House vs Flat Page 2

  • otto Moderator 17 Apr 2010 16:00:23 49,322 posts
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    Living on your own? City centre flat, for sure. Time enough for houses and gardens when you're settled down. Nothing more soul-destroying when you're on your own than living in a family house and suffering a long commute.
  • StixxUK 17 Apr 2010 16:03:37 8,755 posts
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    Flat all the way. Get a decent one, and get an electric drum kit!
  • localnotail 17 Apr 2010 18:54:04 23,079 posts
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    otto wrote:
    Living on your own? City centre flat, for sure. Time enough for houses and gardens when you're settled down. Nothing more soul-destroying when you're on your own than living in a family house and suffering a long commute.
    He wants to share with a mate, he hates other people's noise, and he's got a drum kit.
  • 1Dgaf 17 Apr 2010 19:58:02 5,211 posts
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    I'd imagine sharing with a friend who can't pay rent - as well as planning anything with him in mind - could be a recipe for disaster.

    He moves in, can't pay, you get pissed off, friendship ends.

    You wait for him, he gets offered a job away from the flat, he leaves, you don't have enough cash now he's not coming, friendship ends.
  • Phily50 17 Apr 2010 20:31:26 2,384 posts
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    Ground floor maisonette=best of both worlds.
  • otto Moderator 17 Apr 2010 20:59:35 49,322 posts
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    Getting out of a long-term relationship would for me be the excuse to get a city-centre flat on my own, wild horses would not make me share with a mate or live in the suburbs, but each to their own.
  • Khanivor 17 Apr 2010 21:08:01 44,800 posts
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    After years spent living in different flats, each and every one of them possessing at least one neighbour with a fucking shite taste in music only matched by their need to play it loudly all the time, I can't say enough how much less stressed out my life is living in a detached house.

    I'm also very sensitive to noise pollution; it took me many months to get used to the traffic on the road outside of the house, but at least I don't have to worry about some twat rolling in at 4AM with a burning desire to listen to frigging trance music. I can't say I miss being able to tell which room my upstairs neighbours are in through the medium of their thoughtfully installed hardwood floors much either.
  • eleven63 17 Apr 2010 21:22:26 3,052 posts
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    Or go for an older (Victorian) place - at least they knew how to build them... flat or house, well built and with character...

    /would say that living in a purpose-built, ground floor, sole use, 2 bed flat, built 1890...
  • Zomoniac 17 Apr 2010 23:02:03 10,628 posts
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    1Dgaf wrote:
    I'd imagine sharing with a friend who can't pay rent - as well as planning anything with him in mind - could be a recipe for disaster.

    He moves in, can't pay, you get pissed off, friendship ends.

    You wait for him, he gets offered a job away from the flat, he leaves, you don't have enough cash now he's not coming, friendship ends.

    I know that, and I know the risks, which is why I want somewhere I can afford if for whatever reason he finds himself without a job or needing to relocate. I'm factoring in that possibility.
  • Zomoniac 17 Apr 2010 23:02:34 10,628 posts
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    Phily50 wrote:
    Ground floor maisonette=best of both worlds.

    Ground floor = easy to break into.
  • Zomoniac 17 Apr 2010 23:04:31 10,628 posts
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    Khanivor wrote:
    After years spent living in different flats, each and every one of them possessing at least one neighbour with a fucking shite taste in music only matched by their need to play it loudly all the time, I can't say enough how much less stressed out my life is living in a detached house.

    I'm also very sensitive to noise pollution; it took me many months to get used to the traffic on the road outside of the house, but at least I don't have to worry about some twat rolling in at 4AM with a burning desire to listen to frigging trance music. I can't say I miss being able to tell which room my upstairs neighbours are in through the medium of their thoughtfully installed hardwood floors much either.


    The places I'm looking at are a few hundred yards outside of town, not by a main road. And I wouldn't consider anything not on a top floor, for footstep reasons. The music thing is just as much an issue with attached houses, and you have to go quite a way out of town (or into the areas with £3k+ a month rent) to find detached stuff.
  • Zomoniac 17 Apr 2010 23:05:08 10,628 posts
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    Smuggo wrote:
    Zomoniac wrote:
    Phily50 wrote:
    Ground floor maisonette=best of both worlds.

    Ground floor = easy to break into.

    Zomoniac = paranoid crazy

    Yes, I'm well aware of that. It's not something that most other people consider, but it's sort of a deal breaker for me.
  • MrCarrot 17 Apr 2010 23:05:33 3,524 posts
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    Smuggo wrote:
    Zomoniac wrote:
    Phily50 wrote:
    Ground floor maisonette=best of both worlds.

    Ground floor = easy to break into.

    Zomoniac = paranoid crazy

    Either that or a burglar...
  • Zomoniac 17 Apr 2010 23:14:16 10,628 posts
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    Ok, so it's right next to a motorway, but other than that this looks cool. Top floor(s), about 500m from my office and fucking huuuuge. I could have drums in the bedroom and not annoy the neighbours!
  • Deleted user 17 April 2010 23:18:38
    In the flat I'm in now with the girlfriend I was pondering one day how we have actually been very lucky in having great neighbours that don't play shitty loud music or shout all the time. As it is almost impossible to not find at least one flat occupied by such people.


    The it occurred to me that we were those people. We are the cunts next door that are always playing shit too loud and shouting all the time. In this building we are those cunts. :(
  • Khanivor 17 Apr 2010 23:19:07 44,800 posts
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    The bedroom looks like a set from a bad TV sci-fi show :S
  • Zomoniac 17 Apr 2010 23:19:08 10,628 posts
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    blizeH wrote:
    Do it.

    Sadly I'm contracted here for another couple of months and can't afford to pay for that and my current place or I would. On the tiny, minute chance it's still available then I'll be on it in a heartbeat. It's the first place I've seen I've been genuinely excited by. Most of the city centre flats have bedrooms the size of a bed, no wardrobes, nowhere to put in a wardrobe. They only seem suitable for naturists, certainly not for people where they might actually want some stuff that isn't kept in the living room.
  • speedofthepuma 17 Apr 2010 23:20:01 13,428 posts
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    That flat looks amazing.
  • Hunam 17 Apr 2010 23:21:36 20,675 posts
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    I'd buy that for a dollar!
  • Deleted user 17 April 2010 23:24:11
    speedofthepuma wrote:
    That flat looks amazing.
    Expensive, but bloody stunning.
  • elstoof 17 Apr 2010 23:26:09 28,125 posts
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    Expensive? Meh, move to London pal, mymplace is more than that and about a quarter of the size.
  • Zomoniac 17 Apr 2010 23:32:34 10,628 posts
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    mowgli wrote:
    speedofthepuma wrote:
    That flat looks amazing.
    Expensive, but bloody stunning.

    It is expensive, but my current place, a four-bed detached about 3 miles from Sheffield centre, costs £800 a month. Factor in the £200+ a month I spend on commuting to Leeds, plus the extra cost of heating somewhere that size, and it'll work out roughly the same. So, false economy, or something.
  • Tomo 17 Apr 2010 23:34:55 19,565 posts
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    For a two bedroom place like that, £1,100 isn't bad.

    Oh. It's in Leeds. I thought we were talking London. That's fucking expensive then :p
  • Zomoniac 17 Apr 2010 23:36:38 10,628 posts
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    Tomo wrote:
    For a two bedroom place like that, £1,100 isn't bad.

    Oh. It's in Leeds. I thought we were talking London. That's fucking expensive then :p

    I said I wanted to leave Sheffield because it was a shithole, not leave because I aspire to live in the one place that's worse!
  • Dougs 17 Apr 2010 23:42:16 100,414 posts
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    Surely if a ground floor maisonettw gets you worried about burglary, so will a house? Can understand the worry but at the end of the day, that's what insurance is there for.
  • Zomoniac 17 Apr 2010 23:45:27 10,628 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Surely if a ground floor maisonettw gets you worried about burglary, so will a house? Can understand the worry but at the end of the day, that's what insurance is there for.

    Yeah, which is why I'm leaning towards a flat. What is a ground floor maisonette anyway? If it has people living upstairs then that's the worst of every possible thing, surely?
  • elstoof 17 Apr 2010 23:48:37 28,125 posts
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    I can see where Zomaniac is coming from here about the living above ground level thing, you need to feel secure in your home and insurance doesn't take away the feeling that someone has forced their way into your home and gone through your things. It'll recover the material cost of your lost belongings but it won't get you back your photos or the coat you've had for 10 years or your FF7 saves on the stolen memory card...
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