Following Buying a Macbook Pro? Page 17

  • nickthegun 15 Jun 2012 12:24:55 87,712 posts
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    Whatever you do, buy applecare. Anything that goes wrong with this laptop and it'll be half the cost of a new machine to get it fixed.

    Ram problem? New logic board.

    Dead battery? New topcase and a plentiful bounty of labour

    Screen died? Time to sell a kidney.
  • Deleted user 15 June 2012 12:27:09
    I would be wary of the first version of Apples (or any company for that matter) hardware with new tech inside.

    I had a first generation model of the MBP with the dynamic graphic hardware switching and predictably enough it died just out of warranty due to a duff graphic processor on the logic board.

    Nice £399 or so repair bill to get it working again :-(

    Personally I'll wait for them to release a 13" MBP with the new technology, by which time hopefully any issues will have been ironed out and apps will by and large have been optimised for the display.

    ...

    Edit: What Nick says if you absolutely must buy now!

    Edited by BeardofZeus at 12:27:52 15-06-2012

    Edited by BeardofZeus at 12:28:07 15-06-2012
  • nickthegun 15 Jun 2012 12:28:14 87,712 posts
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    This is also true. The first gen of apple hardware is always terrible.

    The first shipments of 27" iMacs couldnt power the enormous screens properly.
  • Fab4 15 Jun 2012 12:28:24 8,924 posts
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    I always buy Applecare. However the one thing that ever went wrong with my Apple products was covered by a recall. It was picked up in the morning by a local Applecare provider and came back the same night at 6pm. Couldnt have been smoother.
  • nickthegun 15 Jun 2012 12:37:26 87,712 posts
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    Christ, we would never do that.
  • Deleted user 15 June 2012 12:57:10
    I just use house insurance, access is £150.
  • mrpon 15 Jun 2012 13:01:50 37,367 posts
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    Expensive. Think I'll break in instead.
  • PhoenixFlames 16 Jun 2012 14:43:45 9,263 posts
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    Rather pleased at picking up a 20" Apple Cinema display for £130 of eBay this morning. Will be using as a display extension for my new MacBook.

    I know the display is old now but it still has a few good features including anti-glare coating, extra USB slots and nice design. Good price I thought.

    Edit: and these things cost hundreds a few years back!

    Edited by PhoenixFlames at 15:09:41 16-06-2012
  • PhoenixFlames 20 Jun 2012 14:57:54 9,263 posts
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    Just been to the Apple store to check out the Retina MacBook. Not massively impressed with it when side by side with a normal 15" pro.

    I looked at the screen an immediately thought "what's hi-res about it?" Then I noticed that icons on the doc looked sharper, but other than that not a great deal IMO.

    Form factor is nice but when taking price, upgradability/fixabilty and lack of optical drive into consideration I'd say the normal 15" is the better option.

    After I'd had a look at it, I overheard a couple of blokes looking at the Retina and saying pretty much what I said.

    In others news, UPS has left my 13" pro with a neighbour ready for when I get home! New shiny!! :-)
  • Kay 20 Jun 2012 15:00:47 21,321 posts
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    PhoenixFlames wrote:
    Form factor is nice but when taking price, upgradability/fixabilty and lack of optical drive into consideration I'd say the normal 15" is the better option.
    I was thinking the same thing, but when I specced up the 15" base model with a 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM, it ended up costing much more than the retina model!

    I'm actually considering just going with a 13" Air now, as - a bit of gaming aside - can't think of anything really taxing that I'd be doing on the Pro.
  • THFourteen 20 Jun 2012 15:16:37 54,987 posts
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    I'm not sure about the Retina Macbook Pro's. If you play any games on it, they will look shit at non-native res.
  • PhoenixFlames 20 Jun 2012 15:31:16 9,263 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    I'm not sure about the Retina Macbook Pro's. If you play any games on it, they will look shit at non-native res.
    I've never really seen the appeal of any laptop/Macbook as a gaming machine anyway. I always look at MacBooks as a productivity tool - video, photo, design, communication etc.

    I can't see anyone thinking "I need a gaming machine...MacBook it is!"
  • Kay 20 Jun 2012 15:35:33 21,321 posts
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    It's more a case of using the Macbook to play indie games/stuff I bought on Steam ages ago but have never got round to playing.
  • THFourteen 20 Jun 2012 15:47:19 54,987 posts
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    are the mac and pc steam stores cross platform? you'd save money getting a windows laptop...

    wouldn't look as nice I guess.
  • Dirtbox 20 Jun 2012 15:48:46 92,600 posts
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  • Kay 20 Jun 2012 15:52:24 21,321 posts
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    Most of the games I have are cross compatible, I think. For the stuff that isn't I'll just use Windows instead.

    Quite a few reasons for why I'd get a Macbook over a Windows laptop. For one thing, the trackpad is far better than anything I've tried on a Windows machine.
  • PhoenixFlames 20 Jun 2012 15:52:44 9,263 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    @PhoenixFlames Then what's the point in buying one with a shitload of hardware that you'll never actually get any use from. Just get a bottom run air, it'll do all that.
    It'll do what...video editing, graphic design? Not on anything other than small files I imagine. Also, I use the optical drive and like the sturdiness of the pro.

    Edit: and it's waiting for me at home right now! :-) I even managed to buy via the Education store despite not being a student, picking up a hefty discount and £70 iTunes voucher into the bargain \o/

    Edited by PhoenixFlames at 15:54:36 20-06-2012
  • Dirtbox 20 Jun 2012 15:54:53 92,600 posts
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  • PhoenixFlames 20 Jun 2012 15:55:50 9,263 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Yeah, it would.

    Having done both for fucking decades I know it for a fact.
    Oh well. Don't get your knickers in a twist. My money, my choice and all that old boy.
  • Kay 20 Jun 2012 15:56:15 21,321 posts
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    PhoenixFlames wrote:
    I even managed to buy via the Education store despite not being a student, picking up a hefty discount and £70 iTunes voucher into the bargain \o/
    This, too. You get free 3-year Applecare thrown in as well.
  • PhoenixFlames 20 Jun 2012 15:56:48 9,263 posts
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    Kay wrote:
    PhoenixFlames wrote:
    I even managed to buy via the Education store despite not being a student, picking up a hefty discount and £70 iTunes voucher into the bargain \o/
    This, too. You get free 3-year Applecare thrown in as well.
    I did not know that! Cool.
  • Deleted user 20 June 2012 15:57:59
    PhoenixFlames wrote:
    Just been to the Apple store to check out the Retina MacBook. Not massively impressed with it when side by side with a normal 15" pro.
    New eyes!!! Standard 15" Pro is far too low res, which is why I took mine back the other month.

    Each to their own I suppose.
  • THFourteen 20 Jun 2012 16:00:41 54,987 posts
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    CrispyXUK wrote:
    PhoenixFlames wrote:
    Just been to the Apple store to check out the Retina MacBook. Not massively impressed with it when side by side with a normal 15" pro.
    New eyes!!! Standard 15" Pro is far too low res, which is why I took mine back the other month.

    Each to their own I suppose.
    depends what you are doing with them i guess. My last laptop was 1080p and i wished i'd bought a much lower res screen, like 1366x768. The 1080p screen was nice enough for videos (most of mine are SD), nice enough for photos, but when playing games either i had to lower detail to play at that res, or run at non-native res which just looked shite.

    currently trying to sell it, and if i do buy a replacement i'll be getting a lower res screen for sure.
  • Dirtbox 20 Jun 2012 16:00:57 92,600 posts
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  • PhoenixFlames 20 Jun 2012 16:05:18 9,263 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    PhoenixFlames wrote:
    Dirtbox wrote:
    Yeah, it would.

    Having done both for fucking decades I know it for a fact.
    Oh well. Don't get your knickers in a twist. My money, my choice and all that old boy.
    Just another magnificent example of some brainless vacuum buying da bezt because Apple logo. Marvellous.
    That's a bit harsh. I'm fully aware that I am paying a premium because of the brand but I like the design of the hardware and I can afford it so why not?
  • Deleted user 20 June 2012 16:06:54
    THFourteen wrote:
    CrispyXUK wrote:
    PhoenixFlames wrote:
    Just been to the Apple store to check out the Retina MacBook. Not massively impressed with it when side by side with a normal 15" pro.
    New eyes!!! Standard 15" Pro is far too low res, which is why I took mine back the other month.

    Each to their own I suppose.
    depends what you are doing with them i guess. My last laptop was 1080p and i wished i'd bought a much lower res screen, like 1366x768. The 1080p screen was nice enough for videos (most of mine are SD), nice enough for photos, but when playing games either i had to lower detail to play at that res, or run at non-native res which just looked shite.

    currently trying to sell it, and if i do buy a replacement i'll be getting a lower res screen for sure.
    Well I don't by laptops for gaming, and I only play indie games anyway, besides that the resolution is double standard resolutions so exact pixel doubling looks much much better than scaling at odd non-integer ratios.

    I want more desktop real estate when working and that's it.
  • Dirtbox 20 Jun 2012 16:07:16 92,600 posts
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  • PhoenixFlames 20 Jun 2012 16:19:53 9,263 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Sorry, mindless, uninformed consumerism for the sake of itself just pisses me off. As you were.

    ed: actually that's probably the crux of every single negative thing I've ever said on this forum about whatever mass produced toy of the moment. Huh, I'm a fucking hippy crossed with scrooge.
    Jesus H Christ. I'm not uniformed, I know what the specs are, what the OS can do, how reliable the hardware is, how well-reviewed Apple Care is etc...

    And the bottom line for me is that it's the most well-designed laptop on the market IMO, so I want it. There's no argument really, I want it so I bought it. If you don't want it, don't buy it.
  • yegon 20 Jun 2012 16:30:45 6,511 posts
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    Remember to buy Apple Care from CeX or somewhere like that. Got Apple Care for both my old MBP and 2011 MBA for less than half what it retails at in the Apple store.

    Regarding first rev of macs, there are some examples of them being shakey, but my late 08 mbp (rev1) is still performing admirably as a media centre. Got the trackpad and optical drive replaced on it via the Apple Care purchased in the above manner, that was after two years of heavy usage though, not really a manufacturing fault.
  • THFourteen 20 Jun 2012 16:33:03 54,987 posts
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    PhoenixFlames wrote:it's the most well-designed laptop
    wellest-designedest
    most welled-designest
    mostly well-designded

    erm...

    dunno how to fix it but it doesnt sound right!
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