Khanivor wrote:Have you read all the stuff in statsonic's link? |
Amanda Knox Innocent or guilty? • Page 13
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Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Khanivor 44,800 posts
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Registered 20 years agoThe one on the website 'WhyAmandaKnoxIsAMurderingBitch'? -
Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agoKhanivor wrote:
Exactly.
The one on the website 'WhyAmandaKnoxIsAMurderingBitch'? -
FWB 56,369 posts
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Registered 20 years agoNo offense, Khan, but reread your post. Sounds like something a conspiracy nut would post. That's not to say that she is guilty, but your speculation that it has something to do with a few people in government being annoyed about extradition? You are going down niteninja's path. -
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Registered 20 years agoWhy am I not surprised. -
Khanivor 44,800 posts
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Registered 20 years ago@FWB - none taken; it's just a theory. One that has as much solid evidence as those that have convicted those two people .gif)
It'll be interesting to see what the court gives as its reasons for convicting them a second time. And whether their appeal will be successful.
I've no idea about the inner workings and connections of the Italian legal system but I'd be quite surprised if these prosecutions and convictions have occurred in a special interest vacuum. -
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Registered 20 years agoYou're right that it's taking place in a particular political context, but my view is that the justice system of a relatively liberal and free society has come to this conclusion, and they are in a better position to decide than me. Flaws there may be, but I'm not in a position to fairly assess them.
Either way, it's what has been decided by a state whose sovereignty we do respect, and as such she should be sent back. -
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Registered 20 years agoArmoured_Bear wrote:
And then they decided to invite a stranger in to fuck the corpse, before making it look like a break in. OF COURSE THAT HAPPENED.
statssonic wrote:
There's not a fucking chance that she's innocent, she may not have put the knife in but she was either holding her while they killed her or she helped cover up afterwards.
Reading this has convinced me now that the accusations of being leaned on to frame the african bar owner during the interview was a cover up.
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FWB 56,369 posts
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Registered 20 years agoAccording to the Stasi, a guilty person would never change their story. It'd always be exactly the same. Of course changing all the time is a sure sign of innocence.
Not that I have read anything about this case. I don't want to, cos I don't want to speculate. But what I will say is that Brucie looks like a paedo. -
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Registered 20 years agoSo there's zero chance that there is corruption going on? There's nothing dodgy about the guy who there's zero doubt was involved in the murder getting his sentence cut in half after reversing his story and saying Knox was at the crime scene?
If you're going with the idea that it has to be above board then that makes the Italian system of justice a lot less corrupted than the British one. It's not just a case of the Italians, per se, are corrupt. It's a case of the police anywhere in the world having a strong tendency to want someone in jail for a public crime. That person's guilt is fairly immaterial.
Anyway, I think the presentation of evidence on that impartial website is far more credible than the opinion of the appeals court which stated that the guilty verdict "was not corroborated by any objective element of evidence". -
Khanivor 44,800 posts
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Registered 20 years agoTo provide a little balance
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Ziz0u 11,006 posts
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Registered 12 years agoIt was Oscar Pistorius. -
Ziz0u 11,006 posts
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Registered 12 years agoIt was Oscar Pistorius. -
Ziz0u 11,006 posts
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Registered 12 years agoAhem -
Double jeopardy! -
Tbh though I see the reason for the existence of such a law. The suspicion is never going to go away once you've been through a trial once, and eventually the mud is going to stick.
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Khanivor wrote:
To provide a little balanceShe was 20 years old, had only a very basic understanding of Italian, and had never been questioned by police before. Despite putting on a brave front, she was terrified at what had happened to Meredith Kercher, and was worried that the killer could still be around, and that she herself could have been killed if she had not been at Raffaele’s flat the night of the murder. It was 12 experienced adult police officers, and an interpreter employed by the police (who spent the whole time trying to get Amanda to confess), against a scared, exhausted, naive, inexperienced girl who didn’t understand a good portion of what they were asking her. She was alone, and 6000 miles away from home in a foreign country. Facing police who had already decided she was guilty, without any evidence other than their own intuition from observing the way she walked, talked, dressed, etc.
Come on. A bunch of tabloid-text does not provide balance. -
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Registered 8 years agoRightBean wrote:
I concur, a compelling defence.
You are failing to take her tits into account
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Sir_Walter_Rally wrote:
I thought that came with the XX chromosome?
I think anyone reasonably intelligent can tell she's a manipulator and telling fibs. Well guilty. -
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Registered 14 years agoHow many people have called her a KILF in this thread? -
MILF should still do. M for Murderer -
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Registered 17 years agoDeckard1 wrote:
A shopkeeper has said he seen her in the morning (when she claims she was asleep) buying cleaning goods. .Marco Quintavalle is the store owner who came forward 1 year after the murder after continuous requests by a journalist who got him on TV. He testified that he saw Amanda in his store the morning after the murder and she was showing an urgency to buy something in the cleaning section but left without buying anything. Investigators checked Quintavalle’s roll of tickets and found no bleach was purchased yet Massei concluded Amanda purchased bleach anyway, despite no bleach receipt ever being produced and there was bleach at the cottage and at Raffaele’s apartment anyways. Quintavalle’s testimony contradicted the statements that he made to Inspector Orestes Volturno on November 19, 2007 when he was shown photographs of Amanda and Raffaele and denied seeing them the morning after the murder and the two or so times he did see them, they were both together. [9] Ana Marina Chiriboga who worked in the store was asked in October, 2008 if she had seen Amanda November 2, 2007 and said no which she repeated in court on June 26, 2009. Investigative journalist Bob Graham reported that when he confronted Quintavalle about Chiriboga saying Amanda wasn’t in the store, he terminated the interview. [10]
http://murderofmeredithkercher.com/evidence-synopsis/
Almost EVERYTHING about this case is fucked up. There's almost no one credible.
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Mola_Ram 26,187 posts
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Registered 9 years agoThe level of obsession over this (the bleach, the locked door, THE BRA CLASP, etc) boggles my mind. I guess murders are usually like this, but don't usually generate enough interest to fill a wiki. -
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Registered 10 years agoMola_Ram wrote:
This one involves an attractive middle class woman from the US.
The level of obsession over this (the bleach, the locked door, THE BRA CLASP, etc) boggles my mind. I guess murders are usually like this, but don't usually generate enough interest to fill a wiki. -
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Registered 10 years agoBremenacht wrote:
So you have two Wiki sites, both massively biased and massive contradictions everywhere.
Khanivor wrote:
To provide a little balanceShe was 20 years old, had only a very basic understanding of Italian, and had never been questioned by police before. Despite putting on a brave front, she was terrified at what had happened to Meredith Kercher, and was worried that the killer could still be around, and that she herself could have been killed if she had not been at Raffaele’s flat the night of the murder. It was 12 experienced adult police officers, and an interpreter employed by the police (who spent the whole time trying to get Amanda to confess), against a scared, exhausted, naive, inexperienced girl who didn’t understand a good portion of what they were asking her. She was alone, and 6000 miles away from home in a foreign country. Facing police who had already decided she was guilty, without any evidence other than their own intuition from observing the way she walked, talked, dressed, etc.
Come on. A bunch of tabloid-text does not provide balance.
I've read many times that her Italian was poor yet others stating that she gave evidence in fluent Italian.
I've no idea what to believe. -
Maybe her Italian WAS poor, but after 4 years in an italian prison, it was pretty good? You sure they were referring to the same trials? Plus, I speak a bit of french - sometimes I can sound pretty fluent, at other times I'll really struggle. It depends a lot on the topic of the conversation, and if I've talked about it before.
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