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  • Mike_Hunt 16 Jul 2010 12:26:12 23,524 posts
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    Thanks guys, we've offer our max, which is still a fair price and isn't more than it's with in my opinion. We can't offer more because we simply can't get the funds due to Andrea's salary carrying little weight whilst she's on mat leave.

    We're going to have to move into rented now, or risk losing our buyers. :(

    [MH]
  • Densil 16 Jul 2010 12:42:47 322 posts
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    Mike_Hunt wrote:We're going to have to move into rented now, or risk losing our buyers. :(
    This is not a bad situation to be in to be honest, ok you'll lose a few K in rent (but you'd have been paying a mortgage anyway so not really) and it gives you the chance to find the best house without the stress of being in a chain.
  • otto Moderator 16 Jul 2010 13:37:31 49,322 posts
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    Agreed. We did the same thing (sold, moved into rented, cash in pocket ready to buy when the right property came along). To be honest, apart from the hassle and expense of moving, it's probably the best thing because you will be chain-free buyers who can afford to sit and wait for prices to fall further (which they look likely to do).
  • otto Moderator 16 Jul 2010 16:15:36 49,322 posts
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    Ooh ooh in other news we just exchanged! Yay /won't be homeless
  • mrpon 16 Jul 2010 16:21:58 37,367 posts
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    \o/ Congrats.
  • otto Moderator 16 Jul 2010 16:25:44 49,322 posts
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    Congrats seems like the wrong thing to say to someone who's just spent such an outrageous amount of money but thanks, I think. :D
  • mrpon 16 Jul 2010 16:28:16 37,367 posts
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    Commiserations? ;) I'm happy to never speak to an estate agent again to be honest.
  • otto Moderator 16 Jul 2010 16:31:02 49,322 posts
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    Yeah, I kind of feel as if I'm chaining myself to the oars again. Oh well. Twenty years and it will be paid off. I'll only be a mere 61. :p
  • Salaman 16 Jul 2010 18:09:59 24,162 posts
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    otto wrote:
    Yeah, I kind of feel as if I'm chaining myself to the oars again.

    Oh hark at the poor Eurocrat. :-)

    Congrats on the new place.
  • Mike_Hunt 16 Jul 2010 21:06:45 23,524 posts
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    Well it appears our new offer is being considered and we should have a response by monday (it's complicated by the fact it's owned by a pension fund and all three trustees must agree to sell). They appear reluctant to take any offers, but are considering ours because of our good position. They've also increased the price of the property on the web by £25k to give them room to negotiate should a similar situation arise again.

    We will see. Either way, we're going to pay what we can afford and that's it. There's no way we can increase our previous offer.

    Anyway, congrats otto! Enjoy your new home.

    [MH]
  • Mike_Hunt 19 Jul 2010 22:11:33 23,524 posts
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    SOLD! To the man with the dodgy username!

    It took some wrangling but in the end we managed to get it in the end. It was the most we wanted to pay, but given that they were after another £25-50k more I think we did ok.

    Phew!

    [MH]
  • chopsen 19 Jul 2010 22:17:17 21,958 posts
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    Well done! Got the house you wanted and got the price you could afford.

    I hate selling and buying houses because of all this fannying about. There must be a better way...
  • otto Moderator 19 Jul 2010 22:28:03 49,322 posts
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    Ah, brilliant! Well done you! That's very good news. Just goes to show, he was taking the piss, and you weren't, in those situations the person not taking the piss usually wins!

    Today I transferred my entire life's savings to a lawyer, so she could add it to a shitload of money I've borrowed off a bank and give it to some strangers in return for a pile of bricks and a key which she'll give me on Friday. Yay! :D
  • Dougs 19 Jul 2010 22:28:51 100,415 posts
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    \o/ Good news all round, well done Mike and otto.
  • mrpon 20 Jul 2010 05:34:58 37,367 posts
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    Good work Mike.
  • RichDC 14 May 2011 13:37:03 9,177 posts
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    Heh, I said I'd be bumping this thread soon. In the current market how much should I realistically be able to negotiate down? I've spoken to friends/family and they all reckon about 10% is the average. My broker reckons I should easily be able to afford £180k so I guess that means I should be looking at the £200k mark? Am I kidding myself, or do sellers always mark prices up well in the knowledge that they will never sell for that?
  • mrpon 14 May 2011 13:46:35 37,367 posts
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    Can't speak for everyone, but yes I've sold properties for less than my asking price and yes I've set my asking price higher than what I actually wanted to get. If only everyone would follow this unwritten rule ;)

    Percentages vary across the board dependent on lots of factors, how long its been on the market is a good one.

    Good luck.
  • oldskooldeano 14 May 2011 14:33:27 3,496 posts
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    Having been a buyer and a seller, and putting my own house on the market in the next week or so, I can tell you my own experiences.

    As a seller I set my price at the upper end of the what the estate agents say I can get for it. I don't overprice it, but obviously I want as much as I can get, or more importantly, what the market says it is worth. So a buyer comes in with a a low offer, and 10% less than the asking price is in my opinion massively low. I'd tell that buyer to go away and think again. In fact, I'd say be realistic or go somewhere else.

    As a buyer I think you need to heed what other people have said in this thread before. Buying a property is an emotive thing, you are buying a home, somewhere you intend to spend many years of your life, have a family etc. It's hard to put a value on such things and harder to say how to get a 'bargain' on it. If you see something you like, something you really want, then you offer what you can, because properties exist on the market for that moment. Piss off a seller by trying to be clever and you risk not getting that home you want. Having said that, if you are patient and can wait, then another one will always come along, and it may even be better.

    Good Luck!
  • Deleted user 14 May 2011 15:10:14
    I've had an offer accepted on a property recently that was 29% lower than the asking price. Since we bought our first house, I've had seven offers on places accepted, all of which were over 10% less than the property was up for.

    It's especially like that at the moment. The Estate Agents are trying to keep the prices artificially high, but the property market isnt moving. Case in point, one near me has just gone up for £240k. The house next to it went for £212k last year, and was in better condition. The house two doors down...£206k...only three months ago, and again in better condition. According to the owners they were happy to put up for £215k but the Estage Agent advised them to go much higher as they were confident they could get more and 'you never know. Get an out of towner, or someone that doesn't use the internet to check prices, and you can really rip them'.

    So I wouldn't even take 10% as the rule. Essentially you do what Mike_Hunt did above last year. You offer what you think it's worth and no more. (Don't do that first though, obviously). Worth using Zoopla to check what neighbours houses might have sold for recently as well, to give you an idea as to whether you or they are taking the piss.
  • RichDC 21 Jun 2011 13:18:01 9,177 posts
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    Just made an offer on a place. Very excited!
  • RichDC 22 Jun 2011 23:50:56 9,177 posts
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    Offer accepted! Even more excited now! Though I know there's still potentially a long way to go and lots that go wrong. Still: WOO!!
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