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thedaveeyres 2 Feb 2014 10:36:17 13,925 posts
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I can't believe people are arguing that there is no room for reasonable doubt about her guilt. There blatantly is.

Armoured_Bear 2 Feb 2014 10:41:35 31,233 posts
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spindizzy wrote:
Maybe her Italian WAS poor, but after 4 years in an italian prison, it was pretty good? You sure they were referring to the same trials? Plus, I speak a bit of french - sometimes I can sound pretty fluent, at other times I'll really struggle. It depends a lot on the topic of the conversation, and if I've talked about it before.

Yes, that's true and "fluent" is used incorrectly all the time.People without knowledge of a language perceive any level of the language to be "fluent".

Armoured_Bear 2 Feb 2014 10:44:16 31,233 posts
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thedaveeyres wrote:
I can't believe people are arguing that there is no room for reasonable doubt about her guilt. There blatantly is.

There definitely is, having just read Wikpedia's more balanced version the prosecution is incredibly dodgy and there seems to be bugger all evidence against Knox's bf.
If she hadn't changed her story so many times and falsely accused someone it wouldn't really be under discussion.

sega 2 Feb 2014 10:49:55 908 posts
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I've been following this for the past couple of days and I've come to the conclusion that she shouldn't have even been arrested, never mind convicted.

That's not to say I'm certain without doubt that she's completely innocent, but there's just not enough evidence. There is strong evidence about the actual killer, though, who has been convicted. However Knox's involvement is just speculation and the only evidence being "strange behaviour" and her own DNA being found in the place she lives. You just can't convict a person on such little evidence - you need to be certain.

FWB 2 Feb 2014 10:50:39 56,369 posts
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Linguistically, "fluency" refers to speed of production. It is not the same as accuracy. But of course we generally use the term "fluent" to refer to proficiency.

thedaveeyres 2 Feb 2014 10:52:13 13,925 posts
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Armoured_Bear wrote:
If she hadn't changed her story so many times and falsely accused someone it wouldn't really be under discussion.

That has zero bearing on the burden of proof being beyond reasonable doubt, it's just fuel for salacious stories about the case. It has no core relevance - the law isn't about things 'looking a bit suss'.

skuzzbag 2 Feb 2014 10:56:52 5,950 posts
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I didn't realise that the police all over the world were all corrupt and want to get someone put away regardless of whether they are the culprit or not.

However I just read it here so it must be true!

Those dastardly police detectives! It's all a sham!

thedaveeyres 2 Feb 2014 11:05:17 13,925 posts
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skuzzbag wrote:
I didn't realise that the police all over the world were all corrupt and want to get someone put away regardless of whether they are the culprit or not.

However I just read it here so it must be true!

Those dastardly police detectives! It's all a sham!

You're showing a woeful ignorance of how things are done in Italy.

Here's exhibit A: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due

Corruption in Italy isn't just rife, it's systematic, organised, codified and runs literally from the top to the bottom of all political and judicial offices, and that's not even tin foil territory, it's fact (as above). Ambition and factional in-fighting between the elements of power are the prime movers in political and judicial affairs there.

Edited by thedaveeyres at 11:11:36 02-02-2014

Armoured_Bear 2 Feb 2014 11:10:42 31,233 posts
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thedaveeyres wrote:

Armoured_Bear wrote:
If she hadn't changed her story so many times and falsely accused someone it wouldn't really be under discussion.
That has zero bearing on the burden of proof being beyond reasonable doubt, it's just fuel for salacious stories about the case. It has no core relevance - the law isn't about things 'looking a bit suss'.

I meant amongst the general public, not the prosecution.

Decks 30 Sep 2016 21:59:40 31,013 posts
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Can everyone watch the new Netflix documentary so we can argue about it please.

Deleted user 30 September 2016 22:06:45

Decks wrote:
Can everyone watch the new Netflix documentary so we can argue about it please.

Noticed this on there. Will try and watch it over the weekend.

mothercruncher 30 Sep 2016 22:16:28 19,474 posts
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Hoping for MAXIMUM fox action.
Plus some shit about a murder or summat.

Deleted user 30 September 2016 22:19:53

What's it called on the net of flix?

Deleted user 30 September 2016 22:24:02

addyb wrote:
What's it called on the net of flix?

"A Sexy Evil Murderer."

Decks helped with the title.

Deleted user 1 October 2016 21:03:03

Fuck me, that Nick Pisa is a massive cunt isn't he?

Humperfunk 1 Oct 2016 21:09:17 8,634 posts
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Just finished this minute, and yeah that Nick Pisa bloke really is a grade A cunt.

Also get an imagination, just because your surname is Pisa doesn't mean you have to work in Italy.

HairyArse 1 Oct 2016 21:18:22 1,476 posts
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I actually believed that she didn't do it. I just think she just likes ass burgers so her behaviour can be a little odd at inappropriate moments.

Jono62 1 Oct 2016 21:19:18 27,356 posts
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He is such a cunt. That's something we all can agree on.

Fab4 1 Oct 2016 22:03:49 8,924 posts
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I dont think she done it either. Its like the 'Making a Murderer' case. If she did it, and given the amount of blood at the scene, why wasn't her DNA all over the place? Or Meredith's DNA all over her?

Decks 1 Oct 2016 22:12:47 31,013 posts
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I watched a documentary a few years ago that made a big deal about all the traces of bleach about the place as though things had been cleaned up. Found it weird that it wasn't mentioned in this.

But yeah as I said in some other thread last night, it's telling that in a documentary about a young girl getting her throat cut open the person that comes across as the biggest piece of shit is the daily mail journalist.

Deleted user 1 October 2016 22:13:40

The Daily Mail cunt was a massive cunt. I think he did it.

Deleted user 1 October 2016 22:29:59

The one thing Foxy Knoxy definitely is guilty of is giving us lads all massive bonners (is that how you say it?)

elstoof 1 Oct 2016 22:33:06 28,125 posts
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Like you, I would like to empty my rocks in Amanda Knox

Deleted user 1 October 2016 22:34:53

I would suck her cock so good

Decks 1 Oct 2016 22:44:03 31,013 posts
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She could gut me like a fish any day.

neilka 1 Oct 2016 23:09:30 24,021 posts
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She's no Rose West.

Decks 1 Oct 2016 23:29:23 31,013 posts
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Myra Hindley was the gold standard. She looked like Marilyn Monroes mildly disabled sister. Let herself go when she started drinking from the furry cup though.

Ziz0u 2 Oct 2016 04:57:27 11,006 posts
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I'd let her murder me real good.

UncleLou Moderator 2 Oct 2016 08:25:15 40,723 posts
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"Rudy's" attorney cracks me up. "This courthouse was built in 1308..."

SuperCoolEskimo 2 Oct 2016 10:03:20 11,892 posts
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That was very biased in her favour.

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