Aargh, wrote:It's perfectly possible to know something is a placebo and it still work. |
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FWB wrote:
The headlines of reports have been provided but if your under the impression this coubtsbas research then my friend you're way off.
serious analysis of any subject.
You've done it again..gif)
There's absolutely no point in really engaging. The research has been provided in this thread, but if someone doesn't want to accept science as the foundation of our knowledge, there is no scientific evidence one can produce to convince them. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. The latter, not the former, has been presented here.
But as I said, whatever makes you happy..gif)
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FWB 56,369 posts
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Registered 20 years agoSo you dispute the reports concerning the research?
BTW, my partner is a doctor. I'm relatively clued up on this field (though no researcher myself), as she's constantly having to deal with quacks and I get to hear about it. There is no evidence for homeopathy working. None. The placebo effect on the other hand...
Enjoy...
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/45/4502.htm
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Eating pies and getting blotto are more effective than homeopathy. -
DFawkes 32,785 posts
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Registered 16 years agomalloc wrote:
I saw a show recently about a few groups studying placebos. In their tests, 64% of people felt the placebos they were knowingly taking still helped. I did find that quite surprising. One of the women even tried to stay on the sugar pills after the trial, but obviously they can't really give prescriptions for that because they aren't medication.
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FWB wrote:
I'm disputing any research having been presented in this thread.
So you dispute the reports concerning the research?
BTW, my partner is a doctor. I'm relatively clued up on this field (though no researcher myself), as she's constantly having to deal with quacks and I get to hear about it. There is no evidence for homeopathy working. None. The placebo effect on the other hand...
Enjoy...
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/45/4502.htm
Just out of interest have you read that report? -
FWB 56,369 posts
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Registered 20 years agoGuess you didn't read the thread then.
Yep. Have you?
I'll even spell if out for you...
154. We welcome the Government's acknowledgement that there is no credible evidence of efficacy for homeopathy, which is an evidence-based view. However, the Government's view has not translated into evidence-based policies.
As for whether it should be encouraged...
33. By providing homeopathy on the NHS and allowing MHRA licensing of products which subsequently appear on pharmacy shelves, the Government runs the risk of endorsing homeopathy as an efficacious system of medicine. To maintain patient trust, choice and safety, the Government should not endorse the use of placebo treatments, including homeopathy. Homeopathy should not be funded on the NHS and the MHRA should stop licensing homeopathic products. (Paragraph 157)
Just in case you struggled with that..gif)
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No. I shall. -
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Registered 18 years agoFWB wrote:
Why do all UFO photographs look blurry so you can't tell what it is?
if it was something it would be part of "medicine" and not be called "alternative".
Because if you could tell what it was it wouldn't be a UFO. It'd be an... FO.
Or my favourite:
- Let's take the shortcut!
- Is it dangerous?
- Of course it's dangerous! If it wasn't dangerous it wouldn't be a shortcut. It'd be the way! -
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X201 22,150 posts
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Registered 16 years agoYou can never have too much Homeopathic Vodka*
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZO9J7dDLU4
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Registered 20 years agohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjWqQPWmsY
The SpaceX test launch from the other week filmed from the air.
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Registered 20 years agoThat irritates me about neuroscientists discussing consciousness. According to Descartes, I can't even prove that anyone else is conscious, though of course I assume that everyone is since they're similar enough to me. To me, consciousness doesn't depend on being able to remember stuff, or identify myself in a mirror or any of that junk, it's simply the fact I experience stuff that happens to me in real time (except when I'm asleep). It's been shown by brain scanning that our subconscious brain decides what to do next before our conscious brain is aware of it, and can even start to move our muscles first.
I wonder if it's a side-effect of our self-preservation instinct. Evolve something that makes us think of ourselves as worth protecting. But that tends to suggest that everything down to the smallest animal and even some plants are conscious, which seems unlikely. -
I'm too afraid to read the article. I don't want to know. -
mal 29,326 posts
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Registered 20 years agoTo be fair, the article lost me basically at the headline. -
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Registered 13 years agoProf Colin Pillinger has died
I remember avidly following the Beagle 2 mission when it was getting ready to launch and being really impressed by how a man like him dreamed of realising a project without the huge amounts of money other space agencies had. RIP. -
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Registered 15 years agoSorry to hear the news of Prof. Pillinger, he always seem so enthused about what he did. We need more like him. -
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RunningMan 3,098 posts
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Registered 15 years agoGamma Ray burst detected in andromeda. As luck would have it LIGO is off-line...
Boo false alaram.
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Fake_Blood 11,093 posts
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Registered 12 years agoTime to wrap genitals in aluminium foil.
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Registered 20 years agoNothing about Google 's self driving car reveal? -
RunningMan 3,098 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThey look weird, but I'd like the idea of ordering one to pick me up from the pub. -
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"Google,find closest kebab shop"
They look weird, but I'd like the idea of ordering one to pick me up from the pub. -
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Registered 20 years agoI really wish they'd stop using that flipping annoying music in their videos
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I have no problem with the tech, I love it, I just think it's sad that they feel the need to hide it behind a stupid cutesy face.
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