler)

    First off, temps - the AMD is simply amazing, at 3.3 on stock cooler it idles at 22, prolonged 100% maxed at 42 - dunno what they have done with the x6 as my home machine (965) is a bit of a cooker, but it works, could push this much further on stock cooling for sure. i7 idles at about 36, hits mid 60's under full load.

    Performance - ok, these are about the same as you can get and I have clocked them both at 3.3 to try and see what they do clock for clock as both chips will hit about 4ghz with the right cooling.

    I ran wprime 32, the i7 did it in 12.088, the x6 11.949.

    Tried a Handbreak transcode of a DVD rip on standard settings, the i7 average frame rate was 239 the x6 245.

    Ran a few other tests and got similar results, the x6 was slightly faster than the i7.

    I'm impressed, and the x6 works out about £130 cheaper for the CPU/Motherboard, and the AMD 870 gives you all the latest goodies such as SATA 3 and usb 3.

    Next week I am going to put a 5770 in both machines and do a few gaming tests, so I will report back then.
  • grey_matters 15 Oct 2010 10:35:47 5,507 posts
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    Good stuff Sandbox. I still haven't plugged mine in to upgrade from the X2 5600+. I'd expect the i7 to pull ahead with the 5770 fairly comfortably in the majority of games. Although I suppose you could afford a 5850 to go with the x6 with the savings and that would change things.
  • THFourteen 15 Oct 2010 10:45:31 54,987 posts
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    N@ wrote:
    Suddenly my i7 looks a bit...old.

    sigh

    no way

    i've had my i7 920 for nearly 2 years now, and i still havent found anything that taxes it (admittedly i dont do any 3d gfx design / rendering or anything)

    will be adding an SSD, and replacing my ATI 4870 with a 6000 model for birthday / xmas, and it'll still be a monster.
  • grey_matters 15 Oct 2010 10:47:38 5,507 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    N@ wrote:
    Suddenly my i7 looks a bit...old.

    sigh

    no way

    i've had my i7 920 for nearly 2 years now, and i still havent found anything that taxes it (admittedly i dont do any 3d gfx design / rendering or anything)

    will be adding an SSD, and replacing my ATI 4870 with a 6000 model for birthday / xmas, and it'll still be a monster.
    Yep, the 920 are/were great chips. You've years left in it yet with good graphics choices (and maybe a bit of overclocking later if you haven't already).
  • Deleted user 18 October 2010 06:04:11
    I spend most of my PC time on a X4 955@3.8Ghz at the mo and tbh really can't tell the difference from my i7 for most tasks (including gaming). I really didn't need the i7 at all as it turns out. The i7 is great for encoding HD video but again, I don't do a lot of that these days so...

    The X6 series are intriguing for sure but I don't need that sort of power for now.


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    22c using a stock cooler?! Is cool 'n' quiet enabled? I'm happy with 26-27c idle temp for my 955 (CnQ disabled) but that's using a pretty decent Zalman cooler. O_o
  • erictheking 18 Oct 2010 06:45:09 111 posts
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    uiruki wrote:
    Widge wrote:
    $300?

    So £150?

    More like £250. The pound's at USD 1.50 or so.

    $300 / 1.5 = 200 of your great british pounds!
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