Random science stories that don't warrant their own threads thread Page 26

  • Deleted user 11 April 2014 18:51:31
    Aargh, wrote:
    malloc wrote:
    I'm well aware of the placebo and nocebo principle, but thanks for that. To be clear I don't believe it was a placebo, but don't care as it worked.
    It's not entirely clear from this that you know what a placebo is. If you really had believed it did nothing then you wouldn't have seen the placebo effect.
    It's perfectly possible to know something is a placebo and it still work.
  • Deleted user 11 April 2014 18:54:55
    FWB wrote:
    serious analysis of any subject.
    You've done it again. :)

    There's absolutely no point in really engaging. The research has been provided in this thread, but if someone doesn't want to accept science as the foundation of our knowledge, there is no scientific evidence one can produce to convince them. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. The latter, not the former, has been presented here.

    But as I said, whatever makes you happy. :)
    The headlines of reports have been provided but if your under the impression this coubtsbas research then my friend you're way off.
  • FWB 11 Apr 2014 18:59:05 56,369 posts
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    So you dispute the reports concerning the research?

    BTW, my partner is a doctor. I'm relatively clued up on this field (though no researcher myself), as she's constantly having to deal with quacks and I get to hear about it. There is no evidence for homeopathy working. None. The placebo effect on the other hand...

    Enjoy...

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/45/4502.htm

    Edited by FWB at 19:04:00 11-04-2014
  • Deleted user 11 April 2014 19:05:05
    Eating pies and getting blotto are more effective than homeopathy.
  • DFawkes 11 Apr 2014 19:15:03 32,785 posts
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    malloc wrote:
    It's perfectly possible to know something is a placebo and it still work.
    I saw a show recently about a few groups studying placebos. In their tests, 64% of people felt the placebos they were knowingly taking still helped. I did find that quite surprising. One of the women even tried to stay on the sugar pills after the trial, but obviously they can't really give prescriptions for that because they aren't medication.
  • Deleted user 11 April 2014 19:21:27
    FWB wrote:
    So you dispute the reports concerning the research?

    BTW, my partner is a doctor. I'm relatively clued up on this field (though no researcher myself), as she's constantly having to deal with quacks and I get to hear about it. There is no evidence for homeopathy working. None. The placebo effect on the other hand...

    Enjoy...

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/45/4502.htm
    I'm disputing any research having been presented in this thread.

    Just out of interest have you read that report?
  • FWB 11 Apr 2014 19:23:24 56,369 posts
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    Guess you didn't read the thread then.

    Yep. Have you?

    I'll even spell if out for you...

    154. We welcome the Government's acknowledgement that there is no credible evidence of efficacy for homeopathy, which is an evidence-based view. However, the Government's view has not translated into evidence-based policies.
    As for whether it should be encouraged...

    33. By providing homeopathy on the NHS and allowing MHRA licensing of products which subsequently appear on pharmacy shelves, the Government runs the risk of endorsing homeopathy as an efficacious system of medicine. To maintain patient trust, choice and safety, the Government should not endorse the use of placebo treatments, including homeopathy. Homeopathy should not be funded on the NHS and the MHRA should stop licensing homeopathic products. (Paragraph 157)
    Just in case you struggled with that. :)

    Edited by FWB at 19:31:20 11-04-2014
  • Deleted user 11 April 2014 19:49:07
    No. I shall.
  • L0cky 11 Apr 2014 23:50:53 2,080 posts
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    FWB wrote:
    if it was something it would be part of "medicine" and not be called "alternative".
    Why do all UFO photographs look blurry so you can't tell what it is?
    Because if you could tell what it was it wouldn't be a UFO. It'd be an... FO.

    Or my favourite:

    - Let's take the shortcut!
    - Is it dangerous?
    - Of course it's dangerous! If it wasn't dangerous it wouldn't be a shortcut. It'd be the way!
  • BillMurray 12 Apr 2014 08:09:18 9,736 posts
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  • X201 12 Apr 2014 09:00:04 22,150 posts
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    You can never have too much Homeopathic Vodka*

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZO9J7dDLU4



    *water poisoning excepted.
  • mal 23 Apr 2014 16:49:49 29,326 posts
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjWqQPWmsY

    The SpaceX test launch from the other week filmed from the air.

    Edited by mal at 16:50:32 23-04-2014
  • FWB 24 Apr 2014 16:25:45 56,369 posts
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    Consciousness may be a state of matter.
  • mal 24 Apr 2014 18:10:13 29,326 posts
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    That irritates me about neuroscientists discussing consciousness. According to Descartes, I can't even prove that anyone else is conscious, though of course I assume that everyone is since they're similar enough to me. To me, consciousness doesn't depend on being able to remember stuff, or identify myself in a mirror or any of that junk, it's simply the fact I experience stuff that happens to me in real time (except when I'm asleep). It's been shown by brain scanning that our subconscious brain decides what to do next before our conscious brain is aware of it, and can even start to move our muscles first.

    I wonder if it's a side-effect of our self-preservation instinct. Evolve something that makes us think of ourselves as worth protecting. But that tends to suggest that everything down to the smallest animal and even some plants are conscious, which seems unlikely.
  • Deleted user 24 April 2014 19:27:02
    I'm too afraid to read the article. I don't want to know.
  • mal 24 Apr 2014 20:03:55 29,326 posts
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    To be fair, the article lost me basically at the headline.
  • senso-ji 8 May 2014 09:46:05 10,271 posts
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    Prof Colin Pillinger has died

    I remember avidly following the Beagle 2 mission when it was getting ready to launch and being really impressed by how a man like him dreamed of realising a project without the huge amounts of money other space agencies had. RIP.
  • Fab4 8 May 2014 09:50:00 8,924 posts
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    Sorry to hear the news of Prof. Pillinger, he always seem so enthused about what he did. We need more like him.
  • Deleted user 8 May 2014 10:00:28
    Shame. Rather liked him.
  • RunningMan 28 May 2014 09:24:36 3,098 posts
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    Gamma Ray burst detected in andromeda. As luck would have it LIGO is off-line...

    Boo false alaram.

    Edited by RunningMan at 10:19:44 28-05-2014
  • Fake_Blood 28 May 2014 09:56:07 11,093 posts
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    Time to wrap genitals in aluminium foil.
    Again.
  • MrWorf 28 May 2014 10:19:01 64,187 posts
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    Nothing about Google 's self driving car reveal?
  • RunningMan 28 May 2014 10:20:27 3,098 posts
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    They look weird, but I'd like the idea of ordering one to pick me up from the pub.
  • DaM 28 May 2014 11:06:32 17,729 posts
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    RunningMan wrote:
    They look weird, but I'd like the idea of ordering one to pick me up from the pub.
    "Google,find closest kebab shop"
  • MrWorf 28 May 2014 11:18:38 64,187 posts
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    I really wish they'd stop using that flipping annoying music in their videos

  • Psychotext 28 May 2014 11:24:52 70,652 posts
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    Yay, anthropomorphic personification in cars. =/
  • MrWorf 28 May 2014 13:37:29 64,187 posts
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    I'm still rather excited about the potential though
  • Psychotext 28 May 2014 13:42:25 70,652 posts
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    I have no problem with the tech, I love it, I just think it's sad that they feel the need to hide it behind a stupid cutesy face.
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